Ethnic conflict in Mangalore; Catholic attacked by 'Believers'


Daijiworld Media Network-Mangalore (SHS)

Mangalore, Oct 30: The ethnic conflict among two Christian sects came to fore on Wednesday October 29 here at Derebail citing a conversion drive by a Christian sect called Believers.

Rupert (23), a Roman Catholic who was forced out of the house by his own family for not following the belief of Believers was attacked on Wednesday at Derebail by his own family led by pastor Ronold Watson. He currently lives in a shed near his father’s house.

“I refused to convert into a Believer, a sect that does not believe in church and father culture popularly followed by Catholic and Protestants,” Rupert said.

Pastor Ronold

Rupert was thrown out of the house by his father Ciprian Quadros three years back for his son’s reluctance to join the group of Believers. “I went to my father to ask him to fix the problem spotted in water supply. During this time, Pastor who was at my father’s house, launched an attack for remaining with Catholics,” he lamented.

He was attacked by a group of twelve in his father’s house and even his own sisters and father joined hands in the attack according to Rupert. On the other hand, the Believers practice has been prevailing at a house at Derebail and secret religious meeting were occurring in the same place.

Parakash Pinto, a distant cousin of Rupert told that Ronold Watson, a Christian from Believers’ sect converted from Hinduism performs conversion rituals. “The group led by Watson frequently visited Odissa and Bihar to brainwash and convert poor non-believers to the sect. Watson was operating from Mulky." said Pinto.

The victim is being treated at a private hospital.

A case has been registered in Kavoor police station on the alleged attack.

It is learnt that his family and others dwelling in the said house at Derebail have fled from the place.

  

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  • Eagle eye, mumbai

    Mon, Nov 03 2014

    Rowdy Ronald Wolf the Watson.....he he he OR Rawening Wolf....he he he

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  • Alisha, Mulki/USA

    Sun, Nov 02 2014

    Ladies and Gentlemen, while reading the article,I first felt that the young man was wrong and wronged his sisters and parents. May be yes or may be know. I do not know the real thing, but as I continued to read I felt the Pasters face and name familiar and the fact that he is based in mulki I could connect the dots. Now here is the real thing. The Pastor Ronald Watson, who was known as Rony in Mulky was notorious gangster right from his youth. I grew up hearing his roudism stories. Few years ago he and his gang looted one home, in north Karnataka. Asking for water at night time. I read this story in udayavani, when on vacation.i don't know what hapend to that case. He had numerous cases against him.then one fine day I heard that he became a pastor. India no education no job then he got a job I guess of conversion.People change with time I thought. But it appears not to be true. I think, police or BD orwhoever, should Investigate this crook properly. For him it's about money. Nothing else.with www u can't hide for long.

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  • Vanitha, Mangalore

    Sun, Nov 02 2014

    People are blaming each other without knowing the truth. what they feel in their heart becoz of envy,jealous of customs and tradition and religion.Gods kingdom isnot a devision,God send Jesus for the lost sheep spiritually.No one should perish but to have everlasting life.If Every one read bible and fallow what is written ,these dramas will not occur.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Dear Prabhu Oman, Bangalore.

    Now I want to test the poison which you are giving to me.

    If I drink this poison and if I am not dieing you will say this is a fake poison.

    In front of me first you drink and show me this is a real poison.

    Once you die then only I can confirm this is a real poison and I can drink.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    First answer the question then add your question.
    Your word of god does not apply to me .it's addressed to the pastor who has been accused of this .

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    @Prabhu, Oman

    If you are quoting sacred scripture, you should be able to answer the question posed. Unless like Satan you are here to deceive people.

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    @Prabhu, Oman
    The confused Mr. Prabhu, an atheist quotes scripture "they shall take up serpents and if they should drink any deadly thing it shall not injure them they shall lay hands upon the infirm, and they shall be well." (Mark 16:9-20)

    Like Satan Mr. Prabhu is using deceit challenging the Christian to put God to the test!
    ("Practice what you teach & preach !
    Will join new life if Ronald keeps this !")

    This is my response Mr. Prabhu to you, when Satan challenged Jesus "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'" (Matthew 4:6)

    Jesus answers in Matthew 4:7 "Do not put the Lord your God to the test"

    I dare you to rebut the Holy Word of God!

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    If Jesus really is God how could Satan tempt him? And how could the Devil offer him authority to rule over the very kingdoms of the earth which should have already belonged to Christ in the first place if he really is God?

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    @Prabhu, Oman

    If you are serious and honest, you should study the Bible and what Christians believe. However your comments keep showing your ignorance and your need to remain ignorant which is quite surprising considering you claim to be an Atheist. However I will be brief in my answer as a courtesy as you need to grow up and do some study.

    God as per Christian belief is Three persons in One being. Persons are not the same as being. The Three persons also known as the Holy Trinity are God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. God the Son, also known as the "Word" came down in human form through the Blessed Virgin Mary. This is summarized in John 1:1-18.

    God created Angels who are spiritual beings and there are good and bad angels. Just as God gave humans free choice, he gave the angels free choice and Satan who was an angel, chose to reject God. Satan's main purpose since he has been banished from Heaven is to lead people away from God. Why? Because humans are created in the image of God and Satan hates God as we remind him of God! Satan tempted many people before Christ and will tempt many people after Christ.

    When the Bible speaks of tempting, it means putting the person in a ethical and spiritual confusion like you deceitfully chose Mark 16:9-20 without recognizing Matthew 4:7 !! Had you read the Bible, you would have known God is not to be put to test.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Nov 01 2014

    Dear Prabhu Oman, Bangalore.

    I quote: John 18:36-37 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.Unquote.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    What are you talking ,
    Satan too is the son of god
    check in JOB .refute this !

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    @Prabhu, Oman

    You did not rebut the Holy Word of God, only threw more useless comments.

    I challenge you to show me a verse where "Satan too is the son of god "

    I don't think you know anything about Christianity which is why you keep quoting passages without understanding them.

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  • Dave, Mangalore

    Sat, Nov 01 2014

    Jesus did everything according to the will of his Father.
    He was born with human nature though he was divine at the same time. Without which he couldn't die & get resurrected to rid Adam's legacy of sin which brought upon death.
    God's Plan you cannot fathom with your limited knowledge of imagination which has brought upon these challenges & myopic statements from you.

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  • sam, world

    Sat, Nov 01 2014

    @Prabhu, Oman

    Do you have ANY answer to Jesus' response "Do not put the Lord your God to the test" when you challenge the Christian to drink poison and test if the God of the Bible (Yahweh) is true?

    Now, you even say the Book of JOB says "Satan too is the son of god". Can you show me one verse in the entire BIBLE where it says "Satan too is the son of god"?

    You only write comments which show that you do not understand Christianity at all. I doubt if you are an Atheist or even understand Atheism.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Evolution has been an accepted scientific fact since about 1870, roughly a decade after the theory was proposed by Darwin in 1859. And there are mountains of evidence supporting it, as documented in my "Why Evolution is True, and no evidence for the religious alternative of divine creation. As Pope Francis tries to nudge his Church into modernity, it wouldn’t look good if he espoused creationism.

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  • Rudolf, Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Agree Mr. Prabhu, this Pope is about radical change, coming out of the cocoon, and bringing us near to rationalism and science he is in tune with the evolution of mankind and the new understanding and knowledge gathered on other issues like gays, single parents etc. etc., but the 'fundamentalists' and 'hypocrites' will not like it because the 'Truth' is very bitter and could very well be a big 'hindrance' to their interests!!

    The above is a very personal opinion based on the recent developments!!

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Our brains, which art in our heads,
    treasured be thy name.
    Thy reasoning come.
    Thy best you can do be done
    on earth as it is.
    Give us this day new
    insight to help us resolve conflicts and
    ease pain.
    And lead us not
    into supernatural explanations
    deliver us from denial of logic.
    For thine is the kingdom of reason,
    and even though thy powers are limited,
    and you're not always glorious
    you are the best evolutionary adaptation
    we have for helping this earth now and
    forever and ever.
    So be it.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Francis changes joseph does not ! The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

    “Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. ". Like the fable of Adam and Eve,". we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God” Pope Francis d.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Nov 01 2014

    Dear Prabhu Oman, Bangalore

    I quote John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. Unquote.


    I also quote: JOhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.Unquote.


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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Dear GodlessPrabhu, Oman/bangalore,

    We are not here to hear your dogmatic and twisted theories of the Media.

    The Holy Bible is the truth and the truth is professed by Pope Francis.

    See his explanations:

    Read it carefully if you are rationale and interested.

    Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

    “When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.

    HE ADDED: “HE CREATED HUMAN BEINGS AND LET THEM DEVELOP ACCORDING TO THE INTERNAL LAWS THAT HE GAVE TO EACH ONE SO THEY WOULD REACH THEIR FULFILMENT.

    “The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.
    “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

    God is not a magician. Is he a magician for each and everything to lift up your pen from one table to another table.

    God will do miracles and magic or black magic which is what pope Francis explains.

    God will do miracles at His appointed time space, wish and will and not at the appointed time of believers or the cunning compulsions of Atheists.

    The heading is twisted clearly by the media.

    The twisted Media’s words. Read it clearly what he says.

    Quote me from Pope where he has said we are the generations of Chimpanzee.

    And for your kind information chimpanzees cannot even write, read, talk and reason.

    Atheists are doomed in their season.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Quote ''God will do miracles and magic " or black magic " which is what pope Francis explains
    So why blame the Devil if you have a god doing black magic which has effected you .
    Monkey traits still exist in you too .

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  • Rudolf, Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Twisted or not twisted it is a very very radical and bold statement made by any Pope and should be admired as he is coming nearer and nearer to science and rationality, slowly veering away from stories and fables and coming to ground reality!!

    Just a week ago, his proposal for wider acceptance of gay people was turned down by the church synod!!!

    Atheist or non atheist both are correct as both are not sure of the existence, is it not?

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Dear Rudolf, Mumbai,

    Suppose God was not existed where were the atheists.

    Would they have been called as atheists without God.

    There were no word calling as ATHEISTS.

    Very Pathetic.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    I quote my own comment: God will do miracles and magic or black magic which is what pope Francis explains.Unquote.

    God will do miracles not magic.

    And magic or black magic God doesn't perform. This is what i explained.

    God doesn't perform magic instead only miracles.

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  • Antony, Derebail

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Chris Emmanuel Dsouza, Mangalore
    I agree with you Chris, I too am from the same Parish and know Rupert and his family very well. This Pastor has completely brought Cyprian and his family under his influence and their wealth and land is also at stake. Ronald has tried in the past to take over their property. Rupert is all alone, some of the parishoners andan eminent Christian lawyer have helped him in the past when Ruperts Father registered a assault case against his own son under the influence of Ronald. This Pastor has successfully ruined the life of this family. He should not be allowed to come back to this parish and any of his Conversion activities should be stopped.
    With this incident and the evidence against them, I hope this group stop their evil plans in Derebail, at least.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Pope Francis s evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God is not a magician with a magic wand.
    OSHO: Anybody Who Gives You a Belief System is Your Enemy. Mano Mat, Jano, मानो मत, जानो जानने का पहला कदम हैमानने ...

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  • F.Crasta, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    I do not know the personal life of any pastor, priest or any religious leader. Only God knows their heart. One thing I know every person has weakness but by humbleness, prayer, fasting and having direct relationship with Jesus he can clean us completely.

    Now regarding "New life" it is call from Jesus himself. He says unless you are born again you cannot enter the kingdom of God. Jesus further says unless you are baptized by water and spirit u cannot enter heaven. 1 Cor6:9-11 describes the category of people who cannot inherit the kingdom of God. John the baptist preached same thing about new life,i.e repent and come out of your bondages.

    The love of money, comforts, luxuries, lack of bible knowledge DISABLES a person to lead a prayerful and holy life.

    It is unbelievable yet true, All who preached the "good news" were put to death like Jesus, john the baptist, Stephen, Paul, peter and so on. Do you think they were wrong?

    Hoses 4:6 God says "my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge".

    Do not be like a hypocrite and name sake Christian. Today, humble yourself like a child in front of God, repent of your weakness, invite Jesus in your heart, ask him to forgive, make a habit of reading bible daily, and see next year by this time evaluate the changes in you. May God bless u and fill you with his GRACE, wisdom and knowledge.

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Dear F.Crasta,
    Your same comment appeared before also.
    There are many things in Bible, but we shouldn't argue. for it is matter of faith!
    Important for us to follow :
    Mark 12:30-31
    Which is the greatest commandment God gave us? Jesus replied: 1) You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.
    2) You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.
    1Peter 4:8
    Keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Mark 16:9-20
    they shall take up serpents and if they should drink any deadly thing it shall not injure them they shall lay hands upon the infirm, and they shall be well.
    Practice what you teach & preach !
    Will join new life if Ronald keeps this !

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    The confused Mr. Prabhu, an atheist quotes scripture, but like Satan is using deceit challenging the Christian to put God to the test!

    This is my response Mr. Prabhu to you, when Satan challenged Jesus "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'" (Matthew 4:6)

    Jesus answers in Matthew 4:7 "Do not put the Lord your God to the test"

    I dare you to rebut the Holy Word of God!

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  • Chris Emmanuel Dsouza, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    I know rupert personally, as he is my neighbour at Mullerkad, Derebail. This is a intrusion on 'Freedom of Conscience', and its a crime according to Indian penal code. Few years ago his family had left the church and embraced the more draconian cult of new life led by Pastor Ronald.These cults believe in elimination of priests and church, and believe in individual miracles. Pastor ronald bluffs that he can heal and cure deadly diseases with his prayers! He has single handedly destroyed the family psychologically. These neo-prayer groups led by individual conmen are a danger to our society, and more to the catholic Community. I for one had strongly opposed these religious madmen for years, people called us 'Atheists'. But now they face the heat.

    I feel sorry for Rupert, he is a brave young man. his entire family has been duped by this mad pastor. At this point, catholic church has to stand by him and financial support his living. There are few people like rupert in this world, who are firm in their individual conscious. We are all there with you Rupert, be brave.

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  • Rudolf, Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    "It is learnt that his family and others dwelling in the said house at Derebail have fled from the place."

    Now what about the 'property' mentioned in the earlier report, who will take 'care' of it or 'USURP' it???LOL!!!ROFL

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  • Zandy, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Is this what you call ethnic conflict? Really?

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  • F.Crasta, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    I do not know the personal life of any pastor, priest or any religious leader. Only God knows their heart. One thing I know every person has weakness but by humbleness, prayer, fasting and having direct relationship with Jesus he can clean us completely.

    Now regarding "New life" it is call from Jesus himself. He says unless you are born again you cannot enter the kingdom of God. Jesus further says unless you are baptized by water and spirit u cannot enter heaven. 1 Cor6:9-11 describes the category of people who cannot inherit the kingdom of God. John the baptist preached same thing about new life,i.e repent and come out of your bondages.

    The love of money, comforts, luxuries, lack of bible knowledge makes a person to lead a prayerful and holy life.

    It is unbelievable yet true, All who preached the "good news" were put to death like Jesus, john the baptist, Stephen, Paul, peter and so on. Do you think they were wrong?

    Hoses 4:6 God says "my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge".

    Do not be like a hypocrite and name sake Christian. Today, humble yourself like a child in front of God, repent of your weakness, invite Jesus in your heart, ask him to forgive, make a habit of reading bible daily, and see next year by this time evaluate the changes in you. May God bless u and fill you with his wisdom and knowledge.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Frankly speaking New or Old life
    Any group that divides families is unhealthy. Playing family members against one another, or dividing people is not what Anyone wants. Marriage ordains families and we need to help families to stay close. Having said that, when violence or emotional abuse happens in families, it's appropriate for people to leave but it has to be their choice to leave or to stay.
    Not by force of religion !
    For your info there are bible versus to suit every denomination in this world ( more than 10,000!)

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  • Shashi Shetty, Santhoor

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    F Crasta.. first ask your pastors who are charging Rs. 1000/- to Rs.10000/- for each prayer meeting from the believers. Once I was in a wedding of Pentecostal belief family.. the family was from a humble back ground. But the wedding hall was filled with all modern vehicles. when I went in there were at least 2 dozen pastors or preachers sitting and preaching bible. The bride and groom was sitting on corner. It was more like a religious prayer meet than a wedding. Once the prayer meet was over.. the poor parents had to pay all these preachers cover full of money. once they left the packing lot was empty of vehicles. This new life believers are nothing but, pack of wolves in sheep's cloth. The other day we have seen them trying to create a situation in one of the Roman Catholic church asking for a space on burial ground for their new converts both from Hinduism and also from RC. The preachers are blatant liars and we can keep encountering them during our journey. If you ask them 2 intelligent question countering their argument they curse us and scoot from our place. If you show any weakness they will take over us and we are under their clutches. finally, we will be ATM for these preachers. the man who have gab of tongue can attain a highest ordain and start looting the followers.

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  • Suleman Beary, Udupi

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Pastor...Binkondu ulle...

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    1 John 4:20. If someone says he loves God but hates his brother, he is a liar. For he cannot love God.
    1 Corinthians7: 20-24, Advises to us to remain in the situation in which they were first accepted Jesus Christ as their Redeemer.
    I SHOULDN'T BRAND ALL BELIEVERS, BUT I TOO HAD GREAT DIFFICULTIES DEALING WITH SOME.

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  • Tomas Richard, Udupi

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    men created religion..Jesus was a jew..he said Kingdom of god with in you..learn meditation you can listen to the god the universal conscience..
    All Abrahamic religions portrait god as strict father, or Warden or Jailer or Judge..God is not human..Its Spirit or energy..if u do good u get good..if u sow u reap.

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  • judith pereira, udyavara

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    belief is more important than converting people. all r equal infront of god. we must have belieg and confidence on our religion. our duty is show our children what is good and what is bad. dont critisize other religion. allow to live others. follow what u get good things from other religion dont hate anybody.love ur enemies and ur neighbour. there is only red colour in blood no religion. ok

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  • Philip Anselmo, Mumbai

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Tired of these fools ruining everything. Its the same here in Bombay, Its more of a Business than for god. I've had first hand experience with these so called Christians (Greater Grace Fellowship) its all about "Saving your souls by taking your money" and they come swarming like Flies around s**t, bees around honey. And they turn the whole damn service into some social club where gods forgotten and they talk all pathetic nonsense.like licking the Pastors a*s instead of focusing on god. Actually we should all get together and put an end to this, this despicable crap.

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  • Basil, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Jesus died and crucified for the sins of others. Christians are suffering and crucified for others.

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  • Krupakar, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Catholics & Protestants wake up. Before talking ill about others, first recognise the wolves in the form of sheep right in between us.
    We all need to correctly identify this wolves like believers (Independent Churches & Priest) and show them their place. How long they can fool and black mail people by scaring them and choosing suiting bible verses?

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  • S Mangalore, mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Bible : John 16:7-14
    But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the comforter will not come to you but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

    12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.

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  • Richie, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Dear Non Christians, These accusers and accused , the whole lot that spews venom on thir own bretheren have nothing to do with christianity. Please do not be misled by these namesake christians who have no fundamental character of Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus is Love incarnate, hate and strife is opposite to his character.A true christian will irresistably draw you towards him due to his kindness and love, just like mother Theresa. Only such are true christians.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Christianity is a number one in the world in population as well as in spirituality.

    Of course this incident pains all of us Christians.
    Having largest community in the world there may occur few incidents at any time which is not a frequent and daily subject.

    Of course beating another person is against moral law and governmental law.

    1) I see some foul play in this case from outside of the community Or

    2) May be within in the community for the property or may be the property was purchased by non-Catholics and see like the Baptist case of St. Alosyious who has no property rights in papers but only given verbally till his death.

    Baptist has not lost morally however lost on legal grounds.

    I STILL STAND ON MY COMMENT IN THIS BLOG SOMETHING IS BEHIND THE SCREEN WHO WANTED TO DEFAME CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY.

    Concerning to Church Attacks some crocked commentators wanted just to defame the church of Jesus.

    There are in this blog some chaddi RSS commentators who are the haters of Christians.

    Their now and previous comments proves it.

    Concerning to one Prabhu, Oman, Bangalore, he is a chimpanzee generation through his comments it is visible he has same chimpanzee character.

    We are the generation of Adam and Eve.

    A Human is not an animal. A human is a person who can talk and reason.

    A human has sisters, father, mother, Children, niece, nephew etc., etc., and animals are not called as such.

    GOD IS EXISTING AND THAT IS THE REASON ATHEISTS.
    Supposedly God is not existing where were these the Atheists.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    A man has no reason to be ashamed of having an ape for his grandfather, So why should you? (I have your Popes ok to say so )
    If there was an ancestor whom I should feel shame in recalling it would rather be a man — a man of restless and versatile intellect — who not content with an equivocal success in his own sphere of activity, plunges into scientific questions with which he has no real acquaintance, only to obscure them with aimless rhetoric, and distract the attention of his hearers from the real point at issue by eloquent digressions and skilled appeals to religious prejudice.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    St,joseph......
    "I still say a church steeple with a lightening rod on top shows a lack of confidence."

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  • Antony, Derebail

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Dear Joseph,
    You may have your own opinion that something else is the reason for this particular incident.
    BUT I am from this Parish and I know this family very well.
    Ronald has successfully ruined this family due to the gullibility of Cyprian.
    Chris Emmanuel Dsouza, Mangalore
    I agree with you Chris, I too am from the same Parish and know Rupert and his family very well. This Pastor has completely brought Cyprian and his family under his influence and their wealth and land is also at stake. Ronald has tried in the past to take over their property. Rupert is all alone, some of the parishoners andan eminent Christian lawyer have helped him in the past when Ruperts Father registered a assault case against his own son under the influence of Ronald. This Pastor has successfully ruined the life of this family. He should not be allowed to come back to this parish and any of his Conversion activities should be stopped.
    With this incident and the evidence against them, I hope this group stop their evil plans in Derebail, at least.

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  • Naveen, Permannur

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    * SURESH MAROLI, MANGALORE/BAHRAIN and 72 likes - so , You agree you attacked churches & destroyed the property .MoF

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  • Marshal Cutina, kalliianur, Udupi

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    doctor's son is not a doctor,unless he studied!
    The Christianity also same my parents are Christian I am not unless I accept Jesus as my Savior
    Before give any comment please read the WORD OF GOD !!!!!!
    NOT
    WORD OF PRIEST!!!

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  • Shridhar, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    All the mainstream organised Religions have failed in meeting the peoples expectations, so these small sects mushrooming all over the world... In these small congregations people get personalized attention...

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  • M. K, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Where all these TV channels whether it Kannada or national channels who were roaring like anything when church attack happened. All these channels never delayed blaming BD, SRS. Now what they say and why they are keeping quiet.

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  • M. K, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    After some time even the real faces of the church attack will come out.
    BD, SRS wait for this moment. I suggest those attacks should be investigated by a SIT.

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  • Dave, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Beware of "Wolves in Sheepskins"
    They interpret the Holy Scripture any which way & arrive at your doorstep quoting them to prove you wrong.
    Just tell them, we are with Christ & the Only Church he Established.
    No need to preach us, we have enough Priests to take care of our Spiritual needs.
    They won't trouble you once they realize your Faith is Built on Rock of Jesus & Peter.

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  • Louis Maxim, Udupi/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    All mischives are done by these "New Life" believers and blame used to come on catholic. Most of the people think Christians means Catholics.

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Have you condemned the act these people when they engaged in conversion? Have you condemned them when they insulted Hindu Gods?, instead you all have enjoyed as if it is entertainment.

    But you have condemned Hindu groups when they have attacked their prayer halls.

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  • Jenna, USA

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Contribution is only from Catholics/Protestants not from trouble makers Newlife/Belivers.

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  • Societal Web, Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Pastor Ronold looks like a rowdy. No wonder Hindus are attacking Christians because of these kinds of idiots. Belivers my foot.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Having made a deep study in mangalore for the past 20 years here is what happened....
    It is easy to Brain wash women folk which these pastors do .
    After that they slowly tackle the men folk through their wives.
    Once they have a hold on the family they preach tythe, blessing in abundance, a thousand fold return ( without work or income tax.)
    Finally he is in love with the daughter of the house.
    Incident has taken place in ullal.
    Brainwashed wife gave lifes savings of husband 6 laks 20 years back to pastor for blessings.happened in bendur agnes.
    Wife had a nervous breakdown when confronted by husband,
    Young girls get carried away and are ready to marry elder married pastors because they say god spoke to them
    Happened in jeppu and ullal.
    Finally acres and acres of land is manuplated into pastors family name by false signatures and promises...
    Happened in bikarnakatte.
    The greatest of all is on TV claiming Miracles and raking in millions - B.Hinn
    A rags to riches story is the pastor in Mumbai driving the lates Benz.....blessed by god...financed by fools !
    Their stories are never ending and people are ready to get fooled.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    That does not justify to become an atheist!
    Relation between GOD and the person is personal one to one and no religion or pastor is required to magnify it.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    "It is said that men may not be the dreams of the Gods, but rather that the Gods are the dreams of men." -

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Fri, Oct 31 2014


    Acts 2:22
    You have a long way to go to differentiate between god and man !
    Ye men of Israel, hear these words Jesus of Nazareth, " a man " approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

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  • Harold D'cunha, Manglaore, India

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Money is the Root cause of All Evil.

    Here it is property of Rupert mother, is the real cause and pastor want to grab it. Action of pastor proves he is a False preacher. If Rupert family had no shelter and property, do any think, this pastor will go behind this family.

    In my opinion, Rupert has saved his family from the evil clutches of this pastor, even though he has paid the price of getting beaten.

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  • Lancy M Pinto, Mangalore/Doha

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Luke 12:52 For from now on, a household of five will be divided: three against two and two against three
    53 father opposed to son, son to father, mother to daughter, daughter to mother, mother-in-law to daughter-in-law, daughter-in-law to mother-in-law.'

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  • Joseph Pinto, Bangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    These so called "new life" 'believers" or “possessed holy spirit worshipers” are insane. They were the cause of riots few years ago. They mock at other religions and we Catholics suffer because all of us are known as Christians. However we “Kodialchein Katholik” (Mangalorean Catholics) are peaceful and fun loving people and do not involve in conversions or hate preaches. For centuries, we have strived in Canara region and lived as an ethnic community and not as religious community. We are proud our culture and traditions and we will strive only for the betterment of our society/region/country. This “believer’s community” which sprang up maybe 20 years ago should be ashamed of themselves for having aggressive approach towards religion. This believer’s community has done more harm than good to Christianity’s image. They shout, brainwash make you believe that their way of teaching is a righteous one and a path for attaining heavenly life, blah, blah!! Religion is a choice of a person, maybe lifestyle or maybe a spiritual relationship of oneself with Supreme Being most importantly it’s his/her personal choice supported by the constitution of India. The perpetrators should be brought to justice!!

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Unbelievable. In my opinion the real story behind the screen may be something else.

    SURELY DHAAL MEIM KUCH KAALA HAI.

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  • Jenna, USA

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Are you one of them Joseph?

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  • sid, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    These groups called “ Believers” , “ Born Jesus” etc etc are the main cause of conflicts . According to them only their religion is right and all are wrong . They have hindu names and will use those names to influence and degrade other religion . They will approach you and ask you to attend a so called friendly meeting . I am sure many of you guys would have experienced this

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  • Rohan Pinto, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    ಹಾತಾಂ ಚಡ್ಡಿಗಾರಂಕ್ ಬಜ಼್ಲ್ಲೆಮೆಳ್ಲೆ ಬೊರಿಂ ಜಾಲೆ

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    It's itching no, Mr. Roshan.

    for ಚಡ್ಡಿಗಾರಂಕ್ clearly observer photo 1 & 2.

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITHOUT FOLLOWING RELIGION.

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  • pfc, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Dear ER

    U r absolutely right.But problem is after death. In case if u r answerable need the right religion while still on earth. It is one way ticket.

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  • Rita, Germany

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    @ ER Mangalore,as per your saying can live without Religion.Of course,nobody can force you or tell you to live only with Religion.but it is like a life like animals without direction.One must have a goal and know why and for whom one is living.At the beginning one may feel he is great,.but later one wants to know what is going to happen with self later.Thatswhy set a Goal and what you do during your life and do it with a happiness that satisfy self and your circumstances.BUT dont doany harm to your fellow People in the Name of Religion.Thats important.when one chooses Religion and lives ,you feel stronger in a Unity and can do things better.I found what Rupert did was right.He was steady in his Religion.But his own People were not.when one is not steady in his faith is not good.That Shows that he is not steady in life.Nowadays Religion sekts have comeup in magalore like mashrooms.Trying a Person to Change Religion ,beating him and using force is not good.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    GOVT must handover church attack case to CBI or SUPREME COURT SITTING JUDGE......

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    The core of any religion i.e., Hinduism and Christianity is the 'fear of God'. It is the fear of God which makes a person humane.
    If there is no fear of God, man can be a beast, he will kill people to prove what he believes is right, justify the belief in more horrible way. We have been seing this type of savagery in Iraq, syria, Iran eye.

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  • goks, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    The idea followed by believer group is good. Not following church and father culture will promote free thinking and avoid exploitation by church. However if they act fanatically there will not be much differences between this sect and others

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  • Daniel, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    There were many claimed to be the true & followers of Christ the Lord God but utterly ruined and disappeared. Even Jesus not named the religion as He came for all as He said whoever believe in Him called the CHILDREN OF GOD, that is all. Later the followers were called Christians by others at Antioch. Also Jesus said- many will come in my name and deceive the followers/ believers & mis-guide but one shall be alert and by them by their Fruits.

    Acts 5:38 So now I tell you, have nothing to do with these men, and let them go. For if this endeavor or this activity is of human origin, it will destroy itself.

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  • Ismail, Moodbidri

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
    - Mark 1:7, King James Bible, Cambridge Ed.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    These are the wordings of John the Baptist.
    He was talking about Jesus.
    You people have the habit of mis interpreting.

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  • Dave, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Quote is by John the Baptist regarding Jesus's coming whom he Baptised & said I'm not worthy to tie your shoe laces let alone Baptise.
    Jesus was born out of Virgin & sinless unlike any other prophets preceding or after his coming.
    His second coming even believers of Islam acknowledge on Judgement day
    King James Bible is Corrupted Bible reproduced on the order of corrupt King.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    What better can we expect from the people for whom RELIGION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HUMANITY ?

    Now it is crystal clear that why this community engages in conversions.

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Dinesh,
    Yes they give more important to religion. You can easily make out from some of their comments in DW (no need to mention the names, particularly one person.

    But, when it comes to humanity no one can question them. Their contribution to humanity is immense when compared to other religions.

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  • Peter , Brahmavar

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Innocent christian infants, children, men & women who sacrificed their life for the sake of faith in the hands of militants in Iraq, Syria are the real believers. Not this buglers who claims them selves as believers. They are hunting the lukewarm souls in catholic church.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    ATTACK ON HUMANS is heinous.

    ATTACK ON CHURCHES is secondary.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Police intervention at right time foiled another church attack and blame on Hindu Groups

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    This is worst than church attack..
    Where are those jobless goons going & wasting their time to congratulate CM for rejecting the Church Attack report?

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    These people are the masterminds of Church Attack.

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 30 2014



    Bhandarkar,

    The list for Hindu boys is missing.

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  • KND, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    If Robin takes a dig at this Pastor's past, I am sure that Robin would be an instant BELIEVER of PVD Derebail.

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Rightly said Mr. Ajith. In India lot of persons while commenting in social/web medial, hide their real identity and uses names of other religion to vomit their anger on that particular community. We can see them in DW also. They are called COWARDS.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    They attack their own people and churches and blame BD, VHP, SRS.

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  • Disha Rita, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014


    I just hate this Believers(christian) because they spoil Christianity,, they think they are perfect, they know everything , what they do is correct and in the name of Jesus and God they force and force the people to follow them. some of our Relatives and friends 100 times they call in a day plus coming home to wash our brains. I too fed up with them,,,even if we tell them don't call or come to visit us these shameless believers come and irritate us. many other people just hate them. None of the other Christians will do this except these fools called believers Christians...Other My Hindu friend was telling that she lived with Catholics neighbors for 40 years but not a single time they troubled me rather they were soooo goood but when she shifted her house another place where these believers were there daily eating her brain to be follow them,, finally when she removed her old chappal to hit them they stopped coming to her house.... this is the fact......about them. Disgusting people....

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Disha Rita, Mangalore

    This HATE is no the culture of Christianity.....
    You talk big about Christianity and SHAMEFULLY use the word HATE. Christianity talks only about LOVE.

    You need to get educated from me to know what is Christianity & Love and how great they are...

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  • pfc, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Disha

    Carbon copy of your hate report is recorded in heaven also to present you on the day of judgement. If you are a good Christian u will not hate anyone so much. Bible says if you say a person a "fool" or "u r good for nothing" that person stands for judgement, because everybody is gods creation and by saying so u insult God.

    Jesus did nothing wrong, yet he had a cruel death in order to redeem the mankind from the power of sin. Just imagine how much he should have hated the world, but in reality he loved everybody and forgiven all including u.

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  • Dave, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Jesus Taught us to love one another,
    but he never said show other cheek to those who Defile His Preaching & those who come & judge u while they carry log in their eyes, while trying to expose small piece of wood in others eyes.
    Jesus had chased away the merchants who had defiled the Temple of his Father beating them out.

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Nowadays boys of all faith have to face problems because of so many
    sub-tags in their caste...marrying in their own caste is one hell of a problem because of this..
    A Muslim Boy has to ask the girl:
    1) Sunni aa?
    2) salafi aa ??
    3)Tunni aa ??
    4) Mix aa??
    5) Pinne ?
    :::::::::::::::::::::::::
    A Konkani boy same way:
    1) GSB aa?
    2) Shet aa?
    3) Shenapaanche aa?
    4) Rajapuri aa?
    5) Kaat aa ? mix aa?
    6) Totapuri aa? saraswat aa?
    7)Gomantakka?
    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
    Christian..not far behind nowadays>>.
    1) Rc aa? RCC aa? Bc aa??
    2) Protestantaa?
    3) Syrian aa?
    4) Infant aa?
    5) Anglo Indian aa?
    6) Believer aa? Non aa??
    7) Miracle aa? Non aa?
    8) prayer Group aa? Not aa??
    ***********************************
    This from the same caste with branches hanging mind you. If from different castes ,then you'll know where you 'belong' only after you take the plunge!
    Whatever said and done , nothing is as easy and straight as it looks. However, the young lot has a 'lot of varieties' to choose from!
    Yes or No??

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Dhanya ho Mahaprabhu - sorry Bhandarkarji

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  • Bryan, Bahrain

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Mr. R.Bhandarkar
    Yes,
    But from where you get this logic, What is your breakfast every morning, Bhanduuuuuuuuuuu...

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  • gm, mlore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Isiliye Intercaste marriage hone do. Love marriage, problem kalas.

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  • Rohan Pinto, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    God/angels/religions are all man made items in the past, most religions are perished spontaneously in the past as the arrival & onslaught of new religions but unfortunately most are still existed are because of their ignorance/aggression, People need to be educated to fight against religious terrorism

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  • Yashwanth, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    God raptures the faithful...taking all the religious people away to heaven, suddenly PEACE ON EARTH

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    I wish it would happen in Karnataka and Kerala soon!!!!!!!!!!!! Then at least land price will come down drastically and our Cattle are safe in our Hut too

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  • JK, Udupi/Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    People are talking about church attack only did not think what was the root cause for this attack

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    The people, who visited CM’s Office for congratulating him for rejecting Church Attack Case Report, should come forward and sort out the matter once for all. When you have friends likes this you don’t require enemy from outside for sure…………. Instead of blaming and barking at others better you solve your own problem first and then look at others!!!!!!!!!!

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  • RJ roshan, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    some years back even the church attacks root cause were these believers. the person who born has catholic must die as catholic. dear RSS or Sang pariver people and all other people take a very stable and able step to destroy these believer group. they take the name of christianity and convert many and put the blame on catholic people. such people never worthy to live. so kindly put all culprits behind the bar

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Let the principle of “All such people never worthy to live. So kindly put all culprits behind the bar” applicable to all those who are engaged in conversion issues and then we can agree with your comments…………… do you thing RSS or VHP is engaged in conversion business??? Common Roshan pls grow up now for GOD sake!!!!!!

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Well said...

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    i agree 100%..there were protest/ attack on a night prayer meeting in moodubelle some time back..it was a big news in media..but one of my local christian freind told me totally different story..he was very angry with these prayer groups, who visit their homes & dictate them what to do or what not to do..where to keep idle of god & so on..even their night prayer creating nuisance to the local christian communities and they were happy that some how these things stopped after protest/attack!!

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  • Narendra Prabhu, sullia/Bangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Biggest genocide happened in communist atheist china, Nazi Germany .
    Till we fight based on belief there is no end to this misery.

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  • alva, kudla / jeddah

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Please stop discussing on such non-value added topic.This is a nonsensical issue.
    Bottom line is ' NOBODY CAN FORCE ONE'S BELIEF ON OTHERS '
    If that happens,then there is a legal course to tackle it.
    Enjoy your life without disturbing others please...!!!

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    I think India should be ruled by North Koreans and Chinese for 10 years so that all religious belief is kept private and does not spoil the social atmosphere.

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Rightly said Mr. Ajith. In India lot of persons while commenting in social/web medial, hide their real identity and uses names of other religion to vomit their anger on that particular community. We can see them in DW also. They are called COWARDS.

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Now it is FEKU Raj.Yatha Raja Thatha Praja.When leader is feku how can you find fault in netizens?But as long as FEKU Bhakths with chaddis are there you need not worry.

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014


    THANK GOD , THIS TIME THEY WILL NOT BLAME BJP, RSS & BD FOR THIS ACT.....


    NOW, WHAT WE CAN CALL FOR THIS INCIDENT?

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    No Mr. Shetty, this time not blaming any of the groups but there is an appeal : please apply your 'Ghar Vaapasi' police on this rogue Watson.

    A person genuinely falling in love with a Hindu girl is liable for Ghar-Vaapasi, why not this rotten apple that actually came form the 'Ghar' ?

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 31 2014

    Boda nikleg conversion?

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Quote Mr.STEVEN WEINBERG "With or without religion you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion"

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  • rajesh, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Good one, Ramesh. there are people who think religion makes us moral people. This is a delusion most people carry.

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  • Vasant Raj, Mangalore / Abudhabi

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    I am just thinking of Nostradamus...

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  • John Tauro , M'lore / Kwt

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    It’s high time the faithful of all sects (even religions) should wake up and join hands and strive to bring about unity and harmony among human beings. It has been largely observed that clergymen, priests and pastors don’t work to promote harmony in the society. As Lord Jesus said, “they say Lord, Lord, but their hearts are far from Me,” is exactly what is happening now.

    Now it’s the turn of the common man to rise up and put an end to all man made differences and divisions in community, by respecting each other’s beliefs, by maintaining cordial relations with our fellow beings, by attending each other’s gatherings (if invited) and even by visiting each other’s places of worship.

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  • Ahmed, Karkala

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    First of all we have to know who the God is, everything in this world is creation and God is the creator, “one man came to a scholar and asked show me the God, where is God? The scholar asked him to come at 12 noon next day, next day he came and the scholar took him outside at 12 noon and told him to see the sun carefully, the man refused and told I can’t see, the scholar explained him, if we don’t have capacity to the see the creation how we can see our creator”

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  • Sandeep Maben, UAE

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Believers not converting other religion they converting Christian to believers. Those who was converted by 18th century Germen, Italy, Portugal, England missionaries church like UBM/CSI Diocese ,catholic diocese. Believers are falls people collecting the money for prayer.

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Christians have not even condemned the act of these "Believers" when they insulted Hinduism which lead to Church attack. Now same Believers are back firing them

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  • Fredrick Castelino, Udyavara

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    I request the Bishop of Mangalore and Catholic Sabha to immediately contact Rupert and help him in all sorts so that he can still follow catholichism to avoid further complications.

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  • Roshan Braganza, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Evangelist Christians ( New life , GNAG ... ) etc can be notorious at times. Their Teachings are prestine and biblical , but they can be very extreme and reserved about other faiths. On other side catholics follow lot of PAGAN concepts but are Very Open and subtle.

    Above incident is violation of ones '.self ' and no ' faith ' should tolerate this. It should b a FREE WILL.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Justice Somashekar is right ...

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  • Af, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Somashekar isa chela of yeddi
    kithna liya tha? to submit fools report.

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  • Hubert D'souza, Mangalore Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    These Believers Not Have Faith!!!

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  • Fredrick Castelino, Udyavara

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    In my experience, I have seen these pastors are very rich and following a very luxurious life and some sheep and goats are following them who are illiterate and poor.

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    All sorts of madness is going on in the name of various religions and their sub sects!! Recently I was shocked to see one such group claiming cure of a terminally ill CA patient and irritating and disturbing her with all the rituals/gibberish in the last few days of her life where she was yearning to go away in absolute silence, ultimately these guys had to be shooed away by sensible people in the family!! All sorts of nonsense including curing diseases like full blown AIDS are being propogated by these 'dubious' groups in the name of some unknown God!!

    I firmly believe in the following poem of the great mystic "Kabirdas' who said this in the 15th century:

    "Where do you search me?
    I am with you
    Not in pilgrimage, nor in icons
    Neither in solitudes
    Not in temples, nor in mosques
    Neither in Kaba nor in Kailash
    I am with you o man
    I am with you
    Not in prayers, nor in meditation
    Neither in fasting
    Not in yogic postures
    Neither in renunciation
    Neither in the vital force nor in the body
    Not even in the ethereal space
    Neither in the womb of Nature
    Not in the breath of the breath
    Seek earnestly and discover
    In but a moment of search
    Says Kabir, Listen with care
    Where your faith is, I am there." Jai Hind!!

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Condensed dear Rudolph he said in a beautiful Doha:
    'Gangoot Ka Phat Khol Re'
    Tohe Ram Milenge Ram Milenge...
    meaning: Just peel of your outer mask(or lift the veil that has blinded you)and you will find God...and it is as beautiful as it gets...

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    @ pius, udupi

    Very genuine and praise worthy question.

    So far they are not changed but influence/efforts is being made to pull them too. My children are grown up (in 30's) they should decide.

    I am not the one to answer on the final day for others actions.  

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  • Jacob Mendonsa, Bangalore/Abu Dhabi

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Dear Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait,

    I have read your earlier comment about your wife joining Believers. Even some of my Abu Dhabi/Dubai friend's wives have joined to Pentecost. Even some of my junior Keralite staff have joined Pentecost. These people even encouraging me & my family to join their group. It is strange these own people wants their children to get married in our catholic Church. Some time back one of friend from Dubai called me when a proposal came to his son to inquire about a girl whose parents have already joined to New life. Finally the alliance did not materialized.

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  • makeMyDay, makeMyDay

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    This what we call Church attack...

    Belivers vs Non Belivers

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  • C.D'Souza., Kuloor, Mangalaru.

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    WHY BREAK HEAD. SOME THINK THIS GOD IS NO GOOD AND LET ME CHANGE TO THE OTHER GOD.OR WHAT I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BELIEVE.

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  • Simon, Abu Dhabi / Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    This incidence totally contradicts the teaching of Jesus. If they are His real follower then this must not happen. Anyhow both the parties need to be heard. Let us humble to each other rather making a way for egoism and jealousness.

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 30 2014



    One who changes his/her own (original) religion and in the pretext of Believer turns to other sec t, in the first instance is a half believer. Those who believe in one God should believe till the end in the religion he is born. It’s all brain wash. Religious fundamentalism is spreading. Better the comforts more the tendency to analyses and draw line to compare the difference. Hungry stomach and hard way of life does not give chance to seek and run after different Gods.

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  • vivian, dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Our catholic community only make appeals, protest when someone attacks on church, priest and all. But for common man who is there to help??

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  • mohan, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    It is very disgusting,
    i saw in mangalore maney pentacostians, some called new life, some are calling new born,are coming to roman catholics houses and preaching, and they called them as belivers, what is the hell they doing in roman catholics houses, if they have guts go and preach other relgions,
    they are trying the division in roman catholics
    All roman catholics should come togather before they do more damage true the christianity

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    A QUESTION UNANSWERED......
    IF THIS GROUP OR GROUPS ARE CALLED BELIEVERS AND THEN ARE ,Hindus, Muslims CATHOLICS ,And other groups NON- BELIEVERS / ATHEISTS .

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  • krishna bhatt, moodabidri

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Point to be noted and criminal proceedings to be initiated against him. “The group led by Watson frequently visited Odissa and Bihar to brainwash and convert poor non-believers to the sect. Watson was operating from Mulky." said Pinto.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Lets make some donation to BD/RSS/VHP. Lets donate Watson to their 'Ghar Vaapasi' scheme !

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    No Ghar Vaapasi for you under any circumstance....'

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Jeevan,

    I am sure Jain community is a happier lot without me in it.

    So am I, in my present community. Don't be Ronald Watson yourself !

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Isn't his report an EYE OPENER to those who vehemently denied forced Conversion taking place in India?
    So dont act like innocents and victims of hindu backlash.
    Isn't his report an EYE OPENER to those who believed in one Christ?

    Isn't his report an EYE OPENER to those who said they have no role to play in forced conversion in Orissa and in Jharkand?

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  • Nenari, Nirmar

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Let's listen to Ronald version of the story too. I don't think those who are in Christ would do such attacks.

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  • Harrison monteiro , Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    R u serious when u say tht people who r in Christ won't do such activities... Did you forget what the aloysius priests did in karangalpadi... Do tht old man's house

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  • Nenari, Nirmar

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Who said all those who said Master master will enter into kingdom of God? Knowing Christ is different than being in Christ.

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  • Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Those believers are doing conversion in Manglaore and Udupi dist...BD & SENE mistook it and attacked Christian Communtiy and Church...Please keep an eye on "BELIEVERS"..They don't believe anyone including their own children if they don't believe their belief!!

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, BAHRAIN

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Say No to Violence & say Yes to Peace.
    Just follow the Holy Book with a logical mind and there are answers for all the questions and problems this humanity is faced with. At this point in time what we really need is unity among the humans and not differences.

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  • Koti, Kundapura

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Looks like today is Christian day.

    Attackers should be treated as offenders there is no mercy. Book them under Attempt to murder, Goonda act, Forceful conversion. Then they will learn to BELIEVE in land of law.

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  • lancy, DXB

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    This is FAKE and HYPE by media I can't believe this could be done by Christian to fellow Christian. Please detail on this before getting out of control.

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  • SURESH MAROLI, MANGALORE/BAHRAIN

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Reason behind church attack in mangalore some years back bcoz of "Believers". Believe it or Not.

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  • gm, mlore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Then attack the believers not church man what a foolishness.

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  • Sanghi, Kudla

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    I think you miss took, looks like Stan is trying to say only to Christians.

    Otherwise your statement is correct.

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  • Bryan, Bahrain

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    @SURESH MAROLI, MANGALORE/BAHRAIN.
    Hello Bahraini, What is so funny, You are so happy with the church attack, are you also involved in the church attack? Then it is your time to repent and ask for forgiveness...

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  • sudhi, byndoor

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    @bryan
    Disagreement is part of being a person who has choices. One of those choices is to respect others and engage in intelligent conversation about differences of opinion without becoming enemies. So cheer up...:)-)

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  • Bryan, Bahrain

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    @Sudhi byndoor,
    Oh ya, I remember, So you copy and paste mine words, ur future is bright my friend. Meri Billi Muje Hi Meow...

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  • Nithin, Mangalore/SA

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    @Stan, Udupi/ Dubai

    GOD is called by Many Names by different Religions.., Not only Jesus.

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  • Rajesh, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Sub bagwaan ek nahi hay.
    Sabka bagwaan ek hay

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  • Samson Rebello, Udupi

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    These various groups like believers, born again, panthacost etc., are become a big head ache to Catholics.

    They do all conversion and other nonsense jobs and our brothers from other religions think that is Catholics.

    Catholics should condemn these groups who are reason for spoiling the harmony.

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  • fc, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Today you start reading the bible, I promise you all your headache will go
    and u will realize how much you understood real Christianity. For your own good take this challenge seriously

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  • Rudolf, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    When the air we breathe and water we drink is the same then where come different Gods and religions all are man made for crowd control by inducing fear and promising some illusionary reward in after life!!

    These people might definitely be getting converted for 'material gains', and nothing else!!

    "Religion is my Life, deeds are my prayers"!!!

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  • Well wisher to all, Mangalore/Kuwait/Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    This is ridicules. CHRIST says, LOVE your enemies and these in Christ do these thing is very bad. We can’t forces any one, to convert or change our religion. GOD bless their mind and soul. AMEN.

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  • PVD, Derebail

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Robin Dias, I dont agree with you. I know this boy and his family very well. Every word he has said is true. If you have doubt looking at his face, dont simply give a statement saying he looks guilty, go to this family house area in Mullerkad near Derebail Konchady and enquire with few people there. This prayers, conversion etc etc have been going on since 5 years. His mother died last year due to Cancer. The sisters he has are old enough to marry, but still remain unmarried. Tha pastor has even schemed to take over the Crores worth acres of land Ciprian has after his wife died. This is all become money based conversion politics. The Pastor cant get his way, until Rupert is around.
    Please dont make an opinion simply, rather go and check at Derebail.

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  • Humour, Bangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    May be a fan of WWE star "BELIEVE"

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  • Nancy, Belman

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    No religion/caste is above "Humanity".

    By mercilessly beating what these "believers" trying to prove???

    Is religion has taken so much into their mind that they beat up their own brother/son?

    It is useless chanting "Praise the Lord" Alleluia" if there is no humanity or helping mind.

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  • Roshan, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Faith is personal. Nobody in this world seen good. Everything that makes them to stick to one religion or other is for their birth, faith & possibly culture.
    One can justify why he is following his religion, but one can not force his justification to others. That is crime for sure. If God's first creation Angels some of them can get converted to devils, anything can be possible.
    Probably, every thing is planed for a certain reason, which we are probably unaware of. Miracles happens in every faith and even with those, who donot follow any faith.

    Only people who have some illegitimate and monitory gains force others. Thats my opinion.

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    This Ron Watson the believer must’ve been a staunch believer and practitioner of violence!

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  • Fredrick Castelino, Udyavara

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Such incidents are happening everywhere. Jesus has told not to harm anybody. But in the name of Jesus these believers are giving problems to others. When anybody is not agreeable to join them, it is inhuman to give troubles to him.

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  • vincy, bangkok

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Its a fake plan,I don't believe this theory.
    I rather agree,If a catholic (me too catholic) beat up so called Believer,then its a acceptable theory.

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  • Denzil, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    How long does this continue before sense prevails? Will it ever?

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  • Nanac Shetty, Kinnigoly

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Religions never brought peace in the world. The current crisis in the world is because of the religion and the religious conversions.
    One must learn lessons from history and current crisis of middle east and African countries .
    These people are just greedy for the missionary funds so always interested in the Quantity than the Quality.
    Conversions are creating disharmony in the society and is the main cause of ethnic fighting in African and Asian countries.
    It is high time UNO must interfere and ban all religious conversions and measures to be taken to preserve ethnic identity and cultures.
    Need of the moment is the educational enlightenment not the uncivilized religious brands.

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    When some one sells his own self identity, decision making to religious leaders, family leaders and anybody refuses to do so, they will be outcasted.

    In catholic to a certain extent, from Mangalore Diocese point of view, the congregation had this weakness in the past and now, due to education, the gap has come down dramatically.

    But in other sects of Christianity, when a preacher or a pastor, want to have control over and the follower are just blind to what the pastro is saying, this type of incidents is bound to happen. The pastor might be quoting some scripture to support this type of violence act too. After all, the pastor here seems a convert to Christianity. Pastor attitude itself shows that he is not for service but for power.

    Be careful, This type of of Dongi pastors are many around.

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  • sunil, UAE

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    It is very bad.thats y bajarangdal doing write thing.

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Thu, Oct 30 2014



    What is happening is very strange to pull people from Roman Catholic to Believers sect. I am experiencing such situation in my own family. I believe and follow what my parents have taught and followed for generation but abruptly (since 5 years) my partner has become a believer. Same Jesus but from different angle. I do not think there is special Heaven also. No one knows after death but while living people go overboard sometimes. I had expressed about this sometimes earlier also. Fights, arguments no use. I have surrendered finally, because displacing ourselves with faith difference may not bring happy end in married life.
    Please pray for me. Thanks

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  • pius, udupi

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Mr. Flavian, what do your children follow?.

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  • Vinay, mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Thank god! this time no BD...DONKEY supporters missed the chance to blame Sangh Parivar.

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  • Amith shetty, Mangalore/Muscat

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Ha ha ha ha......at least this time people will not blame Modi for this. I dont understand what is this new religion... from where it came, who is founder? They are again Christians I think. Why fighting them self. Only 1 god ryt?. May be they found some new god. Hindus are maintaining 1000 of god but never fyt.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    In Christianity, so many sects trying to prove their superiority!
    In Islam, so many sects are trying to prove their superiority!
    In Hinduism,so many sects and off shoots trying to prove their superiority!
    Concept of GOD is completely forgotten and Business called religion has taken a center stage now.
    Day people understand that the GOD is above religion and he has nothing to do with religion, entire world will live in peace and prosperity.

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    While condemning this brutal attack in the name of some god
    I suggest to everyone ....
    BE AN ATHIEST
    No conversion, no church attacks, no rituals no human attacks ,and best of all No god !
    Do not spare the pastor or his parents .
    Believers my Foot !

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  • Prabhu, Oman

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    It's so nice to see
    The Catholics agreeing
    And the Belivers Disagreeing.
    Thank you folks .

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    India is the only country I think which has some 3700 castes and many sub-castes attached to it. The numbers always increase by the year !. 'Believers' i think takes the number to 3701!
    In GSB there are a few:
    Panche, Shenapaanche, Rajapuri, Kaat,Totapuri, Saraswat, Gomantak
    Shet and many more...
    In Catholics...Not sure...
    RC, Protestant,Syrian, Non- Protestant, Believer, Non- Believer...Am I correct or not? The last three are recent additions I think...

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Bible society, Satya veda orgaintsations-Andhra organisation (which created converting material, which led to church attack in mangalore)!

    Roman catholics, have never forcibly converted anyone.. but it is these small time organisations, which r into conversions of tribals and less privileged by coersion and bribing!!

    here the trick is "Non-believer (a la kafir) is converted" generally.. but I dont know "believers to believers" yencha aapunda... :-D

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  • Joseph, Doha, Qatar

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Very strange behavior by their very ''near and dear ones'' makes us doubt whether our own can in reality disown us .. all through with a little ''help'' from so- called ''outsiders'' who only think of brain washing our minds and the fabric of our faith. Rock of Gibraltar or pillar o faith - whichever way we can put it .. Rupert is a beacon of inspiration to us Christians who practice our faith devoutly and should continue to inspire all of us. We pray for your early recover Rupert. Continue with the good work.

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  • Subrahmanya, Mangalore/Muscat

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    GREAT "Believers". All religions are moving with AGGRESSION FOR SURVIVAL?

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  • Robin dias, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Its not the true story....truth is something else,when you see the boy's face its shows some guilty face (fishy) its said that ,his own blood sisters & Father assaulted him..!!!!..????...converting people /Brain wash...from other ste people..!!...totally rubbish...may be its some property related matter...no one is assault someone like this...

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  • PVD, Derebail

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Robin Dias, I dont agree with you. I know this boy and his family very well. Every word he has said is true. If you have doubt looking at his face, dont simply give a statement saying he looks guilty, go to this family house area in Mullerkad near Derebail Konchady and enquire with few people there. This prayers, conversion etc etc have been going on since 5 years. His mother died last year due to Cancer. The sisters he has are old enough to marry, but still remain unmarried. Tha pastor has even schemed to take over the Crores worth acres of land Ciprian has after his wife died. This is all become money based conversion politics. The Pastor cant get his way, until Rupert is around.
    Please dont make an opinion simply, rather go and check at Derebail.

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    PVD, Derebail

    I totally agree with u. This pastor is after money and power. He is brainwashed his family and seems like enjoying the support of the so called blind followers .

    Here I support Rupert because he could see the devastation of his family and fighting for it. That is why the pastor has instigated Rupert own family members against each other.

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  • KND, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    If Robin takes a dig at this Pastor's past, I am sure that Robin would be an instant BELIEVER of PVD Derebail.

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Religion is a opium and followers can go any extent to preserve their religion.What religion teaches us?Is this enmity with in the family?Now a days religions are main sources for disunity and bloodshed.Unfortunately, all those who are indulging in such kind of painful incidents are never read holy books of respective religions.

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    What a nonsense!Believers attacking other believrs!I simply cant believe!!!

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  • KND, Mumbai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Sir, Every religion has some fake leaders, believe it or not 'BELIEVERS' are no different this you must certainly Believe.

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  • Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    'BELIEVER' to believe the fact not the 'conversion' act,
    Roman Catholics should come together to teach lesson to these 'BELIEVERS' to avoid further damage to Christianity in India

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  • Albert, Mangalore

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    Shame on assault in the name of religion. God has sent us to do good things. But unfortunately many are wasting time in preaching about God!!
    All religion are just based on belief and fight for it is against humanity.All those 'brain-washers'will surely beaten one day and only God can save their broken bones!!

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  • Pramoda, Kundapura

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    BELIEVER NON BELIEVER TOTAL CONFUSION. POOR CONVERTS FROM ORISSA WILL RECONVERT TO HINDUISM AS SOON AS WATSON REACHES MULKY

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  • Stan, Udupi/ Dubai

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    There is only one living God and HE IS Jesus Christ. All these splinter groups of Christians will vanish like morning dew. How anybody can be follower of Christ when he is not following his teaching.

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  • Rohit,

    Thu, Oct 30 2014

    This sounds like Fake News.

    Why is it that all people who are converting are reported as 'poor'? Looks like new BD, Arya Samaj plot after they got caught in Vivita marriage case.

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