Madikeri: Tippu controversy- No scope for personal worship in Islam- Pratap Simha


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Madikeri, Nov 1: “The decision of state government to celebrate Tippu Sultan birth anniversary through the department of Kannada and Culture even though Tippu Sultan had contributed nothing to Kannada language is condemnable,” said Member of Parliament (MP) Pratap Simha.

Speaking to reporters here, Pratap Simha said that the government has prepared to sideline social principles with the celebrations. “There is no scope for personal or idol worship in Islam. Tippu is a symbol of violence. Statewide agitations will be held if the government goes ahead with the celebrations”, Simha warned.

Meanwhile, former MP H Vishwanath speaking to reporters, called for detailed discussions on Tippu Sultan to prevent criticism. “There is scope for all types of celebrations under the constitution. It is not fair to incite people with falsehood. It is a government sponsored anniversary programme,” Vishwanath said.

“It is said that thousands of Kodavas were killed or converted by Tipu Sultan. It is necessary to find out what the population of Kodavas 250 years ago was and what their population now is. In the absence of proper evidence, let there be a forum for discussion on the subject. People should not create confusion by making statements as if they know complete history.” Vishwanath added.

  

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  • Abdul , Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 02 2016

    Ronald D,
    please what about catholic ,catholic belongs to british tell any name of catholic freedom fighter name

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  • shabeer Puttur, Abu Dhabi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Katthale Prapancha Prathapa dont know history of India. Tippu Brought Silk from Persia to India, because of that many farmers are living in posh life in INDIA...

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  • Vincent Rodrigues., Frazer Town,Bangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    MPs and MLAs need to work for the development of the country and the state and not in misguide the public on one religion to other

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  • abdul samad, mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Rajesh, Udupi

    ಆರ್‍ ಎಸ್ ಎಸ್ ಗೆ ಭಯೋತ್ಪದಕ ಗೋಡ್ಸೆ..
    ಅಯ್ಯೊ ಏನು ಕಷ್ಟ ಕಾಲ ಬಂತಪ್ಪೊ....

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  • Ronald D, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Tippu is never a freedom fighter. He was fighting for his caliphate just like ISIS and like minded brutality on other religions!

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  • Pratap Rao, Bangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    I am surprised by the communal response of some of the so called secular Muslims to Tippu's violence on Christians. Tippu of course has positive contributions. But happened to Christians in Mangalore was tragic. There are three clear facts a. Violence was inflicted on Christians by Tippu b. The reason behind the violence was because Tippu believed that Christians were informers to the British rulers. Some people had put this in the ears of Tippu. 3. There was absolutely no evidence to it. Tippu was made to believe that because these were Christians they were close to British. This of course was rubbish. In fact Catholics of Mangalore were more active in the independence movement than other communities. On the other hand even if a few people were informers should Tippu have killed and tortured so many of them? Do we attack an entire community if there are one or two bad apples there? I am not in favour of Tippu Jayanthi. But if the Government has to celebrate I won't have a problem since I will not participate in it. What happened to Mangaloreans also happened to Coorgis. They were also considered informers without much basis. Rather than make harsh and communal comments it would help all to know the history of Tippu

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  • PEACE LOVER, INDIA

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    True !
    "Do we attack an entire community if there are one or two bad apples there?"
    The same applies to Muslims, because of one or two bad apples, you cannot label any community as terrorists !

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  • vasanth, mulki

    Wed, Nov 02 2016

    we already d that there is no religion for terrorist or terrorism. so don't label terrorism for any one religion or community. it is your mistake.

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    SEE THE IRONY, AFTER BUYING TIPPU SWORD VIJAY MALLYA BECAME BANKRUPT AND RAN AWAY SAME PLACE WHERE HE BUYED THE SWORD!!!!

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  • Satya, Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    It was only after the first war of independence in 1857 that a semblance of an idea of India originated. No ruler or king prior to that has done anything for our nationhood and each one was only fighting for himself and his domain. This includes all kings and emperors from Ashoka, Harsha, Chandragupta, Akbar, Tipu, Shivaji etc etc and therefore no celebrations should be held in memory of any of these entities.

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  • Ronald D, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Tippu had tortured all Catholics of Mangalore. He drove 85,000 people to Srirangapatna. On the way his soldiers killed youth, disfigured those tried to oppose or flee, raped women and girls, later distributed them to his soldiers and officers. After he was killed in 1799 only 15,000 Mangalore Christians returned back. And now Tippu Jayanthi for vote bank! Many calling him a Hero???? Refer history for more details on his torture to Mangalore Catholics!! Vote ke liye kuch bhee karega???

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  • Peter, KSA

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    There should not be jayanti for a man who killed so many innocent Indians for a religion. He is not worthy to be respected. JAI HIND.

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  • Mohammed, Kundapur/Qatar

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Paper Simha, I agree with your Statement...
    But Why don't you teach your Own SANGHIS that Eating Beef is allowed as per your Culture and request them to Stop killing each other in the Name of COW...
    More than ISLAM you better learn your Own Scriptures...

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Tippu is nothing but an headache to Britishers...!!!

    All previous rulers / Kings fought war for their own benefits, just like the present politicians.....

    I just want to know, how he is died??? Is anyone betrayed him???
    His own firangi...???

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  • PEACE LOVER, INDIA

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    People of India DO NOT REQUIRE any Jayanti, abolish all Jayantis, Building of statues worth crores, spend this money for providing food, shelter and education to the poor.

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  • Kiran, Mukka

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    True no idol or personnel worship in Islam. Muslims are not celebrating Tippu Jayanti. It's celebrating as the other Jayantis I guess. Gandhi Jayanti Nehru Jayanti etc. Then why this halla gulla? Mr. Vishwanath is right I guess. Mr. Pratap Simha has to read & understand Indian history properly.
    all M.P. & MLAs should leave all this propaganda & give their 100% to the betterment of the citizens.

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    WHAT PRATAP SIMHA TOLD ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, HE WAS A MASS MURDERER OF HINDUS AND CHRISTIANS , FOR VOTE BANK THE CURRENT CHOR GOVERNMENT IS GLORIFYING THIS ISSUE....

    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SHAME TO GLORIFY A PERSON WHO DID NOTHING TO KANNADIGAS AND HE WAS THE MASTER OF CONVERSIONS.....66

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  • masif, Jubail

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    ಅಮೆರಿಕಾದ ನಾಸವು ಟಿಪ್ಪುವಿನ ಅಂದಿನ ಅತ್ಯಾಧುನಿಕ ಯುದ್ದ ಆಯುದ್ದಗಳಿಂದಾಗಿ ಇಂದಿಗೂ ಅವರ ಫೋಟೋ ವನ್ನು ನಾಸದಲ್ಲಿ ಇಡಲಾಗಿದೆ.

    ಟಿಪ್ಪುವಿನ ನೆನಪಿಗಾಗಿ ರೋಲ್ಸ್ ರೋಯ್ಸ್ ಎನ್ನುವ ಬ್ರಿಟಿಷ್ ಕಂಪನೀ ಅವನ ಹೆಸರಲ್ಲಿ ಅತ್ಯಾಧುನಿಕ ಕಾರನ್ನು ಬಿಡುಗಡೆ ಮಾಡಿತ್ತು.

    ಆದರೆ ನಮ್ಮ ರಾಜ್ಯದಲ್ಲಿ ಟಿಪ್ಪುವಿನ ಅವಹೇಳನ ಮಾಡುದರಲ್ಲಿ ಸಂತೋಷ ಪಡುತಿದ್ದೇವೆ ಮತ್ತು ಸಣ್ಣ ತನವನ್ನು ತೋರಿಸುತಿದ್ದೇವೆ ನಮಲ್ಲಿರುವ ಕೋಮುವಾದದ ಮನಸ್ತಿತಿ ಯಿಂದಾಗಿ.

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  • ABDUL RAFIQ, UCHILA

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    When he became Islamic scholar???

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  • MY SOUL MY INDIA, Shantibagh..

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    ಈ ಸಿಂಹವು ಹಲ್ಲು ಮತ್ತು ಉಗುರನ್ನು ಕಳೆದುಕೊಂಡಿದೆ ..ಆತಂಕ ಪಡುವ ಅಗತ್ಯವೇನು ಇಲ್ಲ ... ಜೈ ಹಿಂದ್

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  • Peter , Bangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Simply Paper Simha.

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  • Don, Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    When ever innocents are killed their blood will cry out to the Lord.

    If a person like Tipu is being glorified today, then our morality and a sense of justice is now becoming questionable. Very sad.

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  • Rajesh, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    After Hyderali snatched mysore kingdom from Odeyar, one party aligned with French, another aligned with British. and both party had the intention to retain Mysore with them.. they had no botheration who will rule Delhi among French or British.. their narrow minded vision was only around Mysore.

    Simple mathematics. now tell me how one party siding with French became patriot just for fighting against british?

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  • raghavendra m k, mumbai maharasthra

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Tiger tippu was fought against British empire with strong military and modern equipment invented that time. TOPU fire bomb invented that time had nucleus power was a new weapon. even British never expected. Abdul Kalam our nuclear scientist once stated that beginning of nucleus science was developed in Tipu's era. Let us think the merits of Mysore's tiger instead of communalising the issue. Even Vijay mallya brought his golden sword from Briton as a prestige to our country. I request readers not to see the all things in religious way.

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  • Mohan, Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    But he sided with French.

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  • raghavendra m k, mumbai maharasthra

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    It is British who invaded us and ruled our country. So fight has to be with British to stop further expansion of the territory and rightly resisted by Tipu. Tipus's siding with French is irrelevant.

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  • Rajesh, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    utter nonsence to say that siding with French is ok.. they were eyeing to rule India just like british.. if lets say Frenc ruled india as per Tipus wish, india woud have been yet another africal country.. In a way British were far more humane than brutal French

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 02 2016

    Raghavendra, sorry to say, all utter non sense.
    Fire power, he did not invent. Purchased from French.
    His overall deeds were disastrous. Equal to ISIS.
    To credit with someone overall merits should out number demerits.
    His is far far opposite.

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  • John D'Souza, Mumbai

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai
    "Then stop glorifying Veer Savarkar & Bhagat Singh ..."

    Please STOP embarrassing and making a fool of yourself. If you have no knowledge of how Tipu forced your ancestors into slavery and ended killing an estimated 40,000 innocent Mangalorean Catholics, then refrain from commenting.

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  • shaan, manglore/dubai

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Tippu given tough punishment who loyal to British & who are against his kingdom, either Christian,Hindu,Muslim..this is what history of every King...but your statics based on wrong innovation written by TIPPU enemy Britsh & Sanga Parivar...

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  • masif, Jubail

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    ರವರೆ ಸುಳ್ಳು ಆಪಾದನೆ ಮಾಡುವುದು ಮೊದಲು ನಿಲ್ಲಿಸಿ, 2011 ರಲ್ಲಿ ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ 3 ಲಕ್ಷ ಕ್ರಿಸ್ಚಿಯನ್ ಜನಸಂಖ್ಯಾ ಇರುದದಾರೆ, 1770 ರಲ್ಲಿ 40 ಸಾವಿರ ಮಂಗಳೂರು ಕ್ರಿಸ್ಟಿಯನ್ ಇರಾಲು ಸಾದ್ಯವೇ???

    ಮಂಗಳೂರು ಕ್ರಿಸ್ಟಿಯನ್ ಕೊಂದಿದ್ದು ಹೌದು ಅದು ಬ್ರಿಟಿಷರೊಂದಿಗೆ ಸೇರಿ ಸರ್ಕಾರದ ವಿರುದ್ದ ಷಡ್ಯಂತರ ಮಾಡುತಿದ್ದಾರೆ ಎನ್ನುವ ಕಾರಣಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ವಿನ ಕ್ರಿಸ್ಟಿಯನ್ ರು ಎನ್ನುವ ಕಾರಣಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ಅಲ್ಲಾ.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Then stop glorifying Veer Savarkar & Bhagat Singh ...

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  • RonRon, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Hey..Jossey, do you know how Tipu handled canara Christians!!!!
    Disgrace man!!!! disgrace....

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  • Shabeer Ahmed, M'lore-Dmm

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    There's no chance of Tippu killing christians based on religion. Yes but there is a chance if they were the puppets and working as per the british tune plotting against Indians. These british can misguide the people by mentioning opposite of the fact.

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  • Dev Kumar, Mangalore/New Delhi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Dear pratap...
    Whatever they do against religion.
    Not to involve in drugs. Afghanistan's national economy of it.
    Not to watch films. All there khans not only watching films but acting also.
    Not to worship any b'days/anniversaries are doing the same.
    Not to involved in music...are doing dancing of there own.
    Latter on.these people ask why you people worship creator's creation.
    Bhayyas/Bhainis..we are happy as concerned with others. Had told us to give respect to each and everything. We learn not to chop hands of professor or slap principal..which is absent.from your end.

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  • shaan, manglore/dubai

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Tippu is man of king in part of Indian Independence. ..open page of history he defends his land in any cost ( pledged hie own children & died in battle filed) he is not only taken action kodava, british loyalty Christian, even H'bad nizams & malabar maplilas...this was Raja'Pasion to take action for his wisdom..
    finally we have to tribute TIPPU in this Day because the wide of Karnataka build by TIPPU...we salute & Proud we are part of his land...Jai Karnataka..

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  • Rajesh, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    pledged hie own children ??

    someone who wans to retain the kingdom at the cost of pledging his own kids - is this sacrifice or selfishness? someone who wanted French to rule india and not british is patriot ?

    History can be written to owns convenience.. but the facts to remain and they don't corroborate what the bogus historians say

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  • shaan, manglore/dubai

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Shivaji defends & Fighted Marti land and he is hero for them & same way Tippu Fighted for mysore land his name still controversial ..why you people tell we opposing because of hei religion ..

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  • FARHAN , UDUPI

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Dear Mr.Rajesh,Udupi.

    As per your logic subhas chandra bose who seek the help of Nazi Germany wanted germans to rule in india not british. Tippu had a war against all loyal to british whether it is nizams or christians. it was not about religion.

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  • Rajesh, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    shaan, manglore/Dubai

    Shivaji cannot be confined to Marathi but a hindu king against every invader.... Even if you confine him to Marathi, that logic won't apply to Tipu.. as he was never for Kannada and instead put Urdu as official language... in a way he tried to downgrade Kannada... so why we have to celebrate someone just because his kingdom lies in Karnataka but his brutality is also witnessed in Karnataka???

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Firget Tippu.....I am not surprised if khangress celebrate kasab jayanti for vote bank politics...

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  • shaan, manglore/dubai

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    Godse jayanthi??!

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  • mohan, mangalore

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    First in history Hyder was a robber. He used to rob and kill the people in initial stage. Those days killers and robbers are called as kings. to stop the harrasment to villages Odyar gave some villages to control. But he continue to rob the temples and kill people. this is the real story of hyder

    and tippu almost all knows that he is a terrorist.

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  • masif, Jubail

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    New story lo lo lo

    No medicine for Jealous

    Haydarali was a powerful military commander, Odeyar gave some villages to control like prantya Rajya (King).

    Hydarali founder of Lalbag park at bangaluru and Tippu Sultan was complete it.

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  • shaan, manglore/dubai

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    shivaji followers peshe are is robbery of shingeri mat>> go and ask singeri mat swamiji...what tippu did save singeri mat..

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  • TTS, Kadri

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    ಬ್ರಿಟಿಷರ ವಿರುದ್ಧ ದೇಶಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ಹೋರಾಡಿದವರ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಬ್ರಿಟಿಷರ ಗುಲಾಮರಿಂದ ಟೀಕೆ????? ಅಯ್ಯೋ ಏನು ಕಷ್ಟ ಕಾಲ ಬಂತಪ್ಪೋ.......... ಇವರಿಗೆ ಗೋಡ್ಸೆ ಜಯಂತಿ ಮಾಡಬೇಕಿತ್ತೋ ಏನೋ....

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  • Rajesh, Udupi

    Tue, Nov 01 2016

    ಫ್ರೆಂಚರಿಗೆ ದೆಹಲಿ ತನಗೆ ಮೈಸೂರ್... ಬ್ರಿಟಿಷರು ಬೇಡ..

    ಈ ಪಾಲಿಸಿ ದೇಶಭಕ್ತಿ? ಏನು ಕಾಲ ಬಂತಪ್ಪೋ.. ಇವರಿಗೆ ಗಜನಿ ಘೋರಿ ಸಹ ಹೀರೋ ?

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