SUMESH NAIK, THRIPUNITHURA

why this guys support mr chottu..he is a pakka fraud... why the kerala police give the look out notice to this barmuda swamy...some guys waiting for chottus yuga ..never never happen this...because the chottu is gurudrohi...he voilated our samaj... KASHIMADATHI PATHI SREEMAD SUDEENDRA THREERHTA SWAMI SAD GURUMAHARAJ KI JAI...SREEMAD SAMYAMEENDRA THEERTHA SWAMY SAD GURUMARAJ KI JAI......

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Venkat kamath, Lancaster,PA

WELL I DONT CARE WHO IS RIGHT WHO IS WRONG.BUT I AM SURE HH RAGHAVENDRA TEERTHA SWAMI WOULD NEVER PERFORM BLACK MAGIC AND THE IDOLS, THE SUPREME POWER WHICH WAS HANDLED WITH UTMOST CARE AND RITUALS WERE RUTHLESSLY HANDLED BY SOME XYZ MEAT EATING,OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY COP.NOBODY HAS WON ANYTHING HERE.IF YOU SEE IN ONE OF THE PICTURES ? THE COP IS SITTING ON THE CHAIR AND THE IDOLS ARE NEAR HIS FOOT.SUCH A DISGRACE.HH STH COULD HAVE SOLVED THE MATTER AS A SWAMIJI,IF HE HAD THE INTELLECT AND TRUST IN HIS FIRST DISCIPLE.
P.S:I NEVER HAD A CLUE OF ALL THIS UNTIL MY DAD SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THIS ILL ACT.

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murali, ernakulam

Letter From Bhamy Sudhakar Shenoy ,Bantwal to Srimad Sudhindra Theertha Swami. Pranams to Shri Kashimutt’s 20th pontiff Shri Sudhendra Theertha from Bhamy Sudhakar Shenoy, Bantwal. in 1992, there was a function to release an album"Janaganga" during your Chathurmaasa at Banwal. I myself had requested in you to listento one of the songs "amuche poorva sukruti sudheendrache murthy" in the album before the release. My respect towards you was increased more than hundred times after hearing your response that just play one or two lines of the song as we(HH STS) are not supposed listen to self praising materials.

The same day our talks flowed towards few elder sevaks troubling you. But you have been ignoring/handling this and taking decision for Samsthan with the help of Lord and Padukas of Guru HH Sukratheendra. I still remember these words from you in this regard. In Ernakulam/Kochi Sukratheendra Theertha was praying to lord in his last days that there should not be any problems to Samsthan and its activities. People are cooking up stories.

You know the fact. Recall them once please. During Kashimutt’s 21st pontiff’s ion process, Ballu and Ramesh’s brother’s horoscope was also being discussed/considered. Its known to many of us. But when the pressure from them was exceeding limits you took the decision with the help of HH Sukratheendra’s vrindavan. HH Raghavendra Theertha was ed. Presently when Sukratheendra Theertha’s sanyasa sweekaram centenary is being celebrated, his ion for Kashi Mutt HH Raghavendra Theertha has been awarded with arrest warrant from Ernakulam Court. On a vegetable vendor’s suspect thinking a Mantravaadi from Kashmir possessing old idols police arrested HH Raghavendra Theertha at Kadapa on 29th Oct 2011. On 2nd Nov 2011, after performing pooja at night prayed to Lord that "When I came from Sacchi’s (HH RTS poorvashram’s brother) house to Kashi Mutt I was empty handed, till now I have performed thrikaala pooja to you keeping aside all the problems. From now on any decision from you is ok with me" with tears in eyes for more than 30 minutes.

After morning’s pooja on 3rd Nov 2011 HH RTS left to Kadapa Court and because of your advocates strong arguments Samsthan Lord’s poojas were ordered to be stopped. As there were issues in deciding the owner of the deities, they were handed over to court. There were failed attempts to transfer HH RTS to Ernakulam from Kadapa by making RTS’ poorvashram sister file a "person missing" complaint in Ernakulam. On 5th Nov 2011, advocate got to know that HH RTS has not taken any food or water and body was dehydrated. Advocate trying to explain the consequences on health to Swamiji to hear a reply from HH RTS- "I think I am done. Hope I had only this much to do. Without Poojas to Lord I am not supposed to have anything." On the day 6th Nov 2011, had not Lord and Sukratheendra Theertha blessed, today there would be no HH RTS. At worst times Srukratheendra Theertha will come t

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murali, ernakulam

Letter From Bhamy Sudhakar Shenoy ,Bantwal to Srimad Sudhindra Theertha Swami.

Pranams to Shri Kashimutt's 20th pontiff Shri Sudhendra Theertha from Bhamy Sudhakar Shenoy, Bantwal.

in 1992, there was a function to release an album"Janaganga" during your Chathurmaasa at Banwal. I myself had requested in you to listento one of the songs "amuche poorva sukruti sudheendrache murthy" in the album before the release.

My respect towards you was increased more than hundred times after hearing your response that just play one or two lines of the song as we(HH STS) are not supposed listen to self praising materials. The same day our talks flowed towards few elder sevaks troubling you. But you have been ignoring/handling this and taking decision for Samsthan with the help of Lord and Padukas of Guru HH Sukratheendra. I still remember these words from you in this regard.

In Ernakulam/Kochi Sukratheendra Theertha was praying to lord in his last days that there should not be any problems to Samsthan and its activities.
People are cooking up stories. You know the fact. Recall them once please.

During Kashimutt's 21st pontiff's ion process, Ballu and Ramesh's brother's horoscope was also being discussed/considered. Its known to many of us. But when the pressure from them was exceeding limits you took the decision with the help of HH Sukratheendra's vrindavan. HH Raghavendra Theertha was ed.

Presently when Sukratheendra Theertha's sanyasa sweekaram centenary is being celebrated, his ion for Kashi Mutt HH Raghavendra Theertha has been awarded with arrest warrant from Ernakulam Court.

On a vegetable vendor's suspect thinking a Mantravaadi from Kashmir possessing old idols police arrested HH Raghavendra Theertha at Kadapa on 29th Oct 2011.

On 2nd Nov 2011, after performing pooja at night prayed to Lord that "When I came from Sacchi's (HH RTS poorvashram's brother) house to Kashi Mutt I was empty handed, till now I have performed thrikaala pooja to you keeping aside all the problems. From now on any decision from you is ok with me" with tears in eyes for more than 30 minutes.

After morning's pooja on 3rd Nov 2011 HH RTS left to Kadapa Court and because of your advocates strong arguments Samsthan Lord's poojas were ordered to be stopped. As there were issues in deciding the owner of the deities, they were handed over to court. There were failed attempts to transfer HH RTS to Ernakulam from Kadapa by making RTS' poorvashram sister file a "person missing" complaint in Ernakulam.

On 5th Nov 2011, advocate got to know that HH RTS has not taken any food or water and body was dehydrated. Advocate trying to explain the consequences on health to Swamiji to hear a reply from HH RTS- "I think I am done. Hope I had only this much to do. Without Poojas to Lord I am not supposed to have anything." On the day 6th Nov 2011, had not Lord and Sukratheendra Theertha blessed, today there would be no HH RTS.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

A Thousand mistakes cannot Correct ONE mistake! Spirituality is loosing its spirit. Swamijis won’t Pardon. Idols which are gone behind the bars are metals now. GOD is always pure and is in our Hearts. This fight is for ego. No body can catch GOD and keep in ones custody. Let fight go on and spread fire in our community. This fire should destroy everybody’s AHANKAR. This fire will not settle until we know for what we are fighting and for whom.......Perhaps it is the wish of the GOD.

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balakpai, alpy/puducherry

Sudheendra theerha swamiji gave so many chances to raghavendra theertha but he never corrected himself.I dont think raghavendra at present is performing the duties of swamiji.If raghavendra has not done any mistake why he is afraid to obey court order.raghavendra is the one who first put case against sudheendra theertha swamiji.I request all our samaj bandavas to analyse his speech in kadappa police station.This situation is created by raghavendra himself.Just think he is not going to any temple that itself indicates that he is afraid to see the lord.I request all our community members to get united inthis issue and save our community.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Many thanks to daijiworld.com giving an opportunity to express my opinions and my whole hearted thanks to my brothers and sisters for supporting (2734) my frank and impartial opinions.
Let us pray such problems should never happen in our Swamiji Parampara here after. And let us pray for prosperity and harmony in our community!

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Rajagopal maam, To run a Mutt, committee is not required.Seers are the Mutt heads.None other could head a Mutt.
If you feel money coming to Mutts,accountable to votaries of that samsthan too,then there are number of banks and tax havens around you who can guard those illgotten money and Mutts don't need those money to run it.
In Dharma,the number of votes polled in Daiji world or some other media/voicevote doesn't count. If votes polled were to be considered,our political leaders would have been in the list much ahead of all of us. Age, money,education,philanthropy etc etc are all material things.

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Rajagopal Rao, Bangalore

Happy to experience overwhelming response to my opinion of Nov 16 which evidences the perception of most members of GSB community. This incident is definitely due to the selfish mind of people who pretent to be self proclaimed leaders of the community. The Autocratic style of functioning has resulted in mistrust and misbehaviour. If the influential are sincere towards the unity of the Community, Practice forgiveness and allow transperancy and democracy in the affairs of Kashimutt. For this I also wish to suggest to constitute a committee with elected members from different parts having a term of 5 yers with Swamiji as the permanent Chairman. This will create a participatory feeling in the minds of common man in the community and will naturally bring ubity.

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Subbayya Bhat, Kasaragod

What ever may be the behavior or the Community leaders if the Seers (both,- if one seer differs then the problem starts )know exactly their duties and Aadhyatmic position the whole episode would not have happened. This just shows the lack of divinity in at least with one seer.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Please do not abuse your rivals through the media. Language used by our brothers is that much worse to read. It is read by the world. Uncivilized criticism and accusing each other will not help anything rather worsen the relationships. Please try to keep away from such writings penetrating the hearts of the devotees. Grudge, revenge, scolding etc will ruin our civilization much more. You may post your suggestion/s, opinions which could help solving the present situation. WE now require peace and harmony in the community. At least for the sake of LORD do not invite rivalry. Try to unite. Unity is strength. Unity is our wealth. Kashi Math Samsthan is ours. Swamijis are ours.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Alleppey Venugopal Maam,Both our Seers did not take oath that they will engage in war.Who is the mastermind behind this scene? Clearly not our Seers. Few hypocrites drove away the real disciples of these Swamijis and encashed the situation from both the Seers. Chorus joined later and formed factions.I strongly feel,even if the Swamijis compromise,the bloodsuckers will not pacify.They may create more troubles. We have already witnessed a number of cases. Some relief for the Junior Seer from Court may keep these parasites out of the scene. Lord Veda Vyas should bail the community from all curses. I feel BOTH OUR SEERS ARE PURUSHA UTTAMAS AND HAVE MAINTAINED RESTRAINT.

But there are many instances in Vedas which may look contradictory. But the solution always lie either in Dwaitha, Advaitha or Visistaadvaitha principle. This problem has solution in HINDU SCRIPTURES which I came across in Spiritual Discourses many decades ago. I did not knew much earlier, a problem like this, will crop up in our own sect. Some Hindu Scripture Tharkashasthris surely know to solve this puzzle.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

WE can keep away from any troublesome situations. The present situation in Sri Kashi Math Samsthan is due to the controversy between the Swamijis. The wealth of Sri Kashi Math Samsthan is the contribution of each and every individual and is a summation of hard earned money of poor too. It is our obligation to protect and preserve its sovereignty. WE have to get together and work together to bring back our Swamijis to their esteemed positions and keep our heritage clean. I am pretty sure, if they sit together and discuss, the matter will be solved within seconds for ever.
Upon his prayers, Hiranya Kasipu was blessed by the GOD that he will not die from a man or an animal, at day or in night and not from any weapon etc: which was mistake done by GOD. Mean time, he became powerful and very confident that he will not face death. Torture went drastic to Prahlada who was dedicated to GOD. This caused the GODs to think over for a solution. Hence the Avatar of Sri NARASIMHA which came out, not as a man or an animal, without violating the boons from Pillar, At dawn Not at day or night, and Hiranya Kasipu was squeezed using HIS nails not weapons, etc. So even GODs committed mistakes and sought recovery.
Though they may have Devine Powers by the Grace of Lord Sri Vyasa Raghupathy, Swamijis are also Human and the errors Humane. Now, for recuperation no other GO than to FORGET, FORGIVE, and BE ONE. Sri Kashi Math Samsthan and Swamijis are ours! If we are ONE, WE CAN DO IT!

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Dear GSBs
Comments are of no use. Every body feels he is right. No body requires Unity here. No one is prepared to Forgive or Forget. Man proposes God disposes. No body is bothered what happens in the community. Groupsm will not allow for a compromise as if we cannot change our destiny. This indicates further deterioration. Unless we perish, we could not develop. The language used by certain supporters is that much worst to read. So many things are happening without coming to Swamijis. But I am sure it is heard and seen by the GOD. We are moving according to the WILL of the GOD. HE will teach us lessons after lessons! Be prepared for the next.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Mr.Rajagopal Maam,My views differ from yours on the points summarised below. Both the Swamijis have forgiven those erring people several times. Swamiji's have never defected from their path.Few ignorant/arrogant people are not allowing both the swamijis to take decision on their subjects and misleading our community.
How would you react to a robber if he sneaks into your house and threatens all your family members at knife point? How will you feel if the spectators ask you to go cool with those robbers?Will you vacate your house for those goons? When it comes to Mutt, Swamiji's decision is supreme as comparable to your decision in your own house.Don't you agree with this point?

The justification of one part as you feel is not just. In God's creation,Man is considered Supreme.GOD has given us sense to analyse.Before arriving at a conclusion,You please analyse why was Lord Veda Vyas and other Mutt paraphernalia handed over to Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha,(Depart from normal custom).How and why both these Swamiji's are trapped? Junior Seer in Police Custody,Senior Seer in Good(Goon's) Custody. How will this community prosper?

If a country(Head of Constitution and Ruler) is under siege by external or internal forces,how can that country thrive? We are heading towards degenerative phase, if these thorns are not nipped at early stage.
There is difference between an enemy,terrorist,naxal and robber. Attack from outside with/without invitation is Enemy,Attack from outside in proxy is Terrorism,attack from our own country men is Naxalism and attack from unknown person of our country for petty material things to eke his life is Robbery. Though there is loss of life and property in all these actions stated above. But why we label these crimes differently? To enlighten us, on who is the attacker.

Similarly, we have to sequestrate and label these goons(Naxals of our community) failing which we may lose our own identity,Our Deities,Our Customs etc,etc.

I had to answer your comment because it has evoked good response(Vote Ratio:782:1).Many brethrens are still watching the situation from backside which indirectly helps those arrogant/ignorant people to swoop Mutt and Temples assets. We have to unitedly cow down those attempts and give free hand to our Beloved Swamijis only.

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Venu Gopal Rao, Bangalore

This is an in house petty rivalry. Better outsiders keep a good distance. There is not need of advise from others. We are capable of dealing our in house disputes.

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Rajagopal Rao, Bangalore

The arrest of Sri Raghavendra Swamiji and the umpteen number of reactions on this is amazing. We the middle class people in the GSB community are at loggerheads on this issue, though they are not at all influential in our day today life. We pretend ourselves as warriors of one of the side. The comments are so strong that each person feels he is right.

Please understand that we are nothing in this drama. People behind the curtain are different and they are nor bothered of us. They try to divide us for their benefit. Remember we had never heard of Gurus and swamijis who are expected to enlighten their followers, show them the right path and lead them by example, fighting each other for wealth and position. What is happened here instead of forgiving they forgot the relity of their position in the community. It is ridiculous to take side and justify one part.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

I don't think there is no need for more Deva Prashnam after The Senior Pontiff found truth, after going behind it. Let We,disciples of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan without no more doubts, happily allow Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha to continue poojas without hurdles and serve this community better.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

This is time to obey court orders and not for a Deva Prasna. It is true that Sri Vyasa Raghupathy is willing to be with Sri Raghavendra Swamiji. Preservation and doing regular Poojas to the deities is a Right bestowed on Sri Raghavendra Swami by the Guru and it very clear that the idols with him are not a stolen property. The indiscriminate attitude towards Sri Raghavendra Swami was launched by the Guru is due compulsion of certain hundred and odd arrogant group wrapped with the Guru. The action taken is not all expected from a Guru to Sishya. An adopted Sishya who would have treated and trained properly is instead cheated by way of threats of dismissal. Guru and the group are torturing the Sishya even below rank of a servant.

I am sure GOD will not excuse any one and spare no one who played the unwanted game which caused shame to the entire community and who thrown out the reputation of Sri Kashi Muth Samsthan for no reason. A Guru must be Guru with full consciousness and He can not be a Guru who is depending and obeying others. O! Almighty! Kindly lead and save us from this troublesome situation.

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kartik shenoy, Cohin

Yesterday I happen to meet an elderly person. He narrated an episode when he met elder swamiji years back.
Swamiji: They commited two mistakes (1) In the case of Cochin Devasom & people of Karnakodam. We have been avoiding that problem for years as we want both the parties. They (HHRT) took a firm decision. (2) in the case Mr.XXX who took acres of land in manglore to built a factory. They (HHRT) asked it back. Can they do it when we have given it?
Visitor: Swamiji you can call your sishya and talk to him and make him understand.
Swamiji: Ho!No. I asked Subraya Vadhyar to take a prashna. He told me to sit quite and not to open my mouth as they(HHRT) is Narashimha. So I am cannot speak to them.


Judge yourself.

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R S kamath, Alappuzha

I feel that the present Episode is created by OUR presiding diety sRI VYASA RAGHUPATHY 4 reason that He donot want to leave SRI RTS.All the so called GSB leaders must think n understand this.They may
conduct A DEVA PRASNA To solve the issue n save the community from GURUSAPA.

THEY MAY CONDUCT A DEVAPRASNA

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K V kamath, Mangalore

Even great warrior like Vishwamithra sought help from Emperor Dasharatha to start Yajna because Vishwamithra's penance breaks if he were to fight those Demons instead of continuing Yajna.Similarly,Our Junior Seer can easily continue penance if more noble hearted people come forward to bail out our Junior Seer. I fervently appeal our brethrens to join us in this noble endeavour.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Even great warrior like Vishwamithra sought help from Emperor Dasharatha to start Yajna because Vishwamithra's penance breaks if he were to fight those Demons instead of continuing Yajna. Similarly, Our Junior Seer can easily continue penance if more noble hearted people come forward to bail out our Junior Seer. I fervently appeal our brethrens to join us in this noble endeavour.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Achievement through fight is not going to last…. That will be eternal if it is got through Peace, Love and Affection…. Things which are owned by you will be owned by some body else tomorrow….. Matter which you care very much today, will be of hatred tomorrow…. Beauty of today will become dirtiest tomorrow….. Clarity of a substance is detected from its purity….. Purity is obtained by refining, removing all impurities stuck to it by processing severally….. Sri Kashi Math Samsthan is undergoing a renunciation…. Who knows the wish of Sri Vyasa Raghupathy after all? HE is the creator and destructor too and remember, HE will not spare any one who is playing with him…. HE will spoil our generation after generation according to the gravity of misappropriation…. No doubt.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Ernakulam Vinodkumar Maam, Please cool down. Ponder, why Karthik Maam fumed.For your kind information,We firmly acknowledge Shrimad Sudhindra Theertha's Sadhana.What we felt insulted is Why Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha is given lots of trouble and the deities not allowed to carry with HIM.If you feel,The Deities and the Seer should be in custody, why not you and et.al. get arrested/remain in judicial custody instead of cornering The Junior Seer and God. I,You or some other xyz cannot arrive at a decision on violations on thrikala poojas as THE GOD ALONE IS THE SUPREME JUDGE.
People must refrain from Mutt issue for ever and give free hand to Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha to decide on all Mutt matters.The Power of Attorney was able to create commotion and division within the community ending in confiscation of Those Holy Deities.
LORD VEDAVYAS WILL REMAIN WITH SHRIMAD RAGHAVENDRA THEERTHA even after all legal battles.THIS IS GOD'S WISH. Enjoy Poojas done to these deities and ensure these Deities coming to all our community temples without hurdles. This is my sincere Prayer to Lord and fervent appeal to our Community Brethrens.
Sage Vishwamithra was a King and turned as Saint later. He was a warrior.After he became Sage,He wished to perform some Yajnas himself. He went to Emperor Dasharatha and explained that few demons may obstruct Yajnas done by him. So, I need a warrior to offend them.Dasharatha said,I offer you an army platoon for it. Vishwamithra said, they will perish. I offer myself for your defence. Vishwamithra said,you too will fail.Dasharatha was astonished and in fury yelled,Is there a warrior greater than me in my Empire? Vishwamithra said, Yes. Give your Rama. He alone is capable than You.Dasharatha cooled down and bowed Vishwamithra.Rama is still young.You please don't ask him.Vishwamithra became ferocious and said, I will create another one like Rama. But Sage Vashista advised Dashratha to send Rama with Vishwamithra.Vishwamithra blessed the King and said,I am taking Your Son single and after accomplishing Yajna, I will bring him to you in pair. Vishwamitra did Yajna,though Demons interfered.Lord Rama killed those Demons.Later,Vishwamithra took Lord Rama to Mithila. Rama took part in swayamvaram challenge and won Sita's and King Janaka's heart.
Likewise, those who bear/help Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha in this distress period will be blessed by The presiding deities of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan and the entire lineage of Pontiffs of this Samsthan. Let those NOBLE SOULS live happily and attain Bliss thereafter.

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kartik shenoy, Cochin

Dear Vinodkumar,

Haven't you heard of the story of Goliath? Consider that I am that small person.

When you ask me who I am to judge one person, I could do the same to you. However I won't as I am not bothered about a single person.

I am more concerned with the present plight of society and where all this shit created by the larger section of society who have money and power and get away with anything like Kamsa or hiranyakashipu who write their own dharmashashtras.

But my dear vinod, the day is not long when Narashimha himself shall appear and jackals shall run for shelter.

But if you know anything about the larger history of Gauda saraswath brahmins write from the shores of Saraswathi, think again with a saner mind, devoid of emotions.

Prayana that started from Saraswathi has reached the feet of Bharatha Matha. Now there is no place further to go. This is the end.

For me society is far more important than any swamiji's. They are also in the process of reaching the higher goal just like you, me or any living being on this earth.

The color of blood is same in all of us. It is not different in the veins of these Swamijis. It is the same paramatma that resides in all of us.

One cannot order respect, it has to be earned.

if one believe without actually understanding it, it becomes blind faith called superstition. When one follows another without understanding fully who he follows, is like the mice led by Pide Piper.

Dharmo rakshati rakhithah.

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Vinodkumar J, Ernakulam

Dear Sri K V Kammath Mam Ur Guru Raghavendra here poplarly known as Barmuda samy has Violated all the spiritual poojas and Thrikala poojas, and he is doing here at Ealmakkara Real estate business. if This criminal is ur Guru we are pitty on you.

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Vinodkumar J, Ernakulam

Dear Sri K V Kammath Mam Ur Guru Raghavendra here poplarly known as Barmuda samy has Violated all the spiritual poojas and Thrikala poojas, and he is doing here at Ealmakkara Real estate business. if This criminal is ur Guru we are pitty on you.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Dear Gopinatha Pai Maam,
I feel astonished to read your Guru and Desh Bhakthi through your letter here. But, WE MANGALOREANS ALWAYS DEFY LAWS OF THE GOVT AND LOCAL ADMINISTRATION OFTEN.
During Pre-Independence and Post-Independence era, though Govt has enacted several Laws on restriction on Rice and Cereal movement,we have fed Votaries sumptuosly, including District Administration Officials visiting Kodial Theru (Mangalore Car Festival) sumptuously which we openly boast even now.
Similarly,when WHOLE INDIA was BURNING and was under CURFEW/SECTIONS IMPOSED regarding SHREE RAM JANMA BHOOMI BABRI MASJID ISSUE, we have celebrated PRATHISHTA POURNIMA in MULKI and fed the VOTARIES DEFYING LAW. None was hanged/penalised/dumped in jails/arrested though many participated.Our GOD'S ENJOYED ALL THE POOJAS AND OUR PEOPLE ENJOYED THE TASTIEST FOODS DONE IN THE KITCHENS OF THE TEMPLE.
Whenever challenges come to our Spiritual Plane,it is our duty to offend/defend it. WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT FOR ANY OR ALL ACTIONS TAKEN BY SHRIMAD RAGHAVENDRA THEERTHA. You too can share and enjoy our presence with our Guru,if you wish.
LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST,We will surely remind you of all orders of the local administration whenever you create hurdles during Swamiji's visit to our Zone here.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Dear Gopinatha Pai Maam,
I feel astonished to read your Guru and Desh Bhakthi through your letter here. But, WE MANGALOREANS ALWAYS DEFY LAWS OF THE GOVT AND LOCAL ADMINISTRATION OFTEN.
During Pre-Independence and Post-Independence era, though Govt has enacted several Laws on restriction on Rice and Cereal movement,we have fed Votaries visiting Kodial Theru (Mangalore Car Festival) sumptuously including District Administration Officials which we openly boast even now.
Similarly,when WHOLE INDIA was BURNING and was under CURFEW regarding SHREE RAM JANMA BHOOMI BABRI MASJID ISSUE, we have celebrated PRATHISHTA POURNIMA in MULKI and fed the VOTARIES DEFYING LAW. None was hanged/penalised/dumped in jails/arrested though many participated.Our GOD'S ENJOYED ALL THE POOJAS AND OUR PEOPLE ENJOYED THE TASTIEST FOODS DONE IN THE KITCHENS OF THE TEMPLE.
Whenever challenges come to our Spiritual Plane,it is our duty to offend/defend it. WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT FOR ANY OR ALL ACTIONS TAKEN BY SHRIMAD RAGHAVENDRA THEERTHA. You too can share and enjoy our company with our Guru,if you wish.
LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST,We will surely remind you of all orders of the local administration whenever you create hurdles during Swamiji's visit to our Zone here.

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GOPINATHAPAI, purakad

I salute you since u are greater than gurdev and respectable than kashimath gurus. Good to see gsbs like u who are grater than kashimath sanyasa parembara so we will be enlightened by people like you who has commented abusing great mathadhipathis. Go through the court judgement of thirupathi which upheld even the highest court of the land. God bless you.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

When a verdict comes, it will be favourable to One Party. Naturally the failed party will file an appeal at higher level and the case will drag on for several years and the cat mouse play will not end. When a favourable verdict is heard the members belonging to that group will pronounce KI JAY that sound like any thing breaking the skies.
We can expect a Judgment favouring the Senior Seer, irrespective of the complexity of the case, considering his noble services rendered to our GSB community, for more than 65 years as Mathadhipathi. But we could pray for Justice to the Junior Seer too, not provocating for filing further appeals in any of the courts. The impartial judgment could be favourable to both Senior and Junior so that the whole GSB Community could be relieved from the hard episode. WE shall pray Sri Vyasa Raghupathy to solve this through the Honorable Justice. At least by the ensuing verdict, we could restore peace, harmony, togetherness etc. WE can now pray no such problem should occur in our Guru Parampara any more. Only Sri Vyasa Raghupathy can help us in this regard and we shall pray and surrender at HIS lotus feet. Sri Vyasa Raghupathy Ki Jai. Sri Kashi Math Samsthan Ki Jai.

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Vinodkumar J, Ernakulam

mr Karthik, who are you to judge the Mahameru like a Sanyasi That is Srimad Sudheendratheertha Swamiji ? for the last 65 years his Sadhana and Thapas for our great Samaj, we are bow our heads in front of that Great Himalaya. you like peoples are responsible for the upcoming of the 'Visha Vriksha'{ Chottu, The barmuda swamy}. so go and beg in the forfiets of Vyas Raghupathy and Sudheendra theertha swamiji's with heart breaking crys. at that time your antharathma open's ur mind and body. god bless you. Vinodkumar j

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gyan shenoy, Cochin

As I understand the situation, A person who was given Sanyasa deeksha genuinely is being tortured in every possible way and also called a thief, which can only be considered brahma hatya maha papa.

Who is going to absolve this sin that shall affect even the future generations?

Or is it that all this talk about shastras are nothing but bakwas?


When the idols of deities are in judicial custody the person who is supposed to the real owner is not wasting even a wink. While the person he himself entrusted them is being tortured. For what? just defying his orders?

how may of your children obey all your wishes and orders? Do you torture them if they don't ?

I don't understand what kind of dharma this is.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

All monkeys in both the camps aren't material cravers alone. There are many, who are still ready to lay down their lives to save our Seers. We have to sequestrate instead of labelling them unilaterally.

After the Mahabharatha War was over, Lord Krishna took PanchaPandavas to their Grandsire Bheeshma to seek his Blessings and to get these Pandavas Lessons on Ruling the Kingdom(RAAJ NEETHI). Bheeshma gently laughed and prayed to Krishna to teach the same to these Princes. Lord Krishna said, you have ruled this kingdom in proxy for long. You have wide experience in this subject. These Princes will readily absorb from you. Bheeshma started his discourse for Pandavas and us too and this is called "MANKI GITA". This MANKI GITA also applies to these material seeking monkeys circumambulating our Seers and the rest of Aishwarya arthis too.

MANKI GITA:
An Agriculturist cum Trader named Manki once reaped a bumper harvest and took the entire produce in a cart pulled by two bullocks. While he was on his way to shandy,he slips into dream.He visualises that, he sells this entire produce at best rates and buys more fields and continues to raise and reap good harvest thereby expanding his fields by the realised money. His dream continues and visualises building dynasty and from dynasty to kingdom and empire.His cart passes a strong big camel lying on the road,hits its hunchback and gets locked with this cart. That camel suddenly getsup and begins to run helter skelter. His bulls get injured. His cart wheels disintegrates and the produce on the cart is strewn everywhere .Manki awakes and sees good bruises on his body.All his dream gets watered.

Here Bheesma is equating this tale with his own life. He could have got married and settled in life. He sacrificed his marriage to please his dad King Shanthanu.His dad got two children from the second wife.Both of them died without progeny after their marriage. Sought help of Vyas and got one blind Dhritharashtra, one weak Pandu and another Vidhura born to downtrodden.Pandu lost life while he was alive. Dhritharashtra's offspring humiliated PanchaPandavas and fought them and perished.All these happened while he was alive. He said to PanchaPandavas, Nothing happens as we assume.GOD'S WISH IS SUPREME. MAN PROPOSES, GOD DISPOSES. The aishwaryaarthi monkeys circumambulating our Senior Seer to loot entire wealth of Mutt will not succeed.We don't know how the mind of Bhagawan Veda Vyas reads in future.Now these monkeys position might be good. BUT WILL IT LAST, IF BHAGAWAN VEDA VYAS HIMSELF IS LOCKED AND DENIED NITHYA POOJAS?

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vittal kamath, mangalore

If I am wrong i dont argue..if i am right I need not argue...I .never argue with the group of monkeys.

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Raj, Singapore

Just take a step back and think .. It's really very shameful that vyasarughapathy is in the hands of police ..instead of we gab community coming together we are fighting like politicians .. Really shame.. I dont think this will happen to any other community or religion .. All pls come together and save our faith and community ..at one time we were really on top of many community now coz of all internal community politics and interest it's a shameful situation..may god bless all and potect self.. So shameful that asset and idols and culture need to be explained to police abt our community ..

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Prem nayak, Auckland

I think the whole guiding principle of swamis should be given no relevance.These are man made entities and have lived through generations.Why bring any individual between god and ourselves.But faith is blind.its like pineapple given by the swami to the rich disciple and a banana to the poor disciple.really influenced by wealth of the devotee.

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kasturi, mumbai

DEAR ARUNA KAMATH USA- Pls while giving yr comment dont refer U Kerala GSB understood? becoz all r not for /agst /or with swamiji. If I say U Mangalore GSBs started this stupid thing then whats Yr answer Ms.USA??

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Dear Sri Vittal Kamath, Mangalore, These Monks you said can survive only with the help of these monkeys. These Monks you said should know they are for these monkeys….and Monks can not be Monks without these monkeys including you.

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vittal kamath, mangalore

this problem is between two monks..i dont understand why monkeys are trying to solve this..and creating more problems for monks..

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Spiritual Knowledge is never inherited. Only Material assets can be inherited. Dhritharashtra though fathered by Veda Vyas did not inherit Spiritual Knowledge,though Veda Vyas has written many volumes on Dharma.If Spiritual Knowledge is inheritable, Dhritharashtra would have compromised with Pandavas and shared some material kingdom. But he was confident of winning Pandavas,till his entire offsprings were wiped off.

Bhagawan VedaVyas wrote Mahabharatha. He had to script the sad story of his lineage fighting with each other.Through Mahabharatha, he has conveyed many spiritual and material thoughts. See Ch-1,Verse-10 of Holy Gita Veda Vyas says as Duryodhana estimating comparative strength on seeing his army that, his army is immeasurable and protected by Valiant Bheeshma. whereas Bhima is protecting the Pandavas.
Lord Veda Vyas is incomparable to any/all Kuru Princes/Kings due to his immeasurable Spiritual Knowledge.What prompted Lord Veda Vyasa to field Bhima against Bheeshma in his epic, in Bhagavad Gita,though Duryodana could have tongue slipped while estimating army's prowess.
1) If Bheeshma as elderly person of Kaurava army is referred as army commander in chief, then Yudhistra's name should have been considered in this verse. Because Yudhistra is elderly person in Pandavas side But his name is not found.
2) If Bheeshma as Commander in chief of Kauravas has been considered here in this epic, then Dhrishtadyumana's name should have been considered for the epic, as Dhristadyumana was commanding forces on the first day of the war. But Dhrishtadyumana's name doesn't appear here in this verse.
3) If Bheeshma as an archer was considered as chief for Kauravas in the epic,then Arjuna's name must have been considered in this epic,as we see Arjuna as a great archer in the whole epic. But Arjuna's name too is not referred.

Scholars say the reason to Bhima's name against Bheeshma is to highlight the Vows taken by these two great Kurus.
Bheeshma pledged that he will not kill a single Pandava in the war. He silently d that he doesn't wish to engage in war against Pandavas.Whereas Bheema pledged that he will not spare a single Kaurava in war.He openly d it in the Courtroom. Lord Veda Vyas has already highlighted the importance of Vow and Dharma in his epic and picturised them as heroes.Bhagawan Veda Vyas lost a section of his lineage in the war, HE could not control the emotions and advised the world through his epic not to go against Vow and Dharma.

Fortunately,Bhagawan Veda Vyas is the Presiding Deity of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan. HE has already advised us through the epic not to break the vow. We the followers of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan have been considering THE SEERS OF SHREE KASHI MUTT SAMSTHAN AS DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF BHAGAWAN VEDA VYASA. SHREEMAD RAGHAVENDRA THEERTHA IS ALSO ONE OF THE SEERS IN THIS LINEAGE.

LET US UPHOLD THE DIGNITY OF SHREE KASHI MUTT SAMSTHAN BY SUPPORTING SHRIMAD RAGHAVENDRA THIRTHA.I

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

AN APPEAL
Who ever win the fight or What ever verdict comes, majority of the community has lost faith in these Gurus. People are very much distressed regarding the leadership of the GSBs. Guru were the entire solutions for a common man. Family problems and Temple disputes and what ever it may be, were discussed and settled by the Gurus then and there. Now the time is so worst as if we lost our Authority to get relief in our Samaj. Groupism will not refrain and will promote non hygienic climate here after too. If we move like this, there will not an end for the fights. If we require Kashi Muth, to restore its noble activities, to get the Blessings of Sri Vyasa Raghupathy, we have to forgive and forget what ever happened. Those leaders who filed the case/s in the court should withdraw them and make apologies to Sri Vyasa Raghupathy altogether. We have to pray HIM to resolve all mischieves and brighten our future. It is time now to awake and try to restore our Unity, Strength, Working Codes etc to regain our Samajic Health. This is an appeal to our Elders, Youngers, Brothers and Sisters and to all our Organisations to make good for the loses we had. Jaago, Jaavo, Karo. Kashi Muth Samsthan Ki Jai. Sri Vyasa Raghupathy Ki Jai.

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VINODKUMAR J, ERNAKULAM

DEAR VENUGOPALA KAMMATH YOUR COMMENTS IS THE BEST JOKE IN THIS CENTURY.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Dear M.Bhat,
Your statements are contradictory even in last letter. At the beginning you said "Shrimad Raghavendra was arrogant and never gave a hint of becoming a good swamiji".If shrimad Raghavendra theertha was really arrogant ,how come Shrimad Sudhindra handed over deities to the Junior Seer.DO YOU STAND TO PROVE YOUR INTELLIGENCE OVER THE SENIOR SEER'S INTELLECT?

Your statement reveals "since inception", so you,PEOPLE created commotion and underplayed.
But I and You alone can't arrive at any decision without seeking Divine's help. You people are determined to bring disrepute to this Mutt,made our Junior Seer a scape goat .I regret, We are not able to enjoy Junior Seer and the Deities presence at our place here.

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Aruna Kamath, USA/ Mangalore

Please don't comment on Kashi math badly without knowing the facts. The kashi math has established so many temples, GSB colonies, land for GSBs for affordable rates, hospitals in Kashi and kalpi. help with funds for eeducation for GSBs. Al these things cost money. GSB temple and Matha money is spent on the community. Kerala GSBs should also try and stick to rest of GSBs for the greater good of the community. Sudeendra Thirtha is a great Swamiji under his leadership the community has prospered. I have his photo as well as the new younger swamiji's. Solve your problems like civilized people please.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Dear Gopinatha Paimam,
Please note that we are all outsiders and we do not have any right over the Kashi Muth to question their dignity. We do not know what exactly happened in between the Swamijis. We can just post our emotions, opinions and can invite others’ views and this is not going to effect the main stream in any manner. We could try to pacify or resolve ourselves.

Accusing each other will not help any one. People engaged severely in a group could not be changed immediately. TIME will prove the who is who. The people who were believed to be too close to Senior Swamiji brainwashed him and forced him to expel the Junior. These elements thought that they could configure the junior also in their system very easily. This was challenged by the Junior and as a result, the present scenario. Partiality, Curse, Grudge, Revenge, Anger, Hot Temperness, Scolding etc are not suitable for a Mathadhipathi who ever so. When we try to express our views, you react as if we are abusing. Facts will remain as Facts for ever and History cannot be over written.

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Vasanth, Mumbai

To M. Bhat, Mumbai,

Why you want God VysaRaghupathi ? When Elder swamji himself has d in Pravachan at Mangalore Sri Venkatramana Temple that there is NO Vyas Raghupathi…there is only BIMBA(when junior Sree is in Elamakar camp). Lord is in my heart. Now why you want this BIMBA? All supporters of elder swamji’s rejoiced by this statement that time. Sad Part is that I was also attended that function, but I was very disappointed by this statement. I presume that all Mumbaikar are not aware of this statement. Now Kindly explain, why did Elder sree told like this as open statement?

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KVKamath, Mangalore

Dear M.Bhat,
Your statements are contradictory in a single letter itself. At the beginning you said "Shrimad Raghavendra was arrogant and never gave a hint of becoming a good swamiji".If shrimad Raghavendra theertha was really arrogant ,how come Shrimad Sudhindra handed over deities to the Junior Seer.DO YOU STAND TO PROVE YOUR INTELLIGENCE OVER THE SENIOR SEER'S INTELLECT HERE?
Your statement reveals "since inception", so you,PEOPLE created commotion and underplayed.
But I and You alone can't arrive at any decision without seeking Divine's help.You people are determined to bring disrepute to this Mutt,but our Junior Seer is made scape goat and caught in your underplay.I regret, We are not able to enjoy Junior Seer and the Deities presence at our place here.

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M.Bhat, Mumbai

Mr.K V Kamath, Mangalore
your argument has no validity. you are trying to confuse us by writing irrelevant points here, like raghavendra Raghavendra is in full form since inception itself where for others it took time. Do you believe such absurd stories ?

Since inception ragavendra was arrogant and never gave a hint of becoming a good swamiji to preside over Kashi mutt and guide people towards righteous path. I once again reteirate that since raghavendra has misrably failed to follow the righteous path and guide people during the life time HH sudhindra Thirtha, he has been dismissed.

A Swamiji should command respect love and affection of of his followers. I have no objection in you following him and accepting him as your guru or whatever but majority of us have shunned that person has brought disrepute to mutt and to the followers. He has been rightly dissmeised in the interest of the community.

There are plenty of Dongi swamijis in India one more addition will no way effect anyone. Like an elder he has handed over the dieties to his shishsya whose true colours he did Not read the time of handing over. SWAMIJI LOSES HIS STATUS ONCE HE IS REMOVED FROM THE POST HE HAS BEEN ATOINED TO KINDL NOTE.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Sri Gopinatha Paimam
Yes. We are ignorant of our dos and donts. Getting birth in a Brahmin Family and wearing sacred thread will not make one a Brahmin. There are stipulations in our Puranas how we have to lead a life. It narrates about the life of a Brahmachary, a Grahastha and a Sanyasi very clearly.In this age, we see adoption of Sishyas in other Muths too and find no such problems there. Why this happened to Sri Sudheendra alone? No body inquested or inquired what is happening in our Muths before this incident. And believed it was the duty of the Mathadhipay.
This Srimad Sudheendra Theertha Swamiji, wished to uplift the Muth by way of introducing several activities benefiting to all of us which invited the RICH to contribute heavily and involve in general. The controversy in Kashi Muth is because of the interference of some unwanted elements in the activities of the Muth. The people who were believed to be too close to Senior Swamiji brainwashed him and forced him to expel the Junior. These elements thought that they could configure the junior also in their system very easily.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Dear M.Bhat Maam,

While getting initiation every Indivdual is a Shishya.Even shrimad Sudhindra Theertha was shishya during Initiation.They resume FORM after Initiation.
Junior Seer Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha is in full form since inception itself. Nothing will befall except the whole Samaj's prestige for failing to hold the dignity of Shree Kashi Mutt samsthan. I read in Local daily, about a lady got vacated, while she was having food in another Brahmin Kshetra. This will be the order for our community, if we can't uphold the sanctity of the Deities and our Seers.

You must first read few Hindu scriptures to realise "who the self is". You people certainly lack knowledge in it and come out with FALSE blast campaigns. I will join you, if you have self realisation in you and prove everything in Spiritual Plane.

Kindly explain the exact reason of Shrimad Sudhindra Theertha handing over the entire set of Deities and the paraphernalia of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan, if you can.WHY DID OUR SENIOR SEER STOP BHIKSHA?If you realise this point,you will hang your head in shame. You need not underestimate the competency of either The Senior Seer or Junior seer here. If you were competent enough, Shrimad Sudhindra Theertha would have chosen you as Successor.Others in our community surely lack it, including both of us. It was Heaven's Dispensation, that shrimad Raghavendra Theertha be coronated as the successor and serve this samaj.

It is only due to God's Soulabhya Guna that we are atleast in this stage.Let us remain united and absolve the sins of all births peacefully,which we have carried along with us.If you are not interested, please try to stay out of this issue.

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kasturi, mumbai

ToMr.Deepak shenoymam
If U feel people are wasting time like kanakadasa and not clean then why ARE U WASTING YR TIME WRITING YR THOUGHTS MAKE WAYS TO MAKE YR FUTURE HAPPIER. WHAT U SAID THAT I BRIEFED U DONT KNOW WHAT U R WRITING

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Gyan Shenoy, Cochin

Does any one cared to know how a chaturmasya is conducted? The poor public doesn't know anything that goes behind in the closed rooms. Try to find out and I am sure you shall be surprised.

The Math / Swamiji gets only a small percentage of the Poogas cost . The rest, a major portion is taken by the person who conducts the Chaturmasya or Ganesh ulsava.

This is a business for and has benefited them highly.

Shree Raghavendra Tirtha objected against and alleged that the full amount collected towards poojas belong to the math.

One can understand how would the benefactors react.

What about many other activities including constructions? How many does get to know what happens to the amount collected from the public?

Shree Sudhindra Tirtha for some reason putup with all that was going on. There is no doubt that he is compassionate and truly divine person and may have thought let monkeys get their share. However the moneys grew to become gorillas and too powerful. Unfortunately they got a spanner to threw at Shree Raghavendra Tirtha in the name of Gurudroha. He played right into their hands.

It is better we pray for the grace of Vyasa Reghupathy.

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Vasanth, Mumbai

To Mr. Bhat, Neither I support to Raghavendra tirta nor against to Sudhindra Tirta. Let’s do one thing. Including Sudhindra tirta, raghavendra tirtra and people who are close to swamji’s (means so called Big GSB leaders) infornt of Lord Vedvysa that “ they have not taken any money/benefit from Mutt “(this is for people Big GSB leaders) and for swamji’s they that “ they have not doing any such thing which is against to Shanyasthava / Kashimutt parampara. Hope we all believe in Lord Vedvysa and hoping Truth will come.

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M.Bhat, Mumbai

K V Kamath, Mangalore
I laugh at your foolishness for inviting me for Raghavendras camp at mulky. Since i donot consider him a either a guru or shishya there is no question of me attending his camp. Its people like you who have misguided him and created rift between Senior Swamji and Raghavendra for personal gains. I feel pity on you for justifying his misdeeds and still calling him Swamiji. This blog has more raghavendra bhaktas then HH sudhindra thirtha swamiji. LONG live Kashimath Saumsthan.

One thing i would like to bring to your notice agagin is that Ragahvendar was inititaed as shishys by HH Sudhindra thirtha Swamiji. He alone has right to dismiss him of grounds of incompetency, misbehaviour, misuses of funds attachement to worldy affairs even after renouncing his purvapada. I have no qualm if you people sing peanose in his praise.

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R S Prabhu, ernakulam

From a close look at the entire comments here it is clear that both have great consideration and love and care for our samaj.while supporters of junior swamy shows mored analytical skills supporters of senior swamy shows blind bhakti which great indeed in spiritual term.

But our kashi mutt have shown great care for upliftment and direction and settlement of our samaj ever since we were driven out from goa. with out them our identity was zero. our settlement in various pockets was only because swamijis could impress kings to give land to us,in the name of god. but present senior swamijis in 60's and7/'s were more intersted in golden planqine and dwaja and garuda fpr gods thanin our samaj people were poor and not having food or cloth many run from native place but no support came from kahi mutt or rich only temple and mutt enriched themselves.

this is refusal of doing leadership in material world by swamiji which earlier gurus have done have resulted in frustration and explosion.raghavendra swamiji has given a vent for this frustration. people are comfortable now neither swamiji leadership in material world is relevant now.

a person who failed in his duty of material world how can he lead in spiritual world. at least now gurus should know what people want channalise it into success in both this world and other world. others wise this mutt system will be only athing to remember in the days to come

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Gopinath pai mama,You are speaking everything in material angleSee this issue in spiritual angle. Has Bhagwan Veda Vyas ever went into others hands in our Mutt parampara other than The Seers of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan?Who created hurdles to Lord Veda Vyasa in getting Nithya Poojas?Will Lord Veda Vyas be delighted with the ablutions performed later after the issue is over,when he was denied Nithya Pooja now?

All Spiritual issues have solutions only in Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads and not the other way.Though Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha tried best to avert disaster by moving to courts, few ignorant/mischievous/disgruntled people were relentless in pulling down the curtains Of shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan and tarnish the image of whole community.

If possible try to reply Mr. Karthik Shenoy Maam's letter. I don't like to elaborate more as many cases are still pending in our Hon'ble courts. Courts can interpret on the points argued.Courts will deliver judgements in spiritual angle on judges attaining Spiritual knowledge.We have to inevitably wait till that time. We don't have Spiritual courts separately to deal with situations that has come now.

But GOD'S Court has it and every individual has to face it.None will argue there for us other than self.

It's better in everyone's interest to withdraw all cases against Junior Seer immediately thereby paving way for Nithya poojas to happen as usual rather than inviting wrath of God's, the GSB's and the other well wishers.

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gopinathapai, purakad

Yes venugopal kamathma, This is a fight between evil and good in this polluted community including myself. Raghavendra is only the tip of the iceburg. It is evident from the comments abusing the Great Gurudev and the Great peetha of kashimath how deep the dharmic downfall for the samaj.There is up and downs for the individuals ,samaj and institutions.

We have no dos and donots. there is no brahmanyam.We have not done justice to our ancesters or Swamiji who dedicated in the altar of the harigurubhakthi for and on behalf of the samaj for morethan sixty years.We are a cursed community finding fault with others and has no introspection. we are ready to judge our gurus and anceasters and doing nothing for others or samaj.Go through the Thirupathi courts judgement of the learned judge and see what it has upheld and understand the Greatness of gurudeve be late than never in this life span.Sashtanga pranams in their lotus feet of kashimath gurdev and parembara

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kartik shenoy, Cochin

It is understood that Shree Raghavendra Tirtha has told that they are willing to hand over the deities to Shree Sudheendra tirtha at Kadapa Court.

The only condition he put was that he shall hand over the deities to the Elder Swamiji and not a third person and If Shree Sudhindra tirtha is not able to come in person, He shall go to where the elder swamiji is staying. However the persons who appeared for the Elder swamiji did not concede this.

Why ? What are they afraid off ?

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Our senior Seer Shrimad Sudhindra Theertha is meek and gentle saint. Few crooked men encashed this opportunity to create a rift between The Senior Seer and The Junior Seer Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha. If at all Shrimad Sudhindra Theertha was little hard, none would have dared to polarise GSB Samaj.People Need not underestimate Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha's capability.It's surely Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha, who holds the whole Samaj united now and even in future.The detractors of this samaj will repent in future and will join the mainstream shortly.

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kartik shenoy, Cochin

Is sansthana dharma copyright of any one person?

What is dharma? If I was in the position of Shree Sudheendra Tirtha, if I could breath, I could see, I had the means that he has now, I would have rushed to Kadapa to charge of deities. Forget Shree Raghavendra Tirtha. He might be a sinner. But the deities that were propitiated for 55 years ? so sacred now in police Custody?

What would you do if your son is jail?

shree Raghavendra tirtha is the absolute responsibility of Shree Sudheendra Tirtha and he cannot get away from that easily.

If he made a mistake in choosing his successor once , what is guarantee that several other mistakes would not have been made?

Choosing a successor is not a joke. There are instances in the history where Acharyas have taken just by looking at the face. That is the Intuitive powers of a true acharya.

So if he made a mistake in choosing Shree Raghavendra Tirtha, Will he be bold enough to admit it?

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kartik shenoy, Cochin

Last weak of October: Shree Sudhindra teertha had broken his shoulder and was hopitalised in a critical state.

Are these GURUS above God?

Why are they bent on putting Veda vyasa under bars?

Why are they not allowing the daily poojas to veda vyasa?

Is this the right way for a GURU ?

It is learned from close qtrs that Shree sudheendra had specifically instructed not to put up any criminal charges against shree raghavendra tirtha. Then why was it done by the so called followers of shree sudheendra tirtha?

Does shree sudheendra tirtha know what is going on ?

Who has seen and tallked with shree sudheendra teertha in the last few days?

Why is that except a handfull number of chosen few are allowed to know about him.

If he is well as claimed , why has not made a single appearance in the public so far ?

When the deities that he had propitiated for 55 years is put in judicial custody?

Yatha raja : tatha prajah
Yatha guru : tatha sishya

This is universal and applies to all and not just Shree Raghavendra tirtha and his followers.

shree sudhindra teertha stated "tangele jatak polounchaku amka nrsingdevak dikkupolo"

What happened then? the Narasimha become too powerful and unbearable for the persons who wants to convert Kashi Math into a TRUST?

DESCIPLES OF KASHI MATH. IT IS HIGHTIME YOU REALIZE WHAT IS GOING ON ELSE SOON SHREE KASHIMATH SAMSTHAN WILL BECOME KASHIMA TRUST AND SWMIJI'S WILL BECOME A MERE POWN IN THE HANDS OF FEW

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pratheek shenoy, mangalore

can anyone pls tel me the real facts n figures which led to the dismissal of ragavendra? Everyone of you talk bullshit without knowing the facts! If any one know s the real deal then pls share..

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Our senior Seer Shrimad Sudhindra Theertha is meek and gentle saint. Few crooked men encashed this opportunity to create a rift between The Senior Seer and The Junior Seer Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha. If at all Shrimad Sudhindra Theertha was little hard, none would have dared to polarise GSB Samaj.People Need not underestimate Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha's capability.It's surely Shrimad Raghavendra Theertha, who holds the whole Samaj united now and even in future.The detractors of this samaj will repent in future and will join the mainstream shortly.

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gopinathapai, purakad

Yes, These coments shows that we the GSBs are above the Kashimath guruparembara and the gurus are shiyas.Look at the samaj and think the present scenario and comment after going through the history of raghava vendra who went to the court and acquired the consequences. Even commented and astonished to note that sishya is filing cases agaist guru.

The future generation will realise who is great and who are gurudrohis and sinners since now itself gsbs are in hell in family, village and society as a whole.No other samaj will speak or comment or even think about a unselfish embodiment of hariguru bhakthi and samaj except the polluted ,decayed perishing samaj including myself which has a past of ancient great brahmin culture in vedic period which is unequivolent in human history.

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janardhan, mangalore

Problems created within GSB by so called rich & influential businessmen and dirty politicians. They enjoyed wealth of Mutt and it is not to be questioned! Now Lord Vedavyasa is behind the bars touched by outsiders - who is to be blamed for this great misery of GSB's. Charity/Dana, Kanike handedover to Guru/swamiji is not to be taken back as per dharma shastra. Howcome these so called protectors of GSB react to this now? Dont they get curse of Vedavyasa and Guruji thru out their life ? let known scholars give their suggessions to this and let us be united together and serve the poor needy indians than fighting for no reason.

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M.S. KAMATH, MANGALORE

M. S. Kamath, Mangalore Tuesday, November 01, 2011
Dear GSB Samaj Bandhu's, There is a saying in Upanishad, that without Gods will even a leaf of grass cannot be moved. What has happened in the past, what is happening in the present or what will happen tomorrow is the will of Almighty. Please accept this statement and for Gods sake stop commenting on Kashimut samsthan issues. Great Guru srimad Vyasa Raghupathi is present in the form of Aradhya diety of mutt to protect our Samaj. What happens in future is his will. Let us altogether pray God for the protection / uplift of our Samaj and also for good health of our beloved Senior swamiji Sri Sri Srimad Sudhindra thirtha.

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SMS,

Swamiji s shishya from a group of eligible candidates who apply and undergo sadhana. It is presumed that Lord comes to his dream and tells him the apt person for the lineage to continue. Does all this mean God has misjudged and made a mistake by choosing the wrong person? Isnt it evident that there are "N" other factor and people who have contributed to defame a person??? We are all educated give it a thought!!!!!

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

Ernakulam Prem nazir, we don't need your advice.There are enough Scholars in this community to solve this matter. Time is not yet ripe. So they are sitting back and viewing your and your diatribes comments. You have simply trespassed into our community wranglings. Regarding your point,"WE HAVE TO CHANGE WITH TIMES" Vedas never allow changes. It is a laid down Rule by GOD. The publication and year of print may change. The contents in it cannot be changed.

That is why we call it Vedantham,which means no further change.You may sit with your community people to bring changes in your religion. Next time DONT DARE TO ADVICE OUR MEN OR TRESSPASS OUR ZONE.

Mumbai M.Bhat,We look forward to your and your diatribe falling in line with us shortly.If You and Your diatribe are really interested in the welfare of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan and Shreemad sudhindra Theertha Swamiji,you come here to Mulki(Mangalore) during SHREEMAD RAGHAVENDRA THEERTHA'S CAMP here.We have many doubts to be cleared by you people. We wish you to speak in Spiritual Plane only and clear all our doubts on Vedas, Upanishads and Puranas.BRING AS MUCH SCHOLARS AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE HAVE WIDE RANGE OF QUESTIONS INCLUDING SUBJECTS OF YOUR INTERSTS.

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sapna,

Hello Pavan, Karkala, by your wordings came to knw tht u r not the follower of Kashi Mutt and u r not GSB, dnt ever speak about our Mutt or GSB or about over God Vyasa Raghupathi, as not only speakng thinking wrongly about this God may lead u to some Bad situation, Vyasa raghupathi Ki Jai, Kashi Mutt Samsthan Ki Jai

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

We should consider some matters in Material plain and some in Spiritual plain.Shreemad Raghavendra Thirtha's matter falls clearly in spiritual plain only. It cannot be argued in Material plain.Every subject has reasearch. When coming to vedas, we may say I am doing reasearch in Vedas.The very word reasearch in vedas is wrong because our Rishis have already experimented,found and established and called it as Vedantha. Antha means no further research.It is the Lord's prescription for how a man should lead his life.Every other subjects have research. You may secure a doctorate on a subject after research. If some one says that innovatively in next 10 years or so and proves it, that new one holds. But in Veda that is impossible . God has already laid rules and none can change it. Though some may proclaim that I have changed it,that is not going to last. Water flows from higher plain to lower plain easily whereas the same water has to be pumped for the reverse process.A permanent solution to this problem is possible only by seeking help of Vedas,Puranas and Upanishads. Our community must enjoy Poojas done to the deity by Shreemad Raghavendra Theertha for the time being and avoid speaking in material plain.

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premnazir, Ernakulam

Dear friends,
At least now try to understand that all these so-called Swamis are frauds who want to enjoy money and women. Good if this fellow is now arrested and the police has got the custody of the old vigrahas which may be worshipped best in some temple. We should not worship men, worship only God. We have to change with times and stop exploitation of unsuspecting believers. God is in our hearts, no middle man is required to make us reach God.

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S.DEEPAK SHENOY, COCHIN

I dont know y the people are getting verymuch interested in mutt's issue rather than their own life. Just leave this matter to GOD.It irritates me when people talk like bhaktha kanakadaaasa. No one is clean here. So lets serve GOD and make our future happier. Why all of us need this politics. Hare Srinivasa Hare venkatesha. Govindaaaa Govinda.......

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Guru is always Guru and we cannot question him for any matter. We have to obey his orders. He is supreme for GSBs those who follows Kashi Muth. Guru is our living GOD. But Guru should not think as if he is the God. He should know GOD is there above him and he is only a rep. This trouble is the PUNISHMENT given by Sri Vyasa Raghupathi for his over all dealings. Raghavendra Thirtha is only NIMITHAM for the punishment. We get what we deserves,for a Guru or for a Grahastha.

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apurv, mumbai

there is no fault of raghavendra swamiji the all has been started by big fools of gsb sabhha kings circle in mumbai they have blackmailed the swamiji and given threat to thrown out to swamilji with a big problem so thats why the raghavendra swamiji has been missed with all gods and rupees ... gsb sabha mumbai is truly responsible for this whole misconception

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

In Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan, Lord Veda Vyas is the presiding deity.Let us adopt HIS way of handling this situation. Atleast He will be convinced of copying HIS style and adopting it in our daily life.Let peace prevail and all remain united as one large family.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

After witnessing a series of events in the history of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan,it is evident that Shrimad Raghavendra Thirtha has underwent lots of headaches from these disgruntled people,though Swamiji has maintained poojas as usual.If these people continue to multiply commotion hereafter,ordinary weak Brethrens will not be able to see the deities or enjoy poojas done to these deities.
In the great Mahabharatha War,Bheesma against Dhristadyumana as commander in chief,Lord Veda Vyasa chose Bheeshma against Bheema in Mahabharatha (See Ch1).Lord Veda Vyasa did so, to project the evils of war. Veda Vyasa wasn't wrong.He considered all options carefully.
Case1: If Bheesma as the Elder person of Kaurava is to be considered,then Yudhistra's name should have been considered for the epic for the Pandavas.Both weren't war mongers.
Case2: If Bheeshma as an archer was to be considered for Kauravas, then he should have chosen Arjuna's Name.Even Arjuna later tried to convince Lord Krishna in his own way against war (Gita Ch-1 &2)
Then why did Lord Veda Vyasa field Bheema against Bheesma in the epic as leaders? The answer is Bheeshma promised that ,he will not kill a single Pandava during war (Silently conveying NO WAR) whereas Bheema promised that he will not spare a single Kaurava in war(Loud declaration). Even in epic, Lord Veda Vyasa was very careful in projecting leadership and the evils of war by showing these two characters in the epic .The media must not engage in seeding war within the community.

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M.Bhat, Mumbai

Many of you have questioned HH Sudhindrathirtha swamijis wisdom in initiation of Raghavendra as his shishya and later abondning him. One need to accept the fact that when Raghjavendra was accepted as shishya he was an innocnet young boy, who later showed his true colours by befriending bad compnay and misused GSB wealth for personal purpose. Is it right ?

What is wrong if HH Sudhindra Thirtha Swamiji abondon such worthless and unfit person instead of as some mocked at us - Howling and parroting RAGHAVENDARTHIRTHA mAHAJA ki Jai? Can he led the community like his earlier swamijis? DOES HE DESERVE SUCH TITLE. iTS NO USE BLAMING SENIOR SWAMJI WHO IS ABOVE THIS AND BEYOUND ANY controversy.

It seems people benifitted by ill gotten wealth of Raghavendra is supporting him. Do have any sence of sham in you?

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kasturi, Kochi

how can U say that soumyaji HH Sudhindra swamiji did not go to his house to plead for the horoscope . When there is a search of ing a shishya I think its the family, or the area members who appraoch to the guru with the jatakas of the eligible boyz. U dont have right to judge HH guru or whosoever called your swami.

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K V Kamath, Mangalore

After witnessing a series of events in the history of Shree Kashi Mutt Samsthan,it is evident that Shrimad Raghavendra Thirtha has underwent lots of headaches from these disgruntled people,though Swamiji has maintained poojas as usual.If these people continue to multiply commotion hereafter,ordinary weak Brethrens will not be able to see the deities or enjoy poojas done to these deities.
Of late,I heard a section of people engaged in debate in local channels.Few people have vent their emotions. The need of the hour is to maintain peace. I don't understand how Shri .Narasimha Acharya jumped into the panel for discussion.By whose inducement did he enter the panel? Channels should engage the appellant and respondent only for discussion.Why seat the rest and register their statements and create tensions within the community? We are already weary.
Even if you consider, the great Mahabharatha War,Bheesma against Dhristadyumana as commander in chief,Lord Veda Vyasa chose Bheeshma against Bheema in Mahabharatha (See Ch1).Lord Veda Vyasa did so, to project the evils of war. Veda Vyasa wasn't wrong.He considered all options carefully.
Case1: If Bheesma as the Elder person of Kaurava is to be considered,then Yudhistra's name should have been considered for the epic for the Pandavas.Both weren't war mongers.
Case2: If Bheeshma as an archer was to be considered for Kauravas, then he should have chosen Arjuna's Name.Even Arjuna later tried to convince Lord Krishna in his own way against war (Gita Ch-1 &2)

Then why did Lord Veda Vyasa field Bheema against Bheesma in the epic as leaders? The answer is Bheeshma promised that ,he will not kill a single Pandava during war (internal meaning NO WAR) whereas Bheema promised that he will not spare a single Kaurava in war. Even in epic, Lord Veda Vyasa was very careful in projecting leadership and the evils of war by . But did the local channel chose shri. Narasimhacharya as panelist.What leadership qualities does he have to speak against Our spiritual Mentor Shrimad Raghavendra Thirtha?Why is the local channel engaged in seeding war within the community? All types of such panel discussions should be banned immediately.

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prema kumar, ambalapuzha

i agree with the comments of soumya shenoi.
sudheendra theertha is the only person responsible for the incidents lead to the arrest of ragavendrathirtha and vyasaregupathi.The entire idols now can be renamed as malayalam rayasom word "THONDI"(articles reccovered from thiefs kept in police/court custody).Now any biological or natural or adoptive father can withdraw his paternity by legal ways as shown by our guru or dismiss thier sons/daughters when they act dislike to father.Thanks to sudheendra thirtha for the script of a high profile drama of adoption disagreement legal battle dismissal and jailing his own shishya.Now the events overplayed the script.Let us wait and see!

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Lakshman Bhakta, Manjeshwar

Dear fellow citizens of Mangalore... if you cannot support us (GSBs) in the matter, no offence, but please do not abuse us...

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R S prabhu, ernakulam

For so many young generation who came after this dispute the mutt is of no importance. we can see the image of other gurus in many house not this two swamijis.

For many it is just bye bye kahi mutt. your days are over. reform or perish

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Mukund Bhat, SanDiego

The first truth about any human being is that he is going to die.True for religious leaders.But every community considers certain things as sacred.The idols of kashimutt untouched except for about twenty swamijis for five centuries are truly the most cherished ,holiest of holy objects .The very thought of them being touched by outsiders makes me sick.

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N Kamath, Bangalore

As Lord Krishna said 'Uddharet aatmanaatmaanam'. Gurus become redundant if your conscience is clear. As Swami Vivekananda said 'Find the God in the poor beside You'.

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Sudharsan Shetty, Mangalore/Bangalore

This is the internal problem of the GSB community between two swamiji and some commentators are bringing yeddy and reddy into this also as they dont have proper knowledge about this. My house was near carstreet in mangalore and i had been venkatramana temple in mangalore with one of my GSB friends to listen to the pravachan of Shrimad Sudhindra theerta swamiji. His pravachan was very good. As per my knowledge.
he is the one of the respected person in Kashimutt

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sheshagiri, udupi

I dont know y the people are getting verymuch interested in mutt's issue rather than their own life. Just leave this matter to GOD.It irritates me when people talk like bhaktha kanakadaaasa. No one is clean here. So lets serve GOD and make our future happier. Why all of us need this politics. Hare Srinivasa Hare venkatesha. Govindaaaa Govinda.......

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Why this Guru, had given certain Duties and Deities of the Muth to the junior, (which should not have done when Guru is alive)? If the Sishya was disobedient to the Guru, Why the Guru was not able to correct the Sishya instead of trying to dismiss him? How he (Guru) was / is able to perform Chathurmasya Vritha etc while Sishya was having all the Deities, conducting regular Poojas, till the date of Arrest? Had any ancestors played such stupid thing in the history of Kashi Muth before this? Do you believe that the Great Guru had to suffer like this and that too on behalf of a mere Sishya, if he (Guru) had served Sri Vyasa Raghupathy sincerely and honestly? If he (Guru) had a divine power with the Grace of Sri Vyasa Raghupathy, will such a tragedy happen to him (Guru) or to the Community? Do you feel that GOD will rescue any one who is cheating some body in the name of GOD? Guru had done so many great things. Driven the Muth in its maximum speed violating all the traffic rules, committing accidents one after another and now Alas Lost own Confidence. All these happened as a result of ignorance, without using self thinking power, forgetting the real path of a Guru Parampara! Now, Sri Vyasa Raghupathy is under Arrest and is believed to be in the police custody with the Sishya! - See how beautifully paved the path by the Guru!! Bringing Sri Vyasa Raghupathy in the safe hands of POLICE! Watch and Enjoy the Rest.

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Venugopal Kamath, Alleppey

Did you know? Sri Vyasa Raghupathy is under Arrest and is believed to be in the police custody with the Raghavendra Theertha. See how beautifully paved the path by the Guru Sudheendra!! Bringing Sri Vyasa Raghupathy in the safe hands of POLICE!
A Very noble deed by the Guru, achieved with hard work, like Bhishma in his Sarasayya.

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Dhkamath, Mangalore

A sanyasi is always a sanyasi. was not swami Vivekanand arrested. Didn't Goutham Budha who is also a sanyasi eat non Veg.
So think, decide then chose your Guru and write only at the end.

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Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

Pavan Karkala, fully agree with your observation.

I always say,it is we give undue importance to religious leaders not to Almighty, the Creator.

I had attended one pooja of GSB community ( forgive if the words are wrong - it is called Katte pooja). The Swami performed the pooja and then advised the community in Konkani language how to be a better citizen. By the outlook, he was low profile priest. I liked his good words as I had participated in that function till the end.

Unfortunately when greed, selfishness, self centreness prevails and money overtakes all the rest, then all sad & bad things are bound to happen.

Always truth, purity will lead to better society. Our thoughts, positive way of life and good goal leads to good society.

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ramesh, mangalore

Then onwards he was on the run avoiding court order.How come sr. swami is responsible his arrest.

Here senior seer I believe is least interested in money matters. those who are accusing corruption etc should know that he has renounced family and all materials things long ago. His only luxury may be an innova car, which I would call less than necessary considering his age and tour program through our bad roads. Swami can not sit at any one place for a long period except during 4 months of chatur masya) .

He is a true spiritual leader. But this raghavendra is just opposite . he wants to swallow the entire math. What guidance we can except from such a fallen soul as a religious head . He him self has shown to his so called followers how to treat a guru. Pathetic people.

Sr.swamiji has nothing to earn from this controversy , except to ensure that kashimath samsthan continue to play its role of spiritual guidance and run by a more competent hand.

Some people are talking about impossibility of taking back manthra deeksha etc. here the question does not arise as dispute is relating to the status of mathadipathi. Hoever he has forfeited his right to call himself as shisya considering his deeds and allegations.

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ramesh, mangalore

I am surprised to see so many people supporting ragavendra. Senior swamji as I know is a man of great patience. Whatever decisions he takes, he takes it after after taking into consideration all aspects and in a peaceful manner and in the best interest of gsb community . Raghvendra’s conduct were not at all appropriate from the very beginning. He was given the administrative charges except the main head quarters. He failed in performing his duties. He has miss appropriated the funds of the math transferring huge sums in his personal account.

He has failed to see the community as one and allowed himself to be played in the hands of internal politics. Senior swamy had nothing to do with this. After receiving so many complaints from across India, senior swamji wanted to sort this out and went to discuss at thirupthy, where ragvendra was camping for a long period (against custom).when he was asked to meet senior guru, he without any respect declined. And one fine morning he has submitted his resignation , which again after much deliberation accepted. After that this fellow approached court seeking to him as mathadipathi. Which is still pending .He has made some very low allegations against our revered guru which I am afraid even to discuss. Those who have read the tirupthy court order knows what it is . Mean while court has directed to handover the deities to senor swamy against which jr. swamy went up to supreme court and failed. contd 1/2

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Pavan, karkala

The biggest problem in the GSB society is the Kashi Mutt. The society just follows the Swami wherever he moves aroud. People donate in the name of Vyasa Raghupathi to the Mutt, and God himself may not know what happened to the money/donation.

The language one uses is rude and abusive. Liek the western word F**k, words such as Bewarshi, Made, Warshik, Mara jallalo, etc have crept in, in the language of day-to-day. No refinement effort by the public nor the Mutt, rather focus is only on the age-old culture or ritual.

I appreciate GSB philapthropists such as Pais of Manipal, Ammembal ASRP, Canara college group etc., Kashi Mutt is just busy in politicking, rituals etc.,

If GSB boys or girls marrying others is a sin, then nobody can help these people's thinking. If one does not do Sandhyavandhana, it need not mean that he is not good boy. As time passed, more and more Gods emerged, where as Oesho,Siva was the earliest one. the culture changed. But tday, I pity that some are still dipped in the age-old, outdated practises such as going behind Swamiji blindly. The fact is that only they are benifitted financially, rest only donates. It is fine to drive the swamiji in a Mercedes Benz car, but culture such as wearing jeans, eating fish or chicken, going to pub is still seen lowly.

Think different, accept changes, refine language and culture, be a good human. these should be the goal, than doing Padapuja, pour money and make the Swamiji follwers rich and rich.

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arun, udupi

You say Sri Sudheendra Theertha was wrong....but Raghavendra was given status as shishya, not to defy the Guru...when a shishya defies the Guru, he is not fit to be called a successor to the Swami still alive. If the guru says jump, shishya has to follow, called following swamiji's foot steps with his blessings. But Raghavendra went against it And he had no right to take the preciding diety of his Guru. He was suppose to RESPECT his guru. Now justice is served !!

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S.DEEPAK SHENOY, COCHIN

Venkatramana Govinda Govinda ! Finally GOD alone gave the justice. wow atlast a sigh of relief

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Manth, kerala

M.Bhatt, Mumbai,
I do not have any love, affection or any type of attachement to any of the Swamy's including Raghavendra. I posted here the facts. If any individual adopts a child, it is his duty to take care and protect him even if he is mischievous. If we once adopt a child, we can't abandon him, even if he is not up to the mark as we expected. Because the jean of that child is different from the adopter. Even children are not same as their own Parents. There may be difference in appearance, character etc. Then how can we expect an adopted child's character to our wishes. If We want successors as we wish, we have to give birth to our own child. Then we can expect 50% success. This is applicable not only to individuals, but also to Swami. One of the surprise is that Raghavendra was adopted at the age of 20, on which his character and personality were known to everyone. A Guru is expected to give advise to the community people for their welfare. He must have patience and must not be greedy. If Swami Sudheendhra theertha can't even give good advise to his Sishya, Then How can he do any good thing to the community? All idols seized by the police is not stolen by him. It was handed over to him by Sudheendra theertha himself. How can he claim the idols back which was already handed over long back? Is it Justifiable? From all this it is clearly understood that the whole problem arises from wealth. Guru who is greedy and fighting for wealth and power is not eligible for guru

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manohar g pai, vaikom

this vaishnava community has always been living with immense faith in GOD ever since it originated. leave the fight between the swamijis to them and follw the sanatana samskara imparted by our great ancestors for our upliftment. in our journey to eternity no one can help but you.

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Girish Kumar, Mangalore

Just imagine, if a swami can steal do you think Yeddy and his gang innocent?

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soumya shenoy, kerala

GURUR BRAHMA,
GURUR VISHNU,
GURUR DEVO MAHESHWARAH
GURUR SAAKSHAAT PARA-BRAHMA,
TASMAI SHRI GURUVE NAMAH

When Sudheendra Theertha had adopted and made Raghavendra theertha swamiji as his shisya , as his horoscope is the ideal one to become the next GURU. But when raghavendra theertha swamiji did not stand by his guru for his bad deeds he became bad in front of others. This is purely selfishness. Sudheendra theertha has spoiled raghavendra theertha swamijis life, family and career by making him his disciple and then leaving him for his bad deeds.

GOD will always be with raghavendra theertha swamiji physically or within them in their hearts as they always did only good to the poor and all. Not like sudheendra theertha who is the SWAMI OF THE RICH.

As a prison house is a prison only to the criminal, but not to the visitor, who goes there on his mission of mercy and charity, so Hell is a place of punishment and pain only to the sinners and not to those who go there on similar missions.

This is the DEED of sudheendra which raghavendra theeertha swamiji happens to go to the jail.

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gyan shenoy, cochin

I truly believe that Samaj need not interfere in the strife between Guru & Sishya. It is their destiny and personal Matter. Like we all have our own destinies, let them solve their differences. mechanism of Love-Hate is very complex and it is better to stay away for our own good and for the good of our future generation.

When one says Guru Drohi the other side can say Sishya Drohi. Where will it end?

I respect both Swamijis as acharyas and Guru staneeyas.

A few years back, when Sahasra Kumbhabhisheka was being held at calicut, Elder Swamiji passed through the city and was expected to visit the ritual by many. However many of the samaja bandhavas where not receptive to this idea. I was fortunate to be with Raghavendra teertha Swamiji and out of curiosity I asked him what he would do if Swamiji comes there. I was truly surprised at his immediate reply. "We would accept him with all the royal honors and provide the highest place he desrves. He is our Guru".

A reply I must say I did not expect at that moment.

That is the day I really respected him.

Every one do have some greatness in them and that is why Shree Vyasa Reghupathy chose to go into his hands.

Let us look at Good in others and make our life a little better upholding the great values our ancestors held.

The greatness is not when we say we are great, But when others say it.

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M.Bhat, Mumabi

gyan shenoy, cochin
you are beating around the bush and misleading the readers here. Donot generalise your personal problems here and attribute it to the society. you have accepted Raghavendra as your Swamiji and heaping praises on him. Kindly note that he is no more a swamiji eversince he was DISSMISSED BY HH SHRIMAN SUDHINDRA THIRTHA. Swamijis are not born but made. A person who has attachemnt to worldy affairs, disobeys his gurus and misleads the community and on run from law enforcement agencies cannot be called a swamiji. according to my knowledge he was surrounded by all kind of people like drunkards, people of low morals, opportunists and dubicious businessmen. Many of those have abonded him after court verdict and have returned to original fold with thier tails tucked in between the legs from behind. It not late if you are one of such person stop criticisng HH sudhindra Swamiji now.
One thing i observed in him was he was totally arrogant rtight from beginning.. If you worship a sinner its your problem not thats of communities.

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gyan shenoy, cochin

Today our girls don't want GSB boy as husband and boy's fancy girls from other communities. The marriage is supposed to be that Vishnu & Mahalakshmi. But soon after Girls turn to become Yakshis or Badra Kalis and Boys turn out to Bairavas or Kinnaras.

Is this what we aspire for or want from our children?

If one takes a round of Bar Hotels in any city, you can find GSB people drinking and eating dead food like pigs.

One wonders the sincerity of these people when they houl "Jai Guru Maharaj"

Even our poojaris are not different. Greed is rampant and overrides true knowledge.

At this rate, Gauda Saraswath Bhramin will have to renamed to Gauda Saraswatha Harami community.

The roots of the community have rotten and we may have to think of replanting it with a "Sudha Gauda Saraswatha Bhramana Samaj".

Or really think of means to bring it back to be worthy of calling Bhramins.

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gyan shenoy, cochin

If we sincerely believe in god and Shree Vyasa Raghupathy, there was reason why "he" went into the hands of H.H.Raghavendra Tirtha Swamiji. The reason only "he" knows.

In the same context, "he" shall go to another hand, "he" has designated and time appropriate time. A time and person as per his wish and not ours.

What is pushed into the throat shall get stuck. Respect the wish of god. He has his own ways. Force, cunnigness or deceit is never a solution, who ever is resorting to it.

What is more important at this moment and age is to preserve in our own homes what our ancestors cherished for thousands of years.

Today how many are worthy of wearing the sacred thread? Drinking , Non veg food, marriage outside the cast (Brashta) is so common, It is difficult to find a pure brahmin in the community. We are too quick to houl Jai guru mahaaraj like parrots. But in his 55 years of leading the samaj, did he ever advice the samaj to take up drinking etc?. Are we doing justice to him in our personal life? Did Raghavendra Teertha swamiji ask any one to follow that path of Mlechas?

Are we following and respecting our own ancestors let alone Gurujis?

How many does daily Sandhya Vandhana? How many does know to recite Gayatri Mantra and do Pranayama correctly?

Does the parents teach their children the values of a brahmin?

Are we truly the disciples of these respected Gurus?

Go into your own lives/homes and look what is happening.

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rk kamath, chennai

People plese understand. Ragahvendra swamiji has not done anythign wrong, except asking some basic questions and rubbing the wrong side of wealthy.

even after he disowned, he still maintained his sanyasa and was performing pooja even till was caught. he didnt sell the ornamaments or the diety in hi posession nor flew abroad.

on the other hand what our sutheendra theertha swamiji did was wrong. you cannot take back the sanyasa given to shri raghavendra swamiji. it could never be justified.

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K V Kamath , Mangalore

Gyan Maam,You have pointed out many issues in brief. But now what should be exposed is suppressed and what is to be suppressed is exposed.How many of our brethrens know our senior seer is not well?How many know who is looking after the seer?Only finger count members have access to the elder seer. Was our seer fed well before bedridden?How many were able to atleast see our seer in the past one month? No Answers.No statistics. How much money has inflowed or gone out? paid how much for what? If seer itself is in few people enclosure, what truth can one expect? Money,Muscle power,Influence ruined our community.Shrimad Raghavendra Thirtha fills the gap well.But that seer too not allowed to function independently by the same arrogant/ignorant people.

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Indian, INDIA

Dear Lydia Lobo, Kadri

I quite agree with you, it depends on the issue, some readers may not digest, otherwise I too state my name & place,

I go through your link, your comment was perfect, unfortunately some readers upset, and I feel because of your name? Circumstances are that much worse in our place, in such scenario if positive comments are able to open people’s eyes and mind will be a is true reward for this discussion, place & name doesn’t make any difference whether you born at India Gate or Kadri Park

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GANESH, MANGALORE

If one has taken deeksha as swamiji, his duty is to obey the GURU swamiji and preach dharma to thier community followers.
sisya Swamiji should not have reacted to few peoples unwanted wishes.
If few people had provked sisya swamiji , then they should have reported to the GURU., instead of acting against GURU.
Sisya swamiji has ended up with Guru Droha.

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DHkamath, Mangalore

All said about HH Sri Raghavendra teertha Swami, have you noticed even now he is wearing kavi and having the dand. he is still practicing sanyas, may be he is wrong legaly and may be not the Guru but there is no doubt that he is a swami, so all of you should give respect consider that while commenting.
Have you noticed :
We have GQ roads because of vajpayee and he loses election.
Karnataka gets good roads and the metro is completed before other states under Yeddyurappa and now he is in jail.
Kashi mutt plans to build a old age home an buys land in Bhagamandala, Coorg , which is a noble cause and you find Raghvendra teertha swami thrown out of mutt.
It seems all good doers have to suffer.

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gyan shenoy, cochin

The episode reminds me of How congress and its might tried to bring down Baba Ramdeva and Anna Hazare. And 90% percent of the Samaj don't know how much the so called "mamus" of the samaj has looted from the Samsthan But just follow them like pide pipers with Gurumaharaj ki jai. The complete list of which is with the younger swamiji and feel threatend.

Speaking of Justice done by god, How many do know that Elder Swamiji visited Cochin Temple to pray for Shapa from his gurus that was told at Prashna in Mumbai? And why is criticaly ill at this very moment when the deities are about to reach him?

We are brahmins and supposed to stick to shastras. Can any one take back the dakshina, Kanika or Daana once given?

Where is shastra and where is hoodwinking?

Can the elder swamiji truly take back what he had given with hastodaka?

think again or refer scriptures and don't make a fool of yourself with emotions.

Saraswath Brahmins existed more than 10000 years and the community still thrives on shashtra and not on wealth and politics. And it should in future too.

No one is above god and his ways are strange. It is high time to introspect why all this is happening instead of blamming each other. The community should learn to think as one instead to groups.

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sneha nayak, mumbai

How many chances are to be given to choose the right path, what if someone is not at all interested in following, u cant risk the faith of the entire community,talking about Raghavendra Swamis career he could have though about his commitment to samaj bandhavas before accepting being a shishya.Correct decisions were made then. He is to blame himself for his dismissal and not our beloved SHRIMAD SUDHINDRA TIRTHA SWAMIJI.WE LOVE OUR SENIOR SWAMIJI AND WILL ALWAYS FOLLOW HIM,bhagwan ke ghar mein der hai par andher nahi, thankyou god.

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M.Bhat, Mumbai

Manth, kerala
you are blinded by your love to this Raghavendra (Ex) sawamiji. Swamijis are not born but adopted by senior Swamiji's from ordinary familirs and imbibed in them religious thoughts etc. Since this Raghavendra lost the respect of the community and senior swamiji he was dismissed as HH successor. He has mismanaged the affairs in the company of selfish and cunning people for which he has paid now. when a person who cannot respect HHSenior swamiji and Court verdict, do you think he is fit to lead a GSB communit? Open your eyes . SATYAMEVA JAYATHE. LONG LIVE GSB COMMNITY.

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adarsh, cochin

But after the death of senior sanyasi sivananda shenoy, will you become the pontiff, sir?

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Indian,

I liked very much what you said. I missed your contribution to a particular news item where I too had said the same thing but it offended many people. The link is as follows for you to recall the discussions.

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=120142

Nevertheless, your name gives an impression that you may have born at the India Gate. If we shed the pseudonymous title, it gives more originality.

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kasturi, Mumbai

Venkatramana Govinda Govinda ! Finally GOD alone gave the justice. wow atlast a sigh of relief.

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Manth, kerala

Sree Sudheendra Theertha Swami adopted Ragahavendra Theertha and made his successor at the age of 20 as his horoscope is the ideal one to become the next GURU. The Senior Swamiji handed over all these idols to Raghavendra. Senior swami acted when a memorandum signed by 112 members of the Gowda Saraswat Brahmin Temples Association in Mangalore, was submitted to Sudhindra Tirtha, questioning his efficiency and religious capabilities in November 1999. How can this be done? Adopting as his successor and abondoning him on somebody's complaint is not fair. If Raghavendra done anything wrong, the Senior swami has to give advise and make him choose the good and right path. Here, he made him his successor and then removed from succession and made Samyameendra Teertha as next Shishya. How can we jusify adopting one person when he likes him and abondoning him when he dislikes?. In short the life of Raghavendra was ruined by Swami Sudheendra Theertha. If Ragavendra may have not been adopted, he may have ed his own career. Hope this does not happens to Samyameendra Teertha. Now we can only wish Samyameendra Teertha BEST OF LUCK and wish Ragavendra BAD LUCK and Congratulations to Swami Sudheendra Theertha.

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Sudharsan Shetty, Mangalore/Bangalore

Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/ Mumbai what about Sheila aunty, chavan, kalmadi uncle and many more to come from your secular kangress party??

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Ranjith, cochin

Dear All,

We are happy to say that still we are keeping Guru Parampara. Teaching lesson to a disrespect & violent Sisya’s (child) behavior to his Guru(Father).
Sathyam Vada Deramam chara-
Among men, each one is himself the cause of his fortune good or bad.
He is himself the builder, the architect, fate, destiny, predetermination,
the Will of Godeveryone of these explanations is
toppled by the principle of Karma.
Guru Pooja Sisyaasya darma:

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mahesh, mangalore

Dear ADS Wasim,Karim etc. This case does not fall under the Dhong Swami bracket.The story runs thus. A teenager was chosen by senior Swami about 20 plus years back ,thinking he is fit to take over the Mutt in due course.The Senior Swami was in his 60's then.Quiet normal to think of a successor.In due course,the Junior Swami is given full charge of the Mutt (the senior Swamiji relinquished power and the par aphelia like the Idols of Gods worshiped,jewelery etc)Unfortunately the new Swamiji rubbed certain powerful people on the wrong side.Also he went against the popular belief amongst the community people that funds of the mutt should be used only for the benefit of the community and not on humanity in general. This may be right or wrong and is debatable.But in the spiritual sense this is right. Rest is history and is reveled here in by some of the readers.

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K V Kamath , Mangalore

Cherthala Rajesh, Shrimad Raghavendra Thirtha Swamiji will be handed over to Karnataka and Kerala Police,at the time Swamiji expresses interest to perform poojas at the temples of the respective states.Till then please wait na.

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sreenivas shenoy, mulki

Mind your business..... We know how to deal with this crook...

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Rajesh, cherthala

Eager to hear the latest news. When is Raghavendra swamiji being handed over to kerala/karnataka police

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Indian, INDIA

it can be happened to any community, but sad part is no one learn the lesson? that most of us donating gifts to Temples, Durgas and Churches are not really taken by so called Idols/God's instead it is indirectly reach to the care takers of that place, but sad part is we Indians stiil donates the gifts and money's to these so called place of worship, we never realise the fact nor we want? we are blind followers of the so clled Swam's, Moulana's or Fathers, we have to blame ourself!

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Tauseef, Mangalore

"Beliye yaddu holawannu meidare kaapaduvaru yarayya..."When somebody throws a stone at a church its the work of drunkards and when such things happen its internal matter?wah re wah...Then who are the culprits in all these issues?The more we ignore the more we shall be ignorant...and people who feel no hue and cry is required here shall one day be themselves the victim of such things and only then shall the realise the intensity of the problems...

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nannu, mangalore

Well said Mr Rajgopal Shenoy. Kashi matt followers could have sorted it out internally. Today every body is responsible for the devine IDOLs to be in the police custudy and for the ugly situation.

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KVKamath, Mangalore

This arrest need not be equated with other arrest,as the observations and judgements including this news report itself stating the "Trouble for Raghavendra Swami started when a memorandum signed by 112 members of the Gowda Saraswat Brahmin Temples Association in Mangalore, was submitted to Sudhindra Tirtha, questioning his efficiency and religious capabilities in November 1999. This forced Raghavendra to request the senior to relieve him from dharmic activities pertaining to some institutions.

The senior swami acceded to his request. However, his followers cited the request as an open expression of religious disabilities and launched a campaign against Raghavendra, which led to his dismissal".Though the mischief was designed by these 100 odd disgruntled and arrogant disciples leading to all types of quarrel within the community,this news need not invite views of common layman as this problem is just misconduct/ ignorance of these 100 odd people.Shrimad Raghavendra Thirtha has no criminal record in ascetic life.Regarding Idols, it was given by The Senior Pontiff Shrimad Sudhindra Thirtha in public function.Let poojas continue status quo without glitches and Swamiji too be allowed to act according to HIS conscience. Swamiji has done the utmost for this community despite hurdles created by these arrogant people.Let God bring change of mindset in these people.Let these people too join the mainstream and think of some creative activities benefitting the society in large.

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Ganesh, Mangaladevi, Mangalore

Compare to reddy, yeddy and others
this nothing.

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L.Bhaskara Prabhu, Ernakulam

Sathyameva Jayathe. This is the internal problem of swamijies and they will sort out the issue. This is nothing related to any politicians, or Samaj Bhanhavs.

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vishnu...,

way 2 go about it sir.. gud reply...

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Rajagopal Shenoy, Bangalore

We are hearing the disputed of both swamijees for past several years, I have heard the contetntions of both followers, Instead of understanding each other and coming to a compromise both fought each other and the situation reached to this level. Most of us don't know what was the real issue and why this dispute arised, So we will continue to be only followers without the knowledge of inner truth.

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Gilson, Vickers

Dear Wolfgang, This case does not come under "Loot and deceive". The person in bews had a difference of opinion which his own communities did not accept. Now that he is on his own and against the court order, few followers still seem to be there with him who have been taking care of his wish, through wealth etc., The belongings of him are only the idols and lowly priced gems which devotees usually denote to decorate the deities etc that does not even equate to one's monthly saving in Germany. You may have mis-interpreted the news due to the fact that the person is on arrest. Every houses in India have more than 10-20 idols in their praying room and it is a norm to pray idols by the Hindus, Jains, Budhists and Christians in India. I am not sure the practises in other countries. We, Indians also erect big statues of Jesus, Mary in the Church or school premises and do respect them. Some miscreants do trouble the public often by creating mischiefs taking the weakness of the public. That is why we are a human race.

Wasim, Althaf,Imran etal. Your generalized statements can only provoke Hindu brothers here. I dont understand your joy. We all have one life, and it is meaningful to spend it for humanity, irrespective of religious minute differences that can bother us.

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Ravi, Mangalore

Jyothi Prabhu, Halady/Bahrain i agree with your comments and also dear commentators you all dont have to worry about this. This is the internal problem of swamiji and they will sort out the issue. This is nothing related to any politicians or political parties.

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Dr.K.V.Mallan, Cochin

The Majority of GSB Community breathed a sigh of relief,on reading the news that “Andhra Police Arrest Raghavendra Tirtha Swamiji, Seize 20 Idols, Cash”, after a long wait of about ten years. Many believe that “This is the God given punishment to Raghavendra, because as per our scriptures, the prime duty of a sishya is to obey the orders of the guru”. In spite of that he used to challenge the authority of the Guru. The Senior Guru respected and loved by the majority, only resorted to prayers for the return of the deities. It is unfortunate that Raghavendra Choose to evade surrender of the Divine deities, in spite of court orders. The fact that the complaint by his neighbours about some clandestine activities has resulted in his arrest supplements the general belief and resulted in comments like “Oh my god. baba log chor nikle?”

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ADS, Kudla

Harsha Malhotra INTERNAL MATTERS IN PUNJAB NOW THIS IS A EXTERNAL PUBLIC ISSUES IN SOUTH INDIA BECASUE LITERATE PEOPLE LIVE HERE. BRIANS ARE SUPERFAST SO THAT LOOT, MURDER, COMMUNAL RIOTS ALL BECOME PRIORITY OF LIFE AND EDUCATION, MORAL BECOME LEAST IMPORTANT IN LIFE AND THE WAY YOU THINK IS THE ROOT CASUE OF THESE PEOPLE TO DO MORE LOOTMAR BECASUE BASED ON YOUR OPINION YOU SUPPORT ALL THESE CORRUPT HEARTLESS POLITICIANS IN GOOD SOCIETY LIKE OURS IN SOUTH INDIA WHEREAS YOU DON'T BELONG HERE NOR YOU ARE NOT PART OF OUR GOOD CULTURE. JUNGLEES LIVE IN JUNGLES

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ADS, Newdelhi

Harsha Malhotra, Mangalore/New
it's internal matter..not required much hue and cry!!!

Mr.Malhotra internal matters is only family in the house. This man is a public looters in the name of God how can be a internal matter? why all call him Swami when such people are worst than terror?

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prakash, mangalore

MAMU,
Good morning after a great evening !! whether internal or external a thief is a thief whether he stole a nutmeg or an elephant !! harsha like Advani I like your never say die attitude !!

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Charles D'Mello, Pangala

Most of the religious leaders are not leaders in real sense. They play political games to take the support of unsuspecting and dumb followers..! There are plenty in the society such supporters and many Religious Leaders enjoy with their innocence... My statement does nor belong to any particular religion...it is applicable to many so called religion....I fail to understand...if God is one why we need so many religions..

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Jyothi Prabhu, Halady/Bahrain

Dear Public,Do not rush to Judge before you know the matter.Raghavendra was given these by our Senoir swamiji but he misused powers hence he was removed from sucession to head the mutt.He was asked to return the Idols,money etc but he ran away as bad company influenced him.Here the matter is not of bogus swamis but how a sishya betrayed his GURU and now is paying for that crime.All done and said all religious institutions have some politics playing there but it is how you view them is important.One goes to Swami"s to seek knowledge and at times when the wrong person is taken as a sishya this is what happens.So dont rush to judge others or HINDU swamis.There are chor in other religions too!

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lukas, malpe

Religious leader are more corrupt than politician in India even in all religion.they are the one now raise voice agaist corruption against politician after making illegul land and money by illegul way.

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Sanjay, Udupi/US

A quick background on this so all our friends from all communities have the right perspective. The GSB Community, who have always loved, revered and worshipped the senior Swamiji Sudheendra Teertha and now his current Shishya Swamiji Samyameendra Teertha of Kashi Math, have prayed and waited patiently for the courts and the legal process to come to its final and expected conclusion for more than 10 years. It was unfortunate that the currently arrested person got influenced by wrong ideas and people and went astray much to the anguish of the Senior Swami and community...leading him to be removed from his responsibilities...which he promptly refused and tried to fight in court..and then hide from the courts once the courts ruled against him.

But it happens in all communities and typically brings the community together and leads to more introspection about our own lives. It is a credit to our court system and law that it has ended the right way. No one is interested in revenge. The only interest that the community has in getting back the revered idols and artifacts of worship that have been with the math for centuries. May God forgive him.

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Ravi, Mangalore

anamika, Mangalore dont comment with knowing any truth. This is nothing related to any political party or politicians. This is the internal problem of swamijis and they will sort it out.

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ravi, ernakulam

what will happen if the third swamiji also does the same u losers .... think and comment dont post rubbish..

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Raj, Udupi

Sad day ...shows how stupid is the senior to arrest the junior & all 30 idols worshiped for hundreds of years. End of d day what he proved ?

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Dr Prakash Harischandra, Mangalore/Galveston

This is a pure Internal Issue of GSB community with two warring factions of Young versus the Old . I think Outside unaware statements is un called for. There was never a rift between the senior seer and his junior on religious issue or his character , its between the elders of the community taking sides. So refraining from the issue is the best action.

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Kannadiga, MLR

I am happy bcoz we r not learning the lessons from the past Babas. By treating these cheaters we are deceiving our real GOD.

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Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/ Mumbai

@Harsha Malhotra, Mangalore/New Delhi.
You are fully right – looting, rape, robbery, mining, de notification is an internal affair.
Nityanand, Ramdev, Anna Hazare, Kejriwal, Bedi, Reddy, Yeddy, Katta……………

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austin, mangalore

Althaf and other readers please exercise restraint while commenting. He is still respected and held in high esteem by the community. This is an internal matter. He has not done any cheating or illegal activities.

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ravindra, mangalore

I concur with Shri Harsh Malhotra.
It is the victory to the GSB community which has unitedly fought for over a decade against the wrongdoings of disowned swamiji and court/police have brought issue to its logical end. Issue does not warrant any comment form those who do not know the HEAD AND TAIL of the incidence.

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Nahmed, Mangalore/Dammam

Mr. Harsha when it comes to you its internal what a joke!!!!!!!!

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kashimutt, thuravoor

chor honge. lekin apnon se loota he.aur sabhi uske saath hi he sirf puja ke liye.tum logon ki tarah apne janmbhumi par atyachar nahii karte

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Ravindra kumar, manipal

I agree with harsha, its purely an internal matter and it is upto court and law of land to take care now. SATYAMEVA JAYATE always.

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vandana, shimoga

an internal matter of a community that requires no external interference

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Kusuma, Nellore

Very sad indeed How can a swamiji who has denounced everything in teh world can behave this way

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Naveen Shetty, Mangalore

The amount of money seized is much more if you go by the pictures. I think police has a cut in the money otherwise the amount on display is more than 10 Lakhs.

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Frank, udupi

Golmaal hai sab Golmaal hai...

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SAYED KALEEM, Udupi/Dubai

What's happening Jai hooooooooooooooooo

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sudhir kumar, kuwait, mangalore

All innocent publics asset / money everything is looted by religious people and politicians who are already behind the bar and some more are expected to be behind the bar shortly.

Public who votes and make politicians to lead should have a power to bring them back to original position.

All arrested people are getting advantage becz. Of Indian law which does not have any end period for making & concluding decisions. Cases can be dragged to the term indefinite without having form decisions by the time decisions are made arrested people can be released easily without having any punishment / prisons.

According to me on the day case is taken to court, end date shall be fixed and decisions shall be made within the stipulated end date.

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HMD, KEPU

Andhra Police Arrest Raghavendra Tirtha Swamiji, Seize 20 Idols, Cash. Weldone police your prompt action in this regard highly appricited. Now careful for Swamiji.

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george, mlore

What is wrong? Let him earn something....

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IMRAN, MANGALORE- SAUDI

NOW PEOPLE STARTED SELLING GOD AND ORNAMENTS OF GOD..!!

Raghavendra Swami will not be a big issue..!! Other swamis example like BABA RAMDEV are making their asset in 50,000 Crores..!!

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Wollf Gang Lindle Baur, Chicago, USA

A country where Gods are looted and smuggled by their own disciples. Poor God a mere spectator.!!! Incredible and Amazing India.

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anamika, Mangalore

Jai Ho Shrimaan Koti Koti Pranaam... no doubt this is UPA conspiracy... " Nee Maayeyo ninnolu maayeyo!!!!, Now corruption became birth right of Indian..

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wasim, udupi/dubai

LOT MORE TO COME, HANG ON HANG ON...

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Harsha Malhotra, Mangalore/New Delhi

it's internal matter..not required much hue and cry!!!

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Althaf, Kaup/Doha

Oh my god. baba log chor nikle

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