Mangaluru: Poojary vs Ivan - MLC says he's ready to take vow at Dharmasthala


Daijiworld Media Network - Mangaluru (SP)

Mangaluru, Feb 20: Chief whip of the state legislative council, Ivan D'Souza, used the platform of the press conference he organized on Sunday February 19 in the city which was meant to criticize BJP, to dispute comments passed by veteran Congress leader B Janardhan Poojary against him.

Poojary had, in an earlier instance, pointed fingers at Ivan D'Souza as being the reason behind chief minister Siddaramaiah not visiting Kudroli Shree Gokarnanatheshwara Temple during his visit to the city in October 2016. Poojary had said that because of the MLC, the CM had visited Ivan's house instead of Kudroli temple. He had also lashed out at Ivan and accused him of 'trying to divide Catholics in the region by making baseless charges against MLA J R Lobo' and said that Congress would 'definitely lose' the next elections if ticket was given to Ivan.

In response, Ivan said, "It was wrong on his (Poojary's) part to blame me for the cancellation of visit by state chief minister Siddaramaiah to Lord Gokarnanatheshwara temple at Kudroli. I never advised the CM against going to Kudroli.

Ivan explained that after the arrival of the CM at the airport here, the subject of visiting Kudroli had come up during the talks. "The CM said he had no plans to visit Kudroli as he did not have any invitation for the same. This was what had happened but I do not want to pass any comments about the happenings now. The CM has often visited my house during his tours to the district, and it was no different in October," he said.

Ivan said he is ready to accept the challenge of going to Dharmasthala and taking a vow in the presence of Lord Manjunatheshwara about the truthfulness of his statement. "I am going to Dharmasthala on Wednesday. I will offer prayers to the Lord there, duly submitting to Him that I have done nothing wrong relating to this issue. I am even ready for an 'aane pramaana' at Dharmastala," he stated.

  

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  • manohar, mangalore

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    JP should respectfully retire from the party, through which he enjoyed lot during his tenure. There is no second thought for his clean image. Now more honest young people are there in the society and party. Let them to grow. I don't think Ivan has a clean image in the society. moreover he is egoistic person. For tussle between Poojary and Ivan about not visiting Kudroli, I am sure it is nothing to do with Ivan or anybody else. This is purely Siddaramayya agenda of Muslim appeasement. Only thieves, criminals and rapists are enjoying in Siddaramayya rulings. One thing JP said was true that , next time congress will loose very very badly in assembly election due to his one sided appeasement.

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  • Sandeep, Bejai

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    Mr JP u need to take a break and rest. We appreciate the hard work done by you in past.. when time flows lot other things changes. The Congress team have given lot of support to you in the past.. we the voters he voted u . But you lost very badly.. u need to accept that fact that people are looking for new leader and u need to give chance to them rather cribbing as a immature leader.. if Sachin dravid shewag and Ganguly have not retired then Indian wouldn't have got talented player.. saw way new generation guys to be honest doesn't like a person who keeps on making baseless issues.. u need to be a coach now and advice the upcoming leaders .

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  • Lloyd Dsouza, Surathkal

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    Mr. Ivan plz don't make promises. If ur right, only Jesus Christ a one true God will Bless you always.Remember bcoz of Jesus Christ u have reached such a prestigious position.

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  • Lloyd Dsouza, Surathkal

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    Janardhan poojary was a best minister some ur years ago. We still give his examples as inspiring minister but may b it's time for poojary to take rest from politics bcoz as age moves people can't handle stress,irritation. By his recent statements Poojary may b going through some mental stress.

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  • Michael Noronha, mysore

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    "Ivan said he is ready to accept the challenge of going to Dharmasthala and taking a vow in the presence of Lord Manjunatheshwara about the truthfulness of his statement. "I am going to Dharmasthala on Wednesday. I will offer prayers to the Lord there, duly submitting to Him that I have done nothing wrong relating to this issue. I am even ready for an 'aane pramaana' at Dharmastala," he stated." Unquote.
    Mr Ivan should know that his political career should not be considered more than the "Words of Jesus". Jesus said "You have also heard that people were told in the past, 'Do not break your promise, but do what you have vowed to the Lord to do'. But now I tell you: do not use any vow when you make a promise. Do not swear by heaven, because it is God's throne; nor by earth, because it is the resting place for his feet; not by Jerusalem, because it is the city of the great King. Do not even swear by your head, because you cannot make a single hair white or black. Just say 'YES' or 'NO' - anything else you say comes from the Evil One" - Mathew 5:33-37.

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  • Vincent Rodrigues, Katapadi/Frazer Town,Bangaluru

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    These are all the problems because of communication gap and false prestige which need to be nullified

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  • Lynette Barboza, Falnir, Mangaluru

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    and ego.

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  • Langoolacharya., Belman/Wash DC.

    Tue, Feb 21 2017

    People,

    Both Ivan and Poojary should go to Ivan's birth place Mudarangady (near Shirva),,, there is a 'Pili Chamundi' Gudi there...both should be put inside that...till they resolve all their prevailing disputes...then only door should be opened from outside....

    Same way Pope is elected by consensus...and white smoke comes out from Chimney of St.Peters Cathedral in Rome...

    Same way till Ivan and Poojary resolve all their disputes both should be confined inside 'Pili Chamundi' temple....

    If I remember correctly once Oscar tried to resolve the dispute between Poojary and NM Adyantaya (then Surthkal MLA) in same way...

    People can ask Poojary or Adyantaya what happened then....

    ...JH...

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  • Allen, Mangaluru

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Looks like the back door entry to Legislative Council has gone to his head😂

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  • Donald, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Mr. Ivan why are you becoming superstitious

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  • KRPrabhu, Mangalore /Bangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    These leaders are inspired by Yedyurappa and Eshwarsppa of bjp..

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    When a person is finding mistakes with all, then something serious with that person.
    Mr. Poojary, has forgotton what he has done to his God father, late Rampanna,

    Now Mr. Poojary, you are your own enemy. Sad but true, You enjoyed your political career, during Late PM Narashima Rao.

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  • abdulla, india

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Loan Mela King!!!
    Now , it is your turn to face music......
    Accountability..
    Governance..Abuse..Misuse.. of seat..
    Looted the nation... whole sale.
    Time to dig out all looted wealth..Property..gold... .jewelry..Money invested in fictitious cos.. thru banks etc.
    need to be all attached to the exchecker....
    These are fit to run Sheep and goat farms...
    They didnt want the nation to mfg their own SWADESHI local arms..ammunitions..defense equipments in the nation..
    why?
    because ..who wants to kill the Chicken laying golden EGGS each year..
    Kickbacks.. commissions would be in Billions with 5 to10 % commissions.
    Imagine ..
    God save the nation..
    Wake up india ..wake up..
    stop sleeping...
    Look Dr. Kalams team have produce the best Results..revolutionize the space technology to rule the Skies....
    yes. indians are capable and competent...
    Back and support them..
    save money...
    not LOOT..

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  • lenson, Udupi

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Poojari is jealous on Ivan, that he is growing in politics. so the comment !

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  • Peter, KSA

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Poojari, it is high time you take VR and spend your time with family. Everywhere poking nose at this age is harmful for your health. Don't be Subramaniam Swamy of Congress. Don't lose your respect you earned for so many years.

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  • Paul, Manglore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Anna Poojary is right.Now why Ivan has to got Dharmasthala? He can go to any temples Or churches in Mangalore. Doesn't he belivein church or Temples of Mangalore.

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  • Lavanya, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Biggest joke,can't stop laughing at ur ignorance,Poojary has never taken anyone's name in particular when he gave the statement,plus he had given that statement during dhasara time,y is Ivan taking it out now,is it for publicity or is his guilty conscience eating him up..

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  • L n T, Mumbai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Both need to put huge garland on their neck like Yeddi n Ishwarappa to show public that we are one

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  • PAM Suvarna, karla

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Mr Ganganna,

    JP is straight talking guy,he don't hesitate to highlight the mistake of others,he did so in his younger age,and continue in his present age too, But truth becomes bitter to dongi party and its supporters.

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  • Amigo, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Sooner KPCC take action against BIG MOUTH is better. Pojary, sitting at home without any BELE inventing problems where there is no problem. Kudroli preist must give him one JAPAMAALE and BAGHVADGITA to recite Sri Ram's name always. It will keep his mind Cool.

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  • Shibu, Dubai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    a congressman saying congress will not win next election

    kya comedy hai

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Please do not mix religion and politics as is the job of bjp to do so. As far as Poojari is concerned, he's past his prime and must retire in a quiet and graceful manner.

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  • Shibu, Dubai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Job of BJP but always doing by congress.....

    hahaha

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  • Santan Mascarenhas, Kinnigoli/Mumbai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Taking the vow in the name of God is an easy compromise between running away and fighting. So to say, it is a face saving ritual for most of the politicians, who are known for their wicked motives.

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  • Goppi Monishui, Mangalure/Attavara

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Mr. Poojary has problem of too much complaining inviting fights with everyone.
    Ivan is just opposite to that but he needs 'magne' (prayers) and not 'anne pramaana'.
    'Magne' might help but not 'anne' which might backfire because any politician's oath is too bitter to god.

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  • J.F.D SOUZA, Attavar,Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Unnecessary zugda and brickbats. Our MLC Ivan better go to Karkar Attur Church.

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  • sach, mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    So Chief Minister of Karnataka needs invitation to visit the Lord.... Power speaks..

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  • Mohammed Mustafa, Mlre

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Doesn't poojari know the protocol of a CM?
    CM doesn't need any invitation to visit any religious please, but when some function taking place, he cnt simply visit cz of police security.....

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  • Rita, Germany

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    I have one advice to Poojary.Kindly fold up your finger and keep it closed as others do.I observed many times he points up with his finger which is not a good sign of good manner.

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  • Gangaram, Moodbidri

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Poojary trying to devide communities between - hindu and christian and christian and Christian....

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  • Flavian dsouza, chik/bengaluru

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Poojary is a very senior leader why cant he pick up the phone and talk to KPCC president or AICC folks on his grievances .

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  • Anita, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    high command India d ithunda atha
    london, europe thailand thirgondu ithnda vode call malpunu

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  • Stan, Udupi/Dubai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Religion should be kept away from politics. Why Ivan should take oath at Dharmastala as he does not belong to hindu community.

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  • Sujith Nayak, Kudla / AUH

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    @Stan... oh..is it ??? I think even Ivan dint know before making such statements. Kindly enlighten him on so called secularism.

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  • RR, Mangalore /Bangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    ಐವಾನೆರ್ ಕದ್ರಿ ದೆವಸ್ಥಾನೊಡು ದೀಪಾವಲಿದಾನಿ ಪಟಾಕಿ ಬುಡರೆ ಪೊತಿನ ಜನ... 😁

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  • James Dsouza, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    What goes around- comes around, Ivan is a Showman , He did not win any Election, where as Mr. J.R. Lobo is a true representative of people . Ivan and Siddu were both in janatha Dal before joining congress, so nothing new the CM visiting Ivan's house.

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  • Pratap Rao, Bangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    How are people like Ivan made MLCs? Why does he not have the guts to say that Poojary is wrong and stop at that? What is this oath all about? These congresswallas are becoming like BJPwallas. Leave the temple to the temple priests. Legislators should learn to be secular.

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  • Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Many prominent Politicians were ready to take a vow in front of Lord Manjunatheshwara and had withdrawn it later..Yeddy, Kumaraswamy, D.K. were some of them...Hope, Mr.Ivan will not be one of them..but, Mr.Ivan's comment seem to be convincing...If Ivan asked CM not to visit, It was CM's decision to visit or not to visit...Siddu has his own choice and he acts according to his convenience ..Mr.Ivan is innocent..He can take a vow in front of Lord..

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  • Tom Cat, Mumbai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Ivan and Poojary are lawyers, both making Ullu out of voters they will go to any place to promise just like MP Shoba who is playing Dramastalla. Nothing happens to politicians let them go to any Temple, church or mosque. All these are for common man.

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  • Amigo, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Ivan, don't travel in 2 boats keeping each LEG in either boats, I hope the result you have learnt during your elementary education!!!!!! Secondly, don't CRISSCROSS J.R.Lobo. People of Mangalore has seen the development of the city after many years.

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  • Vishal, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    I don't know who is to blame for the CM not visiting the temple but the whole world knows the backgrounds of both Mr. Janardhana Poojary and Mr. Ivan D'souza. Mr. Poojary is considered to be a very honest and upright person who never hesitates to call a spade a spade. On the other hand, Mr. D'souza is considered a fair weather cock who changes sides and colours as per the situation. Mr. Poojary has always been in favour of the poor and the downtrodden while there are plenty of stories about Mr. D'souza who is said to be ruthless in demanding money from those who go to him to seek justice. Mr. Poojary has been with the Congress all along while Mr. D'souza is an opportunist who jumped from some other party to the Congress. Mr. Poojary has no control over his tongue while Mr. D'souza is an astute politician whose tongue moves in the direction where his boss wants. Mr. Poojary is against the Yettinahole project as he knows the ill effects of this project and Mr. D'souza is in favour of the project just because he does not have the spine to go against the wishes of the CM.

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  • Desi Jawan, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Politics ke liye kuchbhi kharega ... chaye tho ma ki bhi kasam khayega!!!!

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  • Roland, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    This is all natak from the "nominated" MLC. He just wants to be in the news always.

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  • G R PRABHUJI, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Why dragging Lord MANJUNATH. In politics.? Instead of Lord they must take vow in front of Sonia Gandhi. It will be better. This is my view.

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  • Anita, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Congress would 'definitely lose' the next elections if ticket was given to Ivan

    congressman saying.

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  • Shibu, Dubai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    why god is dragged for political benifit?
    either Shoba or Ivan
    no difference.
    And please dont forget kumaraswamy - yeddy vows war infront of Manjunatha.

    Politicians please stay away from god.

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  • Mohan Poojary, Kanekarabettu,Mangaalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Mr.Ivan,
    why your are going to Dharmastala, Lord Manjunatheshwaa and Lord Gokarnanatheswara both are same. How Siddu and you orginal from JDS.

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  • Roys Antony, Ujjodi

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    2 Jokers of Mangalore.

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  • Ronald D, Udupi

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Since Jannanna is old, people should not take him serious and his press meet chata! He has done good job in the past and he should be discounted for the lose talks owing to age!

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  • Anand, Karkala

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Number of Politicians have already been learnt good lesson for their false vow in front of Lord Manjunatha. Think twice before taking such decision....

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  • kas, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Can Feku and Daku try this test for their clean image, heart , karma kundali .......

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  • sri, Karkala

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Visit of any temple need no invitation.

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  • John R Lobo, Mangalore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Why is Lord's name being misused.....????



    Don't dig your own grave in Politics.....!!!!! Even mighty Emperors and their Empire became History Now .....Don't forget.....

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  • Sampath, Mlore/ Blore

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Days are gone when politicians usedto paly with peoples emotions to apply FEVICOL to thier seats (development religion ). Now only space left for them is dragging the Lord. These politicians have no morals and are ready to go to any level to fulfill their evil motives

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  • FRANCIS, Dubai

    Mon, Feb 20 2017

    Dirty politics....

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