Mangaluru: Razing church buildings - Demolishing more than just a structure


By William Pais

Mangaluru, Sep 28: Any historical building in whichever place and time it is built reflects on the cultural richness of people of the place. This is a common argument. If one applies the logic of this argument to Konkani speaking Catholics, may not be more than hundred years old and their arrival to the region is fairly recent. But the truth is Mangalureans migrated from Goa around four hundred and fifty years ago.

In India, and more so elsewhere, cultural history of people is linked to religion. How many churches that are old are remaining in Mangaluru and Udupi dioceses? The ones we had, have been unilaterally demolished without a scant regard for historical sentiments, to make place for modern church structures devoid of aesthetics. The old churches need to be maintained for reasons that go beyond religious. For they physically document the sacrifice, architecture of the time, unwavering faith of people who built them.




Some of the churches demolished in Mangaluru diocese


Scheduled to be demolished - St Antony’s Church, Allipade

The justification for razing church buildings is peculiar to the Mangaluru diocese as each parish is competing to build a new church. A person, in most of the cases, parish priest, with a scant regard for history and heritage, coupled with people who sing his paeans, decide that an old church building should be razed and a new one erected. A plan is drawn that has everything grand and flurry of activity follows to gather funds. The first target is the Gulf where you would find a right emotional concoction of language, faith and love for native place. This coupled with the treasure of blessings promised by the person visiting to seek donations, clicks the deal, without seeing the merits of the project envisaged. As a result, flow of donations to build a modern church starts without even the person looking at the basic plan of the church to which he is donating.

Compare this scenario with the diocese of Goa where most of its churches are centuries old and are fit for service although at times the congregation spills out of its doors. Has the number of faithful not increased in Goa in the last 400-odd years that they never felt the need to raze the church to ground to make way for the new one? The fact is Goa gets its identity from the church heritage, is too obvious to understand. A historical edifice stands as the living example of a stage in human history and any efforts to erase it will only prove to be an effort of destroying our sense of identity. A mere look at the monument is enough to convince about the time in which it was built. A new church building does not give a historical perspective, thereby undermines identity of a community.

I come back to the question raised in this article as to why we need to keep the old church buildings. An old church is a testimony the sacrifice of our ancestors. The older the monument, stronger the sense of identity it provides to everything that inhabits its surroundings. Identity gives us strength in an ever-changing world. History and heritage are the prisms of seeing ourselves. An architectural creation is a strong element, providing a link between the past and the times we live and this link is essential for us and our future generations. Identity does not come cheap but carefully earned with cumulative human efforts over the ages. My concern does not stop at the demolition of old churches but extends to all structures that are testimony to the historical, spiritual and human evolution. I feel the same pain when an old temple is demolished as when I see a church being razed to the ground. I feel proud when I see around 400 years old Monte Mariano Church in Farangipet, that the Franciscan friars have retained in good condition. Perhaps this is the only structure which explicitly announces the antiquity of church in Mangaluru diocese.

There are many challenges to protect the heritage structures owned by private individuals but the secular heritage like churches, temples, parks, old streets, government heritage buildings belong to people. More so buildings like the old church buildings can easily be protected if a policy is evolved with regard to its protection. I have therefore suggested a heritage policy framing for Mangaluru diocese and Udupi diocese can also take inspiration from it.

Whenever I get the information of a church demolition, I collapse virtually, and feel a sense of helplessness. This time unfortunately it happens to be St Antony’s Church, Allipade, Bantwal, where I grew up. It was built eighty years back with architecture of the time, when church building was undergoing a rapid change. I heard the stories narrated to me by elders that people carried a stone when they came for mass. That most of the surroundings had houses that were thatched, despite which people of the time decided to build a strong and beautiful house of prayer. Harbouring these apprehensions, I run to the parish priest, and the parish council members, to make a case for saving a church. I go to the bishop, plead my case and tell him that I don’t have an agenda in crusading to save a church. He gives a patient hearing, agrees to my point of view and I return with a satisfaction deep inside that my crusade is paying off. As the church manual says bishop is the head of the local church where almost all the hierarchy ends. I rest assured something positive will happen. But more importantly, we have to rise to the need for importance of saving our heritage. The lame excuse that ‘nobody hears our opinion’ should be done away with. The case of hearing comes only when you say an opinion, so say an opinion, and if it reasons enough, it will prevail.

However, I am not against building new churches, but they be not built in the place by demolishing the old church. Am I against change for good? I am not. Demolishing an old edifice, does it herald a change? A big no. If a church cannot hold a swelling congregation (it is not likely) a new church may be built but in a different place. It is enough that we alter our surroundings in our private spaces, but public heritage like the church building should be left intact and maintained for future generation to let them know from where their identity stems from. Identity is the sole protector in times of crisis, it is an intangible asset we inherited from our ancestors, and are duty bound to pass it on to the future generation. 

(William Pais is the author of ‘The Land Called South Canara’ and the Director of Gallerie Orchid, Mangaluru)

  

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  • Preethi Martis, Udupi

    Wed, Oct 04 2017

    We can help some needing people instead Of spending on church buildings .

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  • VINOD, Manipal

    Tue, Oct 03 2017

    Every old time church is facing this situation. Its really sad that there is no emotions attached to the years of peoples passion and devotion who frequented the church. The memories are just brought to dust for a fancy looking prayer hall, not a heritage church filling you with warmth, devotion, serenity and peace. Few years back the Christ Church at Manipal had to go through the same fate to accommodate a bigger congregation. I had spent many hours in that church resolving my mind.. seeking for answers..talking to the unknown power in the silent beautiful church.
    I was shocked to hear the news of its demolition. Just few days before the demolition or while demolition was in progress I walked around the empty church trying to collect my memories... captured in my phone.. Is demolishing the old structure important to build a new one on it, cant we just extend the existing churches I wonder.

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  • Cliffy, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 05 2017

    I do agree with you Vinod. Most of the time new church is not the peoples need, it is need of the clergy. Any church older than 50 years needs to be built new. And plans should be made 10 years ahead, so that there is no financial burden to the poor faithful.

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  • Brian Nazareth, Koppa/Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 05 2017

    This may sound silly but as Mr William Pais has brought up this issue there are a few things which he has left out of his essay.
    1. What is the number of members accomodated in the new church buildings against the old.(normally it is built on the same piece of land.)
    2.Have the number of Sunday masses in the Church increased with the deemed increase of Catholic population
    3 Is there an independent Audit, Construction/Financial at the end of the project.
    This calls for a proper Survey and will of enlighten all, and finally i wonder why someone from the Vatican has not visited Mangalore on a study tour to learn how we do it here and bring down the St. Peters Basilica and the Sistine Chapel for a swanky new modern Church withe a Hall attached and yes dont forget a Commercial Complex.

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  • Lawrence, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 03 2017

    Please do not blame the clergy of any parish for demolition of old structures . These ideas of building new structures ( Church) is decided by the Parish committee and not by the priest .Finally , what the people want is their names on the new black & white marble to show their status and wealth .
    eg: Donated by Pinto family , Donated by Lobo family , Donated by D'Souza fly etc... etc and then try to make a name in their respective parish forgetting their background they came from.

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 03 2017

    Religion, today, is a big money spinning business without much accountability n the money ball is kept rolling by undertaking non stop activities in the name of improvement!

    Whereas the Pope has clearly instructed the clergy to maintain austerity n be frugal as much as possible!!

    As far as dollops of money comes in, these sort of old church demolitions n building of new concrete structures will go on in the name of development!

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  • DON, Udupi

    Tue, Oct 03 2017

    Ask demolition experts who demolished the churches whether old building was worth left standing?

    Churches in DK/ Udupi are weak over so many years and need to be reconstructed with strength by the clergy who got the blessings from their patron saints. One cannot compare churches at one place to other since our forefathers built these churches on their own and not by royal patronage of Europe.

    Some safe elements of historical significance of old church can be preserved for memory and incorporated into new one as done in Udyavar church

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  • Oneal D'Cunha, Abu Dhabi

    Mon, Oct 02 2017

    The article has kick started an interesting debate and the responses are quite a read. I fully agree that instead of rebuilding the churches it would have been better if they were restored. The example of Goa, Europe, other places of worships of other religions in India are valid. Instead of rebuilding churches the funds could have been used for newer parishes, in other locations if there was a justifiable need.

    However its unfair to point fingers at clergy alone as they are appointed to a parish for 5-7 years duration and get transferred at the end of every term, leaving behind everything. They are indeed Brahmacharis and nothing anyways goes to their families.

    If a parish priest focuses on people and maintains a low profile on construction, parishioners blame him that he is too passive. If he takes initiative then he is blamed again for being ambitious. The laity seems to be moving the goal post often, and don’t set expectation right.

    Every parish has a parish council who are either selected or nominated to represent each ward. The parish council members have a large say in the decision and are permanent members of the parish. Most cases the parish councils are the ones that initiate the projects.

    From my understanding the average costs of each church is between 4-8 crores. The cost might seem more or less, depending on ones net worth. That is also the average amount some pay for an apartment or a house in some cities in India, for a family of 2-3 members only.

    I believe the recent years construction spree would have slowed down and good sense now prevails. Lessons learnt and the write up in effect could be a big relief to a lot of clergy, who otherwise would have been under pressure to demonstrate their architectural skills, than pastoral.

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  • cyril mathias, udupi

    Mon, Oct 02 2017

    Earlier churches were built by poor and god fearing Christians who went hungry and sacrificed their livelihood for faith .Reconstructing churches has been a fashion nowadays which is not in the priority list of poor Christians. Educating the youth must be first,let there be free hostels for poor students sponsored by churches.Christ will bless those who help the poor.

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  • jacintha dcosta, Mangalore/Dublin Ireland

    Mon, Oct 02 2017

    I totally agree! Beautiful article! eye opener....

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  • Royston Rodrigues, Mumbai-Mangalore-Bangalore

    Sun, Oct 01 2017

    Firstly special thanks to the author for sparing time for this write-up. This write-up does carry a sense of constructive feedback & applicable in some scenarios. But seeing most of the inline comments of my fellow brothers & sisters, it seems to have opened up a discussion that can be considered to be influential in a negative way. Especially since it’s timed when few parishes have come forward seeking support from their fellow brothers & sisters in CHRIST, in their effort to renovate the CHURCH.
    Not to be biased by our prejudices, I just want to throw in a different perception. THE BIBLE, in physical form was the medium we were introduced to our FAITH by our ancestors. With the changing times, we now have BIBLE in our mobiles. But doesn't it continue to hold the same sanctity & holiness even if it’s accessed in e-Media form. Here the change has made THE WORD easily accessible. Just as how THE BIBLE in physical or in e-Media form continues to relive the same teachings of THE WORD, similarly the OLD or NEW (rebuilt) CHURCH can be cherished for its ancestral memories as it continues to be part of the same INSTITUTION. So a change may not always be viewed as an end to something.
    The author’s shared experience & what I've penned down are just 2 scenarios but shouldn't lead to any generalization. Each scenario is unique & I'm optimistic that my fellow parishioners & priests have sought it out well & also put in efforts to restore & judiciously use CHURCH funds before coming to a consensus to renovate. So let’s not divide ourselves by being judgmental of ourselves & others rather let’s be united in CHRIST least by prayers towards these appeal intentions, as we have 1 Supreme Judge, THE ALMIGHTY who governs every act & deed.
    Kindly keep the intentions @http://www.daijiworld.com/news/newsDisplay.aspx?newsID=473998 & other such intentions in prayers. May Wisdom prevail among us to figure out whether there is a genuine need to rebuild the CHURCH & let HIS WILL yield fruit.

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  • JEROME D SOUZA, BELA KASARGOD

    Mon, Oct 02 2017

    Ur article is really a valid one. Majority of us always oppose new things in life. For example we used to say, he could have given that money to poor parishioners instead of wasting like this --if a person spends a little more money for his wedding or his house or his children's birthdays etc. I say the truth, those say so, they never give one single paisa to anyone who is in need. If everyone thinks about poor when new projects are proposed, I ask, why is poverty not vanished.

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  • Ivar, Mangaluru

    Sun, Oct 01 2017

    Pray at home!

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  • Josephine, Mangalore

    Sat, Sep 30 2017

    Kudos to William Pais for spearheading the campaign against indiscriminate demolition of old Churches. The oft repeated sentiment in various comments to the article reflects the anguish people feel when beautiful old churches are replaced by ugly monstrosities .... If only the amount of money could be used in a true Christian manner to alleviate the suffering of the less fortunate in each parish, we would be bearing witness to Christ.

    Keep up the good work William!

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  • Irene McNeilly, Mangalore/Canada

    Sat, Sep 30 2017

    The wonderful comments by so many of your readers brings to my mind the prophetic words of our beloved 'Beneditto', Pope Benedict XV1, when, as Cardinal Ratzinger he wrote the 'must required reading' book entitled:" Faith and the Future", in 1971, published by: Ignatius Press. Therein Cardinal Ratzinger, in all his wisdom and prophetic insight has this to say about the Catholic Church of the future: From the crises of today the Church of tomorrow will emerge---a Church that has lost much. She will become small and will have to start afresh more or less from the beginning. She will no longer be able to inhabit many of the edifices she built in prosperity. As the number of her adherents diminish, so will she lose many of her social privileges. In contrast to an earlier age, she will be seen much more as a voluntary society, entered only by free decision.
    The Church will be a more spiritual Church, not presuming upon a political mandate, flirting as little with the Left as with the Right. It will be hard going for the Church, for the process of crystallization and clarification will cost her much valuable energy. It will make her poor and cause her to become the Church of the meek. The process will be all the more arduous, for sectarian narrow-mindedness as well as pompous self-will will have to be shed. But when the trial of this sifting is past, a great power will flow from a more spiritualized and simplified Church. Men in a totally planned world will find themselves unspeakably lonely. If they have completely lost sight of God, they will feel the whole horror of their poverty. Then they will discover the little flock of believers as something wholly new. They will discover it as a hope that is meant for them, an answer for which they have always been searching in secret.
    And so the Church is facing very hard times...but she will enjoy a fresh blossoming and be seen as man's home, where he will find life & hope beyond death. Irene McNeilly

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  • Dr Mohan Prabhu, LL.D, QC, Mangalore (Kankanady)/Ottawa, Canada

    Mon, Oct 02 2017

    Thank you Irene McNeilly for the beautiful reminder. Wish people with grand plans only listen to their senses.

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  • Dr Urban D'Souza, Professor & Head, Faculty of Medicine Malaysia, Udyavar/Malaysia

    Sat, Sep 30 2017

    This reminds me when my parishioners decided to renovate the St Francis Xavier Church Udyavar. The decision to demolish and renovate took more than 4 to 5 years as the parish council members had two different views. One group of the opinion to change the entrance of the church to face the highway- east, whereas from the very first church is facing west, whereas the other group firm on the same direction which the church is facing east. One Mr Patrick, gurkar of Piad C ward was firm on not changing the Altar which was constructed 100 years ago. Though the church was renovated, on the repeated pressure from other group led by Mr Patrick the 100 odd years altar at least remained the same. I do appreciate the efforts of Mr Patrick for being so thoughtful at least to preserve the altar though a magnificient structure of the church was newly built.
    Similarly, let us teach our children as well to preserve their ancestral hard work in every way as a legacy of our generation need to be kept alive so also supporting our elders in their old age.

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  • Ruben Pinto, Mangalore/Australia

    Sat, Sep 30 2017

    The old churches of Mangalore were built using lime and baked mud stones. As these are load bearing walls, they will crumble sure in 100 years time. Are any of the faithful from these parishes willing to put up with the old building and take the risk of the roof coming down on them or would opt for a newer structure where they can pray with peace of mind?

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  • Dr Mohan Prabhu, LL.D, QC, Mangalore (Kankanady)/Ottawa, Canada

    Sun, Oct 01 2017

    Ruben,
    You made a good point about crumbling structures. What prevents strengthening the walls of those structures and putting a strong roof, yet preserving history?
    At least the facade can be saved - done in several countries, including Canada,. Many structures, though old, are not in a perilous condition as you claim.
    Your suggestion sounds like Alladin's pitch "new lamps for old" because he knew he could find treasures in the old.

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  • Wilma Lewis, Hosadu

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    Thank you very much for this beautiful article.
    First of all we must preserve the churches. our perents, grandparents gave their contribution to build the church, sacrificeing even their daily food in order to build the temple of God.
    Today priests, preoccupations are to build beautiful, artistic churches to gain the name and fame instead of to make the parishners the word pf God and to have works of Mercy.
    Poor and sick people are left alone in their suffering and sickness.
    So dear friends be careful while you donate for your parish.
    Instead think of poor for their daily bread and the sick for their medicine.
    Living God is present where the sick and poor.
    Thanks.

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  • Christopher Roshan Lobo, Kulshekar Bahrain

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    Very good article. Sad that the sentimental value is lost by us Mangaloreans. People are crazy who support such ventures. Just to get a name they will patronise such projects. I challenge that no one will donate if they decide that names of donors will not be published. Today my religion is commercialized and the true god fearing spirit is lost.

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  • Dr Mohan Prabhu, LL.D, QC, Mangalore (Kankanady)/Ottawa, Canada

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    It is a great article, and wonderful pictures. May I also thank you again - after many years - for the beautiful book 'The Land Called South Kanara', which you and Michael Lobo gave me when I visited Mangalore many years ago.
    It is a shame to forget history and all its richness. The moderns are keen on replacing the old with new elaborate structures, with generous donations from the "money bags" of the middle east, with scant regard for the historical, artistic and architectural beauty of the old. Even at the international level countries have agreed to spare such monuments from destruction in war time, under the Hague Conventions. The modern generation that clamours for new churches, temples or mosques to replace the old ones have Tippu mentality; only, they don't leave them in ruins as Tippu did; they just demolish them totally and replace them. That is a shame. No sense of history!
    In one of my recent visits to Mangalore, a local friend took me, at my request, to visit Valencia Church; to my shock, I found a massive structure that came in the ashes of the old church that I used to visit 70 years ago!
    I urge State Governments to pass laws requiring "demolition certificates" for historically, artistically and architecturally important structures, whether churches, temples or mosques, before undertaking any such work; and entrust the administration of the law to local authorities such as municipal corporations, panchayats, etc. [Dont' tell me that it is trenching on freedom of religion].

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  • Priyanka Dsouza, Pangla/ Muscat

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    Dear sir, you have penned down the sentiments and emotions of general public /laity beautifully !! Nowadays it's a competition between the parishes not the need to build a new church.
    Renovation is needed but people should give importance to preserve the old beautiful architecture of the altar, the main sanctuary. I don't think the new construction can match the amazing old pictures, paintings & architecture.
    Hope the people who give ideas for demolition of old churches understand this.

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  • John Gonsalves, Barkur / Muscat

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    Very nice article by Mr. Willaim Pais, with his sentiments and emotions which are common with many.

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  • Gurudath, M'lore / Mumbai

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    If people can visualise their great grand parents praying in those churches they won't like to demolish them like this. Carrying out repairs and strengthening them structurally should be done. But demolition should be avoided.

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  • Wilson Saldanha, Shirthady/ Kuwait

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    Demolishing historic churches and building new concrete structure become fashion in Mangalore/Udupi. Church halls become more commercial than community service. I appreciate Goans in this regard. They maintained churches in their original forms whether they are small or big.

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  • Wilson, Pune

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    I agree with you Wilson. It has become a trend in Udupi and Mangalore Diocese. I don't understand what is the need of building new churches by demolishing the old beautiful structures. I don't think there is increase in the population and that is not the reason for building the new churches. If they are the old structures then the survey should be conducted by the authorities . On their recommendation only the churches should be demolished. I believe more than 95% of the churches domolished in twin districs only to compete with other parishes.
    It is waste of hard earned money of the people and instead the money could have been utilized to help the poor people.

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  • Nirmal D'Souza, Bejai

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    All said and done , your comments and remarks are worth reading. But as long as someone goes to HIGH COURT OR SUPREME COURT nothing can happen.

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  • Vincent Rodrigues, Bengaluru/Katapadi

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    This decisions might have not imposed but the opinion of the concerned people might have taken for better cause

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  • Francis, Rome

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    We can thank the infamous Vatican 2 council for these 'achievements' - throw out the old (faith and perennial teachings) and bring in the new (ugly box type protestant pentecostal worshipping churches) is their motto. Gregorian Chant is out, gana gana worship is in. No genuflection and no reverence. Kyrie Eleison.

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  • NN, Mangalore

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    There are instances that beautiful old Churches with stain-glass windows have been demolished ruthlessly and new buildings were erected on the same spot with community hall on the ground floor and Church on the second floor. It speaks more of business needs than the religious needs. Halls are rented out right and left to Tom, Dick and Harry for hefty rent. Olden days, we used to have a separate hall close to Church mostly for parish/parishioners functions for free or nominal rent. The sanctity of divine place has gone, at least in mind.

    We need to retain the originality of our Churches and restore them accordingly using modern technology. We can take an example from Goa. 500 years old Churches are still there. Church should be a stand alone structure and parish hall should be built away from the Church. I hope better sense will prevail among the decision makers.

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  • Rita, Germany

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    what we build nowadays a big church because of less place for large number of devotees,and the old church is not having new amneties and not possible to do so.Some old churches were built that time only with simple means, cant repair .when at all repair means cost is higher than a new one.In olden Goa or in certain Europa churches ,or monstrys were built very solid,could even withstand bombs .They attract people with their its own charm ,and noone wants to demolish.It is too good.Take a example who will destroy chapel at Rom with its painting?we should realize at our times now ,shouldnt demolish such monuments and keep it for the future generation as our heritage.But where it is not able to renew should build a solid prayer house which will last for some ages.It doesnt mean a house.with stones and diamonds but lasting for some years..

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  • jude, belmannu

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    we dont want new churches.JESUS never ever said it to build it.we can help poor to bulid homes,medicine,food,education its real teaching of Jesus. your are staying in garmany. u can find out lot of churches are closing in america and Erop because no devotes. western people leaving Christianity. because. lot of priest busy in building halls and churches and home for them. and helping there own family.

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  • Thomas Valder, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 02 2017

    Mr. Jude, I apologize to disagree with you. Jesus never told to build churches ?. I would like to remind you that in entire Holy Bible, Jesus used bad words only once and that is when the people turned church in to business place where Jesus abused those merchants saying 'brood of wipers'. He also said church is His father's house. Secondly, you say many people in Europe leave Christianity because priests are busy in building churches, halls, houses for them and helping their family. It is better such people of little faith leave Christianity who leave Jesus just looking at the lives of Priests. Those who have strong faith in our beloved Jesus, will never leave their faith on flimsy reasons. May Lord Jesus enlighten people who look at few negative points of Priest who are human like you and me but turn blind eyes towards their sacrifices and services. Remember, Priests are chosen by Jesus. Everyone can not be a Priest as I myself tried to be priest and failed. I feel pity for those who are against priests.

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  • francis lobo, Mangalore

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    For the first time I found an article with no negative comments or for or anti to the articles. Most of the commentators were with reasonable suggestions or appreciation .Even our brothers of other religions also supported the thoughts positively. There was a positivism in the whole article and the reporting. Regularly I was reading the comments rather than the article. But today has been an good day. Congrats to Daiji and the team

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  • Antony UAE, Mlr

    Fri, Sep 29 2017

    I completely agree with Sri William Pais. What is this going on? a kind of competition between parishes? demolishing churches whose alter has the relics of martyrs? Vicars and parish council now and then I see in almost every parish uprooting and desecrating the structures garden plants and mango and ashoka trees felled in church compounds. Respect the work of your fellow priests and don't demolish in front of their eyes atleast when they are alive!

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  • felcy, mangalore.

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Very good article.Priests and Bishops hope understand the feelings of people .Lot of money is collected from the parishioners.Crores of money is spent in building new churches.Each parish priest want to show that he is better than the other,not in commitment but making show in building grand church and having many celebrations in the parishes like jubilee or anniversaries,Whoes money,,,,Do they vvisit he families...... How many parishes care for the poor and the sick . In every parish there are so many struggling to live a decent lives, they cant afford any celebration who cares for them. its a high time the bishop puts an end to mighty buildings and set a standard for the church buildings all over the diocese same. And collecting money for Jubilee celebrations.....etc.Even for marriage parents have to pay donation to the church......minimum 10,000............Earlier parish priest used to live simple life and meet the needs of people,,,,now people have to see the needs of the parish priest..... Not at all witnessing,,,,,thats why people join other sect and do not want to live in catholic church..High time to reflect why the Lord has chosen some to particular way of life..............We need life witnessing religious leaders,,,,Thanks for the beautiful article.

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  • Stevan Menezes, Shirva/Mumbai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    The church is not a structure, but the body of Christ is the church, for the Lord said 'whereever two or three are gathered in my name, I am in their midst', and so also God is not interested in these big fancy buildings called churches or temples of worship buy your very own bodies as temples for the Lord to dwell in, in his spirit (the holy spirit).
    So I rather suggest you not bother about these places but prepare yourself and your soul acceptable to the Lord as his coming is at hand

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  • ad, Mangaluru

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Modern, shaky ornamental structures, unlike the solid gothic monuments appears to be a fancy to Mangaluru diocese. Someone like the Bishop who is responsible for the administration must take a stand on the issue of preserving the old churches. There must be proper funding to regularly maintain and upkeep these old buildings rather than funding for new shaky structures.

    The author is right to take this lead, atleast and bring the issue to surface , so that the decision makers hopefully preserve the un-demolished churches.

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  • Kishoo, Barkur

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    I also agree with the sentiment. I feel pain even when old temples of "365 Temple Town of Barkur" are raged in the name of renovation and some concrete structure mocking in its place.

    Most of the old churches have already been raged and replaced with new ones around my place and the this spree continues.

    I hope and pray that better sense prevails at my birth place Barkur, where a 150 years old Architectural marvel of Roman and Gothic style stands tall with all its splendor and glory, at least till my time ends. Can't even imagine its going down.

    Thank you William for this wonderful insight.

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  • Vincent D Souza, Chennai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    I have over the last five years documented in photos 21 heritage churches in the Mglore-Udupi dioceses; and have heard and read and seen of the demolition of churches like the one in Gangoly at the far north.
    There is a need for the two dioceses to adopt a heritage policy; a simple, doable one that is not hard to formulate.
    We also need meetings with the bishops and senior priests and community leaders to talk freely on the need to conserve - churches hold lots of history of all kinds.
    Parallel campaigns online and offline must be run.

    Key to this is educating the parishioners who get carried away. Surely Gulf money economics cause wanton destruction - most of our new churches are like wedding halls; no character.

    Am looking for like minded people to start campaigning.

    We must start today.

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  • Francis D'Cunha, Karnad

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    We should think hundred times before demolishing the Monuments of Faith. (The Churches). Modernization should not ruin our Heritage. I do have the fond memory of visiting the San Salvadore Church of Honnavar which reminds me the Inherited Faith. Hope the concerned people rethink the decisions to demolish the churches (unless warranted on grave safety concerns)

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  • Rakesh, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Very often it's a trend among the clergy to have their names on the stone engraved as builders. We have seen crores of rupees spent for new churches and most them look like just halls without any esthetic sense nor they inspire any spiritual environment.
    Let's concentrate on building houses for poor, hostels for students, hospital for sick and centers for youth...will see our God very much there .

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  • Dr. Zita Lobo, Mangalore/Rak,UAE

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Unless a building is dilapidated and there is fear of the building falling, churches should be conserved and preserved. When the paintings in St. Aloysius Chapel were weathered and losing colour, the Jesuits make all efforts to restore them to their original glory. It's a beautiful landmark giving Mangalore it's identity. We must make all efforts to preserve the old as far possible as our valued heritage.

    It is observed that for whatever reasons when some priests get transfers to other parishes, they renovate or rebuild the place, according to their tastes. Sometimes there is a parallel construction of their own....in their village or native place.

    This is a very contemporary and relevant article. This article echoes what generally people feel and say. i was reminded of a very sympathetic sermon making the rounds in 'whatsapp' by a brave priest about the way donors, specially from the gulf are pestered for donations on the pretext of building new churches or schools.

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  • iGNAITUS, dubai/mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Absolutlley ...sure..we must start a revolution...to see that the old churches are not destroyed... SEE for example of Goa...where a single church is not demolished....so

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  • Samantha Lewis, Mangalore/Dubai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Wish the author would have published this at least 5 years ago. Yes there is no charm in new churches same like shopping centers concrete structure. Old churches which were built decades ago are originals. The sweat and blood is involved. Now donations donations and more donations. Some places Care takers residences are more lavish.

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  • Ronald, Mangalore-Mumbai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    People spend only 1 hour a week in church generally,
    Why do we need to spend in crores for a structure?
    Why can't we have a simple but large hall like Potta or some other retreat centers? which built on simple steel columns and nice roof on top with more space for ventilation and good airflow.? and rest money can be used for a good cause like health & education fund which will make lot difference in society.
    After all we need a place to pray ans worship right.

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  • Adrian Rufus Fernandes, Mangalore/Ireland

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    I agree with the author of this article. Only in the case of a Church structure deteriorating beyond repair, a new Church should be built. After-all what use is it, if all our Churches are new and majestic and our conscience is covered with dirt?

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  • Ina Carmelita D'Souza, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    while most of old churches in the South Kenara are replaced with modern new structures what is the point thinking of old churches now. We are already getting used to the new life styles in church worship!!!

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  • Vantage Point, mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    This applies even to Masjid....The traditional masjid along the coastal belt around Mangalore had unique architecture ..I felt very heartbroken when a old masjid in my area with this traditional architecture was razed to the ground to make way for grand masjid...which emulated architecture from North India/arabia...
    Archaelogical dept is paying least attention to these masjids and lack of awareness in the community may also be the reason...
    Every community and sects in India has its own unique architecture and culture...

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  • Dr Urban D'Souza, Professor & Head, Faculty of Medicine Malaysia, Udyavar/Malaysia

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Very Pope Francis said ' Keep the churches poor' because God resides in the poverty as Jesus was born in a manger. As someone mentioned here, one needs a pure heart and clear mind to pray to God. We the konkan Catholics of canara are imbibing modernity in every way. We think, when we earn better we must practice modernity. Even in the church we compete. In total our motto is to show off! We donate, beautify, modify and of course change our lovely konkani language over to English? Every part of the World people maintain and preserve their legacy and ancestry. Everyone needs identity as it speaks volumes to the new generation. We feel inferior if still our parents old tiled houses are retained. The way we discard our elders, so we demolish their hard-work including prayer centres. Education and money must make way to preserve the ancestral belongings and heritage. We compete in our homes, churches, society and the World - not for right but for wrong. Let us maintain poverty in churches. These are the words of pope Francis. Reflection on these words, it means a lot.
    Heritage need to be preserved

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    The sentiment and attachment to the old churches are to the parishioners but not to the priest who will be there as parish priest for 5 to 7 years terms.

    Depends on the strength in terms of money power of the parishioners, the priest will sow the seed of new church building.

    If the building are really dangerous , then it is better to go for the construction of a new building.

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  • Anand, Bantakal

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Very good article. You have shared the views of the general public, who otherwise keep quite for simple reason they don't want to hurt the sentiments of religious leaders. Hope the parish priest of Mangalore and Udupi Diocese read this article and contemplate on this issue.

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  • Natash Aston Cutinha, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Beautiful Article.

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  • AnoNymouS, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    The old churches are not earthquake prone and are a health hazard in case of a major natural disaster.

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  • Lobo, Udupi

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Earthquakes? In Canara?

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  • AnoNymouS, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Quote from the article:
    Though Mangalore is “geologically stable”, precautions must be taken said D. Venkat Reddy, Professor of Geology, Department of Civil Engineering, National Institute of Technology Karnataka (NITK), Surathkal.

    He was speaking at a talk titled “Earthquakes, oceans, and tsunamis – impact on coastal zones with special reference to Dakshina Kannada” organised by the Institution of Engineers, in the city on Tuesday.

    Precautions for protection against earthquakes include steps such as constructing earthquake-resistant buildings, developing an early warning system, and vulnerability assessment, said Prof. Reddy .

    Mangalore comes under “Zone3”, which means that it was “a bit vulnerable” to earthquakes of up to six on the Richter scale. The city had an advantage as the coast tilts upwards towards the city, he said.

    Earthquakes depend not on local factors but on geomorphological features of a place. The impact of tsunami waves also depends on the topography and geology of a place.

    He said an earthquake was not a problem but the seismic waves that it generates were a problem.

    Prof. Reddy said all earthquakes do not cause a tsunami. If there was a tsunami in the Arabian Gulf, then it would be a cause of worry for the West Coast of India, he said.

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  • Peter Dsouza, Mangalore/Dubai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    They sustained for decades.

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  • Patricia Pinto, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    What's happening with our ancient monuments in Mangalore is disheartening and makes me so angry and hurt, what's disgusting is that many of us are aware but are reluctant to come forward and speak out. Europeans protects their institutions & and they turn such buildings into national monuments, it's priceless, it's their wealth, it attests and showcase culture and history of a country and its people. Here, we are destroying ours for inconsequential values.. Most of the time, we MANGLOREN Catholic have no back bones to fight for what is right, we are cowards. Shamefully, we'll argue about very trivial things and here most of us will just stand by and allow these greedy people to destroy our treasured heritage.. It's revolting, for us Catholics expected our Priests in this instance to be the first to protect our catholic heritage, but no, they too are without integrity, putting money before their honor. We expect our priest to be honest, with high level of righteousness. Many Mangalorean’s are living in deplorable conditions without a roof over their heads; we expect the devotion of our Priests to be focused on such issues. They supposed to be our role models, the source of encouragements, not to ever participate into making money with greedy likes of them. Shameful!
    We are the laughing stocks in front of other religion, to be so lose in character, no one will protect our religious monuments for us, not even the government, even though such buildings should be protected as national treasures and prohibited of any alteration or destruct ions. I guarantee none of us have seen a Hindu temple or a MOSQUE destroyed willingly by its believers. They take tremendous pride in their place of worship, why shouldn’t we? This is serious, let’s get together and boycott these hideous actions and ensure that at all cost no one touches our precious places of worship. Let’s do it for our God, our Country and the generations that follow… it is our pride and let’s show.

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  • Cyril, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Build hearts, No stones.
    I find old churches are more comfortable to visit.

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  • Sonia Crasta, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    We go to Europe, Goa, Pondicherry and appreciate the churches there, while in our own Mangalore we give donations to build new churches, in fact give donation to demolish the church. we feel proud of our faith when we see cathedrals, Basilicas and other churches. We say to our children this church is built so many centuries ago but here in Mangalore we dimolishsh old structures. What are we to say to our children? If one has to understand the history we largely depend on old buildings as living proofs. if we raze this old buildings we raze our own history, belief and weaken our faith. If we give donations let us only give to maintain old churches and not build new ones. Tipu Sultan persecuted Kanara Christians and distroyed their churches and today we have 'modern Tipu sultans' who demolish churches. Stop at once this demolitions, we need that money for welfare activities.

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  • basil D'souza, mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    It's a competition between the diocese that who is building the biggest, beautiful and lavish church and who supports this ............?????

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  • NELSON PINTO, Udupi /Oman

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    basil D'souza, mangalore

    what you said its 100% correct Bro............

    Now a days by force asking donations .

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  • Titus Noronha, Taccode / Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Article addresses a burning issue and is timely, when day by day old churches are being demolished to make way for the new one. It's very sad that church authorities lack awareness in preserving heritage. Nonetheless everyone should rise up to the occasion to find solution to this issue and at any cost old church buildings need to be protected for they show is the sacrifice and faith of our ancestors.

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  • Ivan Saldanha-Shet., Mangalore-Rosario.

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    A sad spectacle indeed. And our 'respected' leaders advice the preservation of old properties and homes, while the example is just the converse. The part that causes more concern and grief is that out younger members of the community who now make up the majority and hold power are not sensitized in the true direction. Forget old buildings; even the value and care of elders in the family is very neglected. Yes, praying in a grand church and using modern gadgets is not God's idea and is really not necessary. It is only created by selfish humans to direct glory to themselves and forget the true God.
    Kudos. Thanks.-ijss.

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  • Joseph, Qatar

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Long time ago, a parishioner from a certain parish said, "Don't disturb the toiled hard sweat of our ancestors who provided a prayer place to make our future comfortable." So aren't we creating an uncomfortable situation to their souls.

    May be there was an essence and presently the same in today's age if we are to consider it seriously. One can get a right answer if we thoroughly examine our conscience.

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  • Joseph, Qatar

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Apart from the above, I strongly feel building a new church should be genuine ONLY if :-

    (a) The old structure (if any) is in a totally dilapidated state of affairs

    (b) Its condition is regularly deteriorating despite periodical repairs from time-to-time

    (c) Its life has expired.

    I know representatives coming from different parishes seeking financial aid for building of new churches as they do not have parishes and deprived of a common prayer centre.

    As such many people reach out and provide their mite for this noble cause which is very note worthy..

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  • pnto, mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    leave aside the sentiments n attachments if the structure is to be pathetic then it has to be re done. all of us have sentiments attachments to our own homes don"t we demolish n rebuild them ? most important issue the authorities must realize the faithful especially the young ones not interested in structured church. they want to spend quality time with the almighty the best example for this is infant Jesus Shrine of bikarnakatte look at the young people come an spend time there! secondly it has become a prestige for the parish priest to build n prove himself n his capability for self glory sad part is then only he is seen as a capable by the bishops! do a study n you will agree with me. what the faithful need is a decent place to to pray n celebrate the faith as community. not structures costing crores and imposing on each family so much to be paid. rather these crores can be collected for health, homes, education . how many parishes care for these issues. in every parish there are so many struggling to live a decent lives, they cant afford any celebration who cares for them. its a high time the bishop puts an end to mighty buildings and set a standard for the church buildings all over the diocese same. if not its a high time to report these issues to the pope Francis, who may dethrone some of these bishops. look at the church buildings built in recent years in both udupi n mangalore diocese and the bishops inaugurating it n praising the priest building it. dont they see any beter cause to spend the money. its a high time heads of all parish ppc come togather n prepare a document n send it to the holy father then only things will change if not no bishop will have humility to stop this competition

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  • Wilma, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Well written article. Our people should learn to preserve the old structures. They look so elegant. That way I really appreciate Europeans , How they preserve n maintain the old structures. It's not only churches we should preserve all the old structures. You see their architecture is so different n beautiful. You see Goa is so beautiful not only because of the beaches but also because of the old churches n temples. . Even in Manglore u look at Milagres, Bendur, Kordel church n see the new ones which r built they r so different. These old structures add so much beauty to the place . It's r heritage

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  • Eulalia Dsouza, Bijai/Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Dear William, great article. While I am surely not against church or it's authorities, with due respect to our religious leaders, what you have written is so very true.
    Do we need bigger churches, if yes why? Our churches get filled only on occasions like festivals. Otherwise each church does have it's capacity to hold the congregation. Why can't we keep our old churches with a history, sentiments of parishioners intact rather than bulldozing over them n start new structures.
    Commercialization has crept in every religion, religious houses of every belief, we do agree. But let there be a limit.
    Why churches / any religious homes, can not use these huge funds in building homes for poor people, educate poor children & welfare of weaker section of our society ? Is there an advisory committee ( read between lines who these can be.!) that advises them on these developments, which has hidden agenda and hidden interests? Building new structures brings in revenue to certain people of our society, so they go out of their way to encourage and convince religious to get in to these building menace.
    Yes facilities like rest rooms, drinking water etc have to be in place and that can be done. But breaking down old churches is un-acceptable.
    This is my personal opinion and without offence to any of our religious. Please do not take me wrong.!!

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  • francis lobo, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    There is a proposal in one of the parish to replace the polished Kadappa flooring which is 30 year old with modern tiling because someone is giving money. The existing flooring is new as of today. I am not sure whether the council of church has approved this. Only some people who have their ancestors grave are worried become these will be removed. But they are also not thinking whether we need it. Has anybody opposed this move so far. I have not read no opposition so far. Here we are not talking about an age old church building but a flooring which can survive another 50 years. How many time we change our house flooring in our lifetime !

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  • Arun Noronha, Agrar/Karkal/Saudi Arabia

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Hats off to you Willie...well written and I completely agree with you. Feel sad when old churches are being demolished and new churches are being built even though old church structure is safe. Old churches attach emotional value and new church buildings are nothing but new design and spacious. The church where I grew up that is Most Holy Saviour Church Agrar which is old and luckily it was not demolished instead they did some renovations. The church where now I belong to Christ King Karkala is also an old church and recently they have done some renovations at front side of the church. We need to preserve our old churches and hope parish priests and parishioners join hands in this regard.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Any home can be a temple of worship because God dwells everywhere ...

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  • A, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    This scant respect by the authorities has been for long ...now it's a add on....it's all commercial activity...all r paper tigers.....respect to religion n places of worship is long gone

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  • Peter, Bangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Leave about church buildings , Coming days need to search priests first.

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  • francis lobo, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    I fully agree with the author that a old church should not be demolished. There are churches in Mangalore which are not full during week days and also on Sundays. Except during major festivals they overflow and the church arranges services outside the church premises. Then if the church is used only during weekdays why we need bigger churches. Even on Sundays the number of services can be increased so as to accommodate more people. The suggestion to retain the old one and build a new one will not serve the purpose, as the maintenance of the old one will not be done and it will become dilapidated and will be worst than demolishing it. There are places where the main Altar and the side flanks are retained and the frontal portion is removed and extended giving a new look to the existing church and also retaining the past . Such a blend of the architecture will help in retaining the old church and also giving new look to the church. The architecture of the new churches have become like a function hall in place of a prayer hall. Some years back the idea was to convert the church into a hall after the service by simply putting a curtain to the alter, which i think most of the churches are not practicing now. We require bigger churches but redesigning the existing one will serve the purpose .

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  • Rosa Maria, Bajpe

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    The idea of retaining the old church structure will have sentimental attachment and build a new church a couple of kilometres away is beneficial to the community, as they save time in commuting.

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Just fold your hands, close your eyes and pray....one can see "Jesus or Any GOD in different name" everywhere... But people come and gather at one such place with one common goal i.e. "Pray" is called Temple or Church or Masjid. Now you rebuilt or renovate it but GOD is the same

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  • Roshan D'Souza, Mangalore / Dubai

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Absolutely correct!! you will not get the feel of devotion in the new churches which you get in old structures. And moreover, our communities are busy in building structures where we forget to build the families with good morals...

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Dear William,

    I do agree with your point that an old structure especially as sacred as that of a Church, needs to be protected for its heritage. Now, tell me - if we build a new Church structure, who will congregate at the old place for worship ? All may need latest facilities. As such, why keep the old structure and from where the funds will come to maintain it, especially in remote areas ?

    Let me ask you, how many of us retain our parental houses intact just because they are the memories of our past ? We move out and build a modern abode with all comforts. Our ancestral house may remain for one generation after our patents but after us, its surely going to be pulled down. Same goes about structures of prayer house too - whether you and I like it or not, they will eventually be gone some day.

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  • Sheela, Udupi

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Hat off to your dear William for taking courage to write down the reality and truth. Breaking house and church are two different things. Church is built by peoples money and house with your own money. Secondly new church does not have any new facilities it is only a structural show.

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  • Heri Fernandes, Mangalore/UK

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Dear Ms. Lydia,
    Pls do us a favor and do a quick google search to see how old churches and buildings are protected in Europe as they have historical and cultural significance. This has not only made sure that precious history is not lost while upgrading the city, it also has added distinct value and beauty to the modern towns of Europe which clearly showcase their deep bond with the past. Comparing the issue of building a new home and new church is like comparing apples with oranges, the two are way too different! And as far funds for maintaining the old buildings is concerned, if we can collect crores of rupees for building a new church building, I am sure we can afford to pool necessary resources to take care of our old church buildings. Instead if those same funds can be used for building homes for our poor brotheren who cant afford even a decent roof over their head, I am sure Jesus would be much happier! Do you not think so? For he loves mercy, NOT the posh new church buildings..Doesnt He?

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Dear Sheela & Heri,

    I gave the example of our home and the church, with a purpose. We build a new house because we saw somebody else built one, with modern amenities. Similarly, we build bigger and larger houses of worship because somewhere else such huge churches came up. Sheela, precisely because its peoples' money that I am saying - the money needs to be elicited, it does not just flow. In a parish such as referenced one, with people depending on agriculture, imagine the toil they undergo to meet a demand ?

    As for Europe, how many natives come to church do you think ? If its not for Asian/African/Far-Easterners, the churches in Europe are virtually empty. Its these countries that cater to congregation as well as clergy in Europe - you got to believe me. What I suggest is, build a new church alright, but retain the ancient architecture. Why go for multi-stories and concrete slabs ? We do need larger space because our worship lasts more than 10 minutes that can by done even assembling around the premises when the space within, runs out.

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  • Patricia Pinto, Mangalore/Doha

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    I respect your point of view and I agree that unlike us many like yourself don’t have cultural values and attachment . However, just food for thought … The most visited city in the world is Paris , why do folks pays millions and flocks there? For some it’s their life savings spent on one trip.. The ones who values history and culture knows that it’s not for the French blue eyes that they flocks there like bees… It’s to visit monuments, beautiful architecture , history etc. We are who we are because we have history, a gift to pass on the next generation. Who wants to look at these cheap ugly concrete boxes of a building that they built nowadays in the name of modernity and greed for money . Tourists travels to India to enjoy our culture, heritage , our way of living etc. ..

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  • Lydia Lobo, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Patricia,

    "I agree that unlike us many like yourself don’t have cultural values and attachment "

    Sweety, its not me alone - entire state has lost it the culture & values and embraced modernity. Look around to find all ancestral houses split into ten pieces and ten concrete houses come up on those pieces. Value and culture just in theory isn't sufficient, it requires practicality too.

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  • AMAR NATHAL, MANGALORE

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Only few have COMMON SENSE. A rare commodity only called common, where as it is not in fact.

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  • Kishna Dasa, Udupi,

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Old Temples, Churches, Masjids and buildings tell the story of the sturgle, fight, faith, way of life and way of survival of our ancesters, We have a obligation to protect them for the coming generations

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  • roshan, udupi/bangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    An article I was waiting for.......thanks for raising this issue. Crores of rupees are collected (sometimes forcibly)and spent to demolish the old and build new Churches which are built in 16th Century Gothic style. I have not seen a Church built in Indian style in Mangalore/ Udupi. Parish council members and leaders, before planning to renovate the Church, please visit the Church in Hebbagodi, Bengaluru which is in Indian (temple) style.

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  • Kiran, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Sir, u have raised vaild point, identity of person not by keeping surname ,but to protect the culture, hertitage that our ancester left for us.its our duty to pass on the same for future generation.
    We have to learn a lot from historcial monument.
    Good old churches not mere a building rather its a faith ,sacrfies our ancestors.
    I thank author and daiji for touching the vaild and urgent issue

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  • Sam, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    The Church looked beautiful. They should have retained it.

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  • Ivar, Mangaluru

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Church runs houseful during masses.
    If the old church building collapses, the results will be devastating. Hence if you have to retain the old churches, build new churches for prayers.

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  • Ramesh S, MANGALORE

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    ..excellent articles, must be an eye opener..its happening with Hindhu temples also..in the name of jeernodhara(renovation), they construct a marble/granite stone building..only few temple left with heritage, surrounding greenery, ponds..if you visit afternoon, marble/granite flooring so hot you will virtually burn your feet..there are family/community NAGA BANA..these areas must be surrounded by thick forest, it should be kept cool..instead now people constructing concrete structures, laying black stone, granite stone flooring..forget NAGA(snake), even ants cant live in that environment..Hope common sense prevails, our heritage will be kept alive..

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  • kas, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Time to accept the TRUTH

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  • Bollu, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    We must preserve old heritage structures.Otherwise the narrow minded self styled Desh Bhakths keep on saying that everyone belongs to their clan.

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  • sri_elder, Karkala

    Thu, Sep 28 2017

    Only stone structure going to remain longer... We have seen one 12th century structure yesterday.
    Building such building today is not feasible because of costs involved..

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