Tumakuru: Untouchability still practised - Dalit MP denied entry into hamlet

Tue, Sep 17 2019 04:55:31 PM

Daijiworld Media Network - Tumakuru (SP)

Tumakuru, Sep 17: A Narayanaswamy, former minister for social welfare and Chitradurga MP, was denied entry into Pemmanahalli Gollarahatti hamlet because he happens to be a dalit. This shameful incident happened on Monday September 16. Pemmanahalli Gollarahatti is situated in Pavagada taluk of Tumakuru district.

Narayanaswamy had accompanied a team of officials from Biocon Ltd Bengaluru and Narayana Hrudayalaya to Pavagada town. The officials and the MP inspected dilapidated school buildings and Rangasamudra school in Pavagada before proceeding to Pemmanahalli Gollarahatti. At the entry to the hamlet, locals, Chikkayya, Nagaraju, Doddayya and some other youngsters and women stopped Narayanaswamy and said that people belonging to Madiga community cannot enter the area.

A Narayanaswamy

The MP peacefully spoke to the villagers and tried to convince them to let go of this evil practice. But the people were stubborn. They put forth demand for drinking water and housing facility in their hamlet but did not allow him to enter the hamlet. Narayanaswamy told the people that 80 percent of the Golla community members had voted for him and that he is committed to improve their standard of living. The MP, who waited there for 45 minutes, had to return. The police who were present, seemed to be helpless. Some BJP leaders tried to drive home the point that untouchability is not permissible but the people of the hamlet remained adamant.

Chinnayya, a local, said that the practice of not allowing Harijans to enter the hamlet has been existent since hundreds of years.

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Rayna, Bangalore
Thu, Sep 19 2019
Wow.. u r not getting my point, many people from Mangalore are commenting here... their knowledge may be limited.. as I said if u are not aware of something it does not mean it doesnt exist.. how can u say that em lying? In that case even I can say the same thing about u but thats not the point.. anyways I'll halt my discussion here.. even u people are saying so much about Hinduism but yes if something is true that it is true no matter people agree or not..

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Rayna, Bangalore
Wed, Sep 18 2019
Thanks for the info, it's nice to see that u accept everyone.. that's really nice of you... But how can u say info that I have is wrong especially the poster in Leuven I have seen that myself.. if u have no information about something it may not mean that it doesn't exist... Sure I will do my research and verify, em not a fool to believe in WhatsApp message, but even u should do ur home work... em strictly against this differences.. and also told I have a lot of respect towards any religion,it's just the people and their mindset is corrupt.. and about Kerala, my dear friend in general yes they are United because they speak same language they all celebrate Onam unlike us in Mangalore we have people of 3 different religion speak 3 different language., but my source is genuine she is Malayali Christian herself .. please read some article on caste system in Kerala not only hindus even Christian have category.. as I told em elated that in Mangalore Christianity is considered as one unlike as us Hindus..

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David Pais, Mangalore
Wed, Sep 18 2019
u should verify from multiple sourcs. not from 1 source.

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Justin Lobo, Bangalore
Wed, Sep 18 2019
Many commentators are saying there are no christian dalit seprate places of worship and they are allowed in every Churches.
But you are commenting that one she a christian has told you dalits are not allowed to enter in the chueches.
I am not trusting your comment.
That one christian she is your own fabricatrion.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/ Mumbai
Wed, Sep 18 2019
Very sad that untouchability is not only practised, promoted but no action is taken on promoters of untouchability.
We are going 2 steps forward and 4 steps backwards.
Mahatma Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln and Nelson Mandela sacrificed their lives to remove such social evils. We regard them but still follow what they fought against.
But solace is natures has its own mechanism to regulate and balance. If 1 door is closed many more doors will open in this universe.

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Justin Lobo, Bangalore
Wed, Sep 18 2019
To all those do believe in Lord Jesus Christ and embraced Christianity.
1) Keep your name as it is. - No problem.
2) You can take Baptism and take Holy communion - - No problem.
3) Keep your Caste, Rai, Brahmin, Dalit etc., etc.. - No problem.
4) Take your quota and reservations in your caste. - No problem.
5) In the senses you are a Hindu or a Muslim - No problem.
However you are practising the faith as preached by Jesus Christ the Holy One.
Your Jobs secure, your caste secure and everything is secure.
But you are a Christian.
Hallelujah, Praise God.

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Shan, Udupi
Wed, Sep 18 2019
Shame on Indian system. To play politics they will forget equality, vote for Hindus, vokkaligas,brahmins,muslims,krona,c Christian's etc. When in politics if they use any caste or creeds they must ban such people or punish them by penalty or jail.

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vishnu bhat, bangalore
Wed, Sep 18 2019
continue to vote for the BJP that promotes casteism and religious bigotry. India will then be great. Poor MP- change your party, sir.

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Jossey Saldanha, Atlanta
Wed, Sep 18 2019
Narendra Modi has to take some Action ...

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Candle Light, Mangalore / Dubai
Wed, Sep 18 2019
Rayna, Bangalore,
Please correct the wrong information you have. Each and Everyone is allowed to the Church, welcomed inside the Church. There is no Dalit Christian. Just Christians and all are welcome. Jesus loves everyone. No one has to be converted to come to Church, it's a place if worship. Church is for all.

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David Pais, Mangalore
Wed, Sep 18 2019
those who have taken baptism r 1nly given holy communion. 2 take holy communion 1 should b baptized. entering da church ⛪ praying & worshipping da almighty Lord God has no barrier 🚧 & nobody says no 2 anybody. may b in da near future Mohan bagawat, faku & daaku may enter da church 2 pray & worship da almighty Lord God.

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David Pais, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
if at all caste system is abolished gujju's will b a1, shah's will b a2 , raajanatha will a3 rajputh's will b a4 & so on... Totally in india caste system cannot b abolished becoz brahma wanted head creation & from feet creation.

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SmR, Karkala
Tue, Sep 17 2019
If the reformer and poet Basava were alive today, we would call him an activist, or even a radical. Back in the twelfth century, when he spearheaded a movement in Karnataka, this is how he described the plethora of demanding gods who keep common people in their thrall:

Certain gods
always stand watch
at the doors of people.
Some will not go if you ask them to go.
Worse than dogs, some others.
What can they give,
these gods,
who live off the charity of people
O lord of the meeting rivers? — Speaking of Siva

Basava took his critique of the establishment to its logical end. Building on reason, on the dynamic, on the opposition to man-made ritual, priesthood, temples and their gods, Basava issued the most powerful challenge: all men are equal, regardless of caste; and all women are equal to men. When King Bijjala questioned him about the radical inter-caste marriage planned by Basava’s colleagues in the movement, he asked the king, “Are we not all born of the same source, a woman’s womb? No man ever came out of his mother’s ears.”

Basava did not merely mouth platitudes against caste oppression. Just as he ate with the lower castes and welcomed them into his movement, he insinuated himself into the lineage of those considered inferior by the orthodox. Basava may have been born a Brahmin; but he shed the sacred thread, the agrahara culture of the Brahmins, the priests and temple culture. He became a child of butchers, water-carriers, fodder-gatherers. He became a child of the lower castes, of the lowest “untouchables”. This is how he made himself human.

“The caste differences between the privileged and the underprivileged is born out of “religion” whereas the difference between the poor and the rich is born out of labour.”

Basava, Kalburgi. Neither was an atheist; but both believed in, and practiced, a radical form of religion. Basava’s end in exile is shrouded in mystery. Kalburgi’s murder remains an ongoing “case”.

Jai Hind

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Prem Prasad, Bangalore
Wed, Sep 18 2019
"Basava, Kalburgi. Neither was an atheist; but both believed in, and practiced, a radical form of religion."- your quote)
How about Shia and Sunny's killings in the name of Allah ho Akbar.

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James, Belman
Tue, Sep 17 2019
MP says 80% people voted for him. People voted just to BJP blindly on the grounds of religion and Modi wave. These candidates were not counted at all

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ad, mangaluru
Tue, Sep 17 2019
The are the oppressed people of India by the mainstream society. and Our Prime minister talks about New India for whom ?

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Ganesh, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
In Mangalore, local Tuluvas are middle class,some are off course rich but em telling in general, but people who have escaped from a particular state are very rich, Ido not have an clear idea how is it possible??? Is it because they say they belong to high caste and they have fair complexion?? Till recently we local were not allowed inside their temple, they speak in different language then us Tuluvas ,,, usually people who come from outside should integrate with locals to have Harmony in society but here it's vice versa.. they have their hospitals, education institute, retail, etc... No doubt they are very clever and active.. but I am wondering how?? I think we in Mangalore are too scared to confront or oppose bullying.. Mr. Rampa was taken as a joke because he was from lower caste but he was a hotelier

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Felix Dsouza, Shirva, Bahrain.
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Because of this caste system our president stuck by 26 year old plane on his tour, because low castes all get old , upper caste all new like PM ,
New plane
This is my India shining, What is the use of having broad inches chest
No guts to abolish caste system.

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AMAR NATHAL, MANGALORE
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Shah says our soldiers were beheaded and insulted, women were unsafe, youth were disillusioned, people were protesting. There were protests by Anna Hazare and Ramdev.
So, he openly expresses doubt about Democracy. His ideas are replica of Hitler's mentality.
His goal is to bring back caste system, and many MPs and MLAs support silently.
Many Voters do too.

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R kumar, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
also he has full of Nazi bhkthas ,And also number of Goebbels like bhakthas.

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Jesta, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
It's all inter related, reservation seems unfair but why do we have reservations it's because of this caste system.. people want caste system to continue but reservation to be abolished.. because of this caste system so many people are getting killed in the name of honour killing.. In India there is discrimination in each and everything. Color, caste, religion, economic stature, language, food,.. temples feed upper caste people in a separate room they have tables and chairs to sit .. rest sit in floor..
It's hard to digest, u may be a scholar but when u come to ur home town this is the sight and experience u have to go through..
Moreover caste were based on profession but now no one is going through the profession based on their caste for example if am a astronaut which caste will i be placed in? This caste system looks baseless, why should some one be insulted in this manner.. people who think they are Superior and they should be given special status then go and live in a different planet than creating nuisance here
Btw dear MP do not work for these garbage mind set people let them rot in hell

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Santan Mascarenhas, Kinnigoli/Mumbai
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Narayanaswamy, do not worry. Our president and his wife were denied admission into Jagannath temple in Puri, Orissa in May 2018. As long as caste system is there, it will continue. Koraga, dikka and maar are the names you are called. In Mangalore, one Shetty doctor told a dark skinned man "Aul pod kullulambe".

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MM, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Nothing wrong in that when religious scriptures itself command to practice Castiesm. A true follower of the book either adhere it or quit Hinduism.

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Jitendra K, Mijar/ Leicester, UK
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Good that those books, don't provoke to take up Jihad ....

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Hind, India
Tue, Sep 17 2019
It's very common in India and also in mangalore, the college were i studied was from a well dominated caste people and the students studying there from the same caste would differentiate and treat other caste students very badly....
have seen this differentiation from a very highly educated and recognized persons of the society.

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Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi
Tue, Sep 17 2019
@ narayanaswamy,
Come to the church, You can come at any time and worship God the almighty at any of your known languages.
No Compulsions like Arabic and Sanskrit.
You can become priest also if God calls you.
Jesus loves you and embraces you.
Praise God and His name be Glorified. Amen and Amen.

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shahnawaz kukkikatte, udupi/Dubai
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Mr Rodrigues

Who is the GOd according to you to be glorified??

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Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Certainly the Almighty God knower of all languages including Sanskrit and Arabic not limited to place time and space.

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Rohith, Bangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Then why they still called Dalit Christians.. ?

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Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi
Tue, Sep 17 2019
When a non-Christian embraces Jesus Christ, he will be a Christian. There will be no Dalit or Lalit. He is called as a Christian. Praise the Lord.

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Rayna, Bangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
I would want to believe you, and also I have a lot of respect towards Christianity but I do not think thats the case..a dalit person who gets converted is known as Dalit Christian..I have heard this from my friend in Kerala and Andra too.. they aren't allowed inside the church.. even I had a lot of respect for Christianity but after I heard this em disappointed.. I think we Indians are so, we need to be considered Superior among ourselves.. Please visit leuven it's in Belgium..there are poster by the name Adhivasi Christians in India.😔 Hope this s not the case in Mangalore

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Cynthia, Kirem
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Yes Rayna... You are right... Sadly... they are called as Dalit Christians... I heard from many, even Mangalore there are few dalits converted long back are still kept away from other so called Christians... 😢😢

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Rita, Germany
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Alphons Rodrigues,Udipi,what nonsense you are talking.How he can be a christian only by embrassing Jesus christ.?He should be in the first place have his conversion by Baptism.without Baptism is noone can be called christian in any other religions too (Other evengelist or other)Regarding MP Dalit noone can help here so long in peoples mind no changes have taken place.What is the use of education ,democracy,People have same mindset as before.unfortunately.

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Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi
Tue, Sep 17 2019
I am not adhering to rumours and false news of whats-app of Nagpur.
Certainly there are no restrictions in any of the states.
Keralites are very specific to break religious differences among human beings.
So do not listen to rumours but to the truth.
Truth comes after verification's.
Every Dalit or non-Dalit has no obstacles to enter into the church and pray or worship whatsoever.

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Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi
Tue, Sep 17 2019
@Rita, Germany,
Anybody can believe in Jesus Christ and embrace Christianity.
However to take Holy Communion he must believe and baptise.
No non-Christians are hindered to come and pray inside the Church.
In my church I do not know many people attending mass and prayer who they are ?

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R kumar, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Abolish the cast system , if not at least Brahminism!

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Mohan Prabhu, Mangalore (Kankanady)/Ottawa, Canada
Wed, Sep 18 2019
Caste system is only in India. All Indians living in other countries have only one caste; To natives, they are all "Pakis"

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Dsouza, Mudarangadi/udupi
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Because of this untouchability, reservations, strengthening etc...most of educated peoples become unemployeed, all are kept out from appoinments because of prioirities to these untouchables, reservation apoinments do not work hard because of head weight and they are not fully qualified for the positions... We only draging our countries developments towards desaster...

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Chowkidar Chor Hai!, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
And the want to build Ram mandir?

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David Pais, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
1 nation 1 language as daaku says. 1 nation 1 caste. 1nly brahmins or dalits. no Shetty, gowda, g.s.b., naika, poojary, rao, shivalli, bhandary, rai. 1nly brahmins or dalits. so dat no blame game. don't blame brhama 4 creating brahmins from da head, shoodras from da feet.

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Jitendra K, Mijar/ Leicester, UK
Tue, Sep 17 2019
I do come across Orthodox, Protestants, Anglicans, Calvinist, Lutherans, Methodists many more sects all around Europe ....

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David Pais, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
dees r denominations not da castes nor da sects.

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Rayna, Bangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
It's not clear to me how can it be 1 caste and then say Brahmins and Dalit? Isn't it 2 in that case

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David Pais, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
1nly 1 caste either brahmin or dalit. either 1 of da caste. later v will 4get da word caste. further all bhaktas will 4get brahma, vishnu maheshwara. & remember 1nly 1 chaiwala, chaiwala.....

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Jesta, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Our PM is no god😂😂 even if he has bhakts... in fact there are some people who were arguing that Modi won't take away reservation because he is not from high caste. .. off course those were north Indians .. obviously Amit shah can be their god because Gujju Jains think they are above mankind😂😂😂

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Rayna, Bangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
Oh ok agreed

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David Pais, Mangalore
Tue, Sep 17 2019
daaku said he has converted to hinduism & he is no more a jain. y conversions from jain 2 hinduism?????????

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Mohan Prabhu, Mangalore (Kankanady)/Ottawa, Canada
Tue, Sep 17 2019
SHAMELESS HUMBUGS !

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