Nothing wrong with reverse conversions, says Shiv Sena


Mumbai, Dec 22 (PTI): Shiv Sena today said that there's nothing wrong with reverse conversions and flayed "those who kept mum when Hindus were converted to Muslims."

"Till yesterday, Hindus were converted to Muslims. Then, nobody said those were done forcibly or through enticement. But now when the Ganga has started flowing in reverse, the pseudo secularists are saying the conversions are not right," an editorial in Sena mouthpiece 'Saamana' said.

"What do all these "secular" people have to say about forcible conversion of Hindus to Muslims during mogul rule and to Christians under British and Portuguese regimes," Sena said.

"It looks like a big section of BJP favours conversions but they are in a quandary as their party has government in Centre and Maharashtra," it said.

The Sena also supported UP Governor Ram Naik over his demand that Ram temple should be built at Ayodhya soon.

"All over the world, conversions take place, through sword (force) or money. Hindus don't have either sword or money. Despite this Hindu organisations are undertaking the important work of reconverting those who had gone to other faiths," Sena said.

RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat and VHP leader Pravin Togadia have welcomed such reconversion, it said.

"It should be taken into consideration if the Modi government could face problems due to this programme initiated by Hindu organisations on their own."

"We read somewhere that Modi has reprimanded some people, asking them to maintain restraint and speak carefully."

"So, there is doubt in everyone's minds if the conversion movement now underway in name of Hindutva really has the government's backing," the Sena said.

  

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Dec 24 2014

    Reverse Conversions would be a big blow to Non Catholics because even duffers know that we are descendents of Adam & Eve ...

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Can i keep looking at you to see the creator? May be you will take me to mental hospital or police station :)

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  • fayaz, DXB

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Masha Allah Rajesh, You have just qouated what Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) earlier.

    The Prophet salallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said: None of you will believe until you love for your brother what you love for yourself. [Bukharee]
    .This is why read Quran , and Act On it....Its a true guideline from our creator, Unfortunately many dont read quran/dont act on it.

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  • fayaz, DXB

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Pray to the creator not the creation.

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  • marol, udupi

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    See the creator in the creation.

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  • fayaz, DXB

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Yes. See the creator in the creation(if visible) . But pray only to the CREATOR.

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  • bharat, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Why do we have to pray?. Is the creator insecure ?

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  • marol, udupi

    Wed, Dec 24 2014

    What is prayer???

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  • JD, Udupi

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    When the Ghar Vaapasi of Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi and Najma Heptullah will be held?

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  • marol, udupi

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Vomiting venom of RELIGIOUS HATEREDNESS in the name of reconversion. It is really the poison which destroys each and every one of us by destroying THE HUMANNESS which suppose to be preached and practiced by each and every member of every religion. Thank you and God bless each and every one of us. Let us live and love practicing HUMAN RELIGION in public and let us keep all other religions confined within the walls of each one of our houses.

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  • marol, udupi

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Ache din, nirmal Bharat, development buried under and gatar of reconversion started. Population increasing very fast, so many poor people, deadly diseases, no proper roads, polution, lack of resources - steps need to be taken to solve these problems. Otherwise all of us have to face not conversion but destruction of all. Thank you and God bless each one of us.

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  • Oliver, Mangaluru

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    100% agree with you Denzil Dsa, Mangalore :)

    Let all of them convert, if they wish. What is wrong. I too happy with my religion and belief.

    One fine day they will come to know, no one can convert by paying money. By that time poor people might have made some money for their daily bread. be it a Chirstian, Muslim or Hindu :)


    Regards,
    Oliver

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  • juliana, udupi

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Why complicate life in the name of religion? Every body has some purpose in life and if it is socially accepted, will live long and if not perish which is depicted through their behavior. Instead of helping the poor in the name of religion, these people can do some good to the society by uplifting their way of life without the name of religion.

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  • Jessy , uae

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    I would be very happy if whole India made Ghar vapsi.Because we are five in the family and will get 25 lakhs.Afterwards who cares whom I pray?I can go abroad and attend the prayer service whatever religion I am practicing from my heart.(its a joke)For me I'll pray that I won't deny my saviour who bled and died for our sins and is living for ever.

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  • Shiv, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Jesse, your forefather was also happy just like you when he accepted the money to become a Christian. It must be in your gene's.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Shiv,
    If that is the case according to you why does the RSS want those people to do a Ghar Vapasi conversion ? Let them be the way they are.

    BTW if you spit in the wind it comes back on your face.

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  • Judith L, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Shiv don't blabber unless you know history how can you say we converted for money most of the catholics who were converted were mostly zamindars,merchants and even brahmins so we had enough cash that time and now also to sustain and as a community we are not dependent on your char annas. our ancestors have done a right to convert they must have been tired about sati, dowry system, girl infanticide, child sacrifices and had a belief of eternal life and in the living God. it is the hare rama krishna dam maro dam which is converting foreigner for drugs , etc.

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  • Judith L, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    big joke from the 5 lacs the fanatics will give only char annas to the ghar wapasi this is a new money making tactic by the liquor barons. just today I saw a middle age hindu lady screeming to a small beggar girl dare you come near my house they cannot treat thier own ppl with love and they want to invite others this shows their cheap hypocratic mentality

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  • jess, uae

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    During the avatar were you there?

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    These C.. Sanghis need to start ghar wapsi for their muslim and christian leaders first.

    I am sure Mukthar Abbas, Shahnawas Hussain, najma heptulla and Franklin Monteiro start bhajans.

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  • j.anata, Mangaluru / Bengaluru

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Do you want to join?

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Whoever wants to come they will come by their own wish..you dont worry.

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  • Albert, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Enough of mud throwing! I feel all conversion, re-conversion should be banned. It is a pity to watch what is happening in the name of ghar vapasi to Hinduism in Gujarat,silent luring of tribals in North east, Orissa, MP by Christain missionaries and Love jihad as a Islamic conversion factories of Ponnani and Malappuraum!! Humanity is defeated in the name of religion. It is the time to ban all religious heads like Hindu saints, Christian preiest and nuns and muslim Mullahas etc.They mislead the poor people in the name of GOD!
    God has sent us to work in good path and no need to take care of him as he is supreme of all!!
    So if any body slowly and silettly try to lure you or force you by showing Bible, Gita or Quran, just slap them!!

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    What you are telling is somewhat true that the Hindu kings and rich people have donated in many cases for the Christian missionary hospitals and schools to start those institutions.

    In our local village, the royal Hindu family donated property for the Church Missionary School, and they sent their children exclusively to the CMS school, even though there was a Government school. Why? The royal family was sure that their children will get good education and some moral instruction in a Christian school. The head of that family, we used to call him "Chithira thirumeni" used to attend many Christian functions, he did everything to help the Christians. In our village the Christian/Hindu population was 50/50. He was never converted openly to Christianity but was very close to the Christian community.

    You may know many converted Christians, how many of them are terrorists and criminals after their conversion when compared with the rest of the population? If the converted people to Christian faith are turning like terrorists and destroying the society, then you should fight for the "anti-conversion" laws.

    Please go to the google search engine and see the Hindu converts to Christian faith, the many big names of the movie and business world. If they can change their religious faith, but the government is blocking the poor sections of the society in their religious convictions to change their worship of a different religious deity, that is total autocracy.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Sir, once upon a time, most of Indians wanted their kids to be foreign educated, OXford return! Jawahar lal nehru or Gandhiji or barrister Jinnah , the only way to get higher education was "abroad" and with british grace! hence the landlords invited Missionaries and gave away land or most of them even converted to christianity for a white collared job or for church land to be given to them!! ... when the less unfortunates like a Dalit Ambedkar, had to study, he had prove he was deserving and take help of Gaekwads of Baroda a upper catse maratha ruler, who patronised him and sent him to NEw york for studies!... ur birth, was not important there! so, if you see, all freedom fighters who ruined our freedom fight were all hand in glove with british!

    seconldy, if you get a chance do read Swami Vivekananda life history.. when he was travelling,to California for 1893 summit, a incidence happens.. Two Christian missionaries lost their tempers & savagely criticized Hindu religion in debating with Swami Vivekananda. What did Swami do? All were traveling in a boat. Swami seized him by collar, told menacingly, 'If you abuse my religion again, I will throw you overboard.' The frightened missionary said 'Let me go, sir,' the frightened missionary apologized 'I'll never do it again.' .. if Swami Vivekananda had to go thorugh such experience, how will normal people cope up!?? ...

    Vivekananda had warned against conversions. He said, "Every man going out of the Hindu pale is not only a man less, but an enemy the more." I am not against any religion. But I am hostile to the Christian missionaries in India, said Vivekananda..... So, just to put things in perspective!! since Swamiji didnt take British help in education, he Didnt fear much..

    having said this I no way condemn "Jesus Christ" or the religion he professed... I am only against commercialisation these "Harvesters do".. proselytising is an industry and they target such theird world country and want to heal our poor souls!

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  • Vayudha, mangalore

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Mathew Sir, with due respect. I see a different perspective here. If the Royal family donated property and engaged in the missionary celebrations, it should show that they did not differentiate between being Hindu or Christian. I think their Hindu though process of 'god is one' was fantastic in your example. The missionary intent was to 'harvest the souls' eventually. Tell me, if the locals were not converted to their fold This is the same idealogy that the hindus of South canara had when the missionaries got in in the 1500's. The missionaries agenda is clear and if you don't see it then you are clouded. However, I do see that you are all exicted that someone else is converting into your faith. Not sure what that pleasure does for you. Do you see comfort in 'numbers'?. Is spirituality a number game for you. If Jesus is a god for all , then why do Christians think that they own him. I would say leave Jesus alone and mind your business.

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  • Valerian D Souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    People, do not bother much to these conversions and re-conversions issues.
    This is purely political game of VHP & RSS with the support of BJP on the helm of affairs.
    Had they gave due care to the needy, nobody would have left their faith!
    Let them do what they want, re-converters will again forget and ignore those whom they bring back, like they did throughout the history.
    Faith is ones personal choice. if converting was wrong, reconverting will also be a BIG futile exercise.

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  • Ranjith, udupi

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    So if a "Umar" gets reverse converted to hindu religion, then his name also will become reverse converted to "Ramu"?

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    dear ramseh s, every living creature on earth dies after its time. Fire will extinguish, sea can erode, plants will die, animals will die, humans will die, we see all the creatures die in front of our eyes. So what do you think you are worshiping.?

    Are all these illogical for you?
    How come sun and moon is unknown. its known for everyone.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    This religious friction in India will be creating something supernatural in the days to come.

    Those Hindus who got educated in the Christian schools and colleges, those Hindus who felt an ounce of Christian love and compassion while they got medical treatment in any good Christian hospitals, even though they are keeping silent, but in due time they are going to speak about against all these unnecessary outburst with relation to "conversion".

    The politicians used "Hindu" religion as a spade card, and now another detour will be taking place due to the religious card game.

    Hinduism is not a religion but a way of life. I have seen the picture of JESUS CHRIST in many Hindu homes. JESUS CHRIST IS LIVING TODAY AND THEY WILL FIND THAT NEW REALITY WHILE LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, AND THE OLD MEMORIES OF THE SCHOOL DAYS AT THE CHRISTIAN HOSPITALS WILL ALERT THEM NOW WITH A NEW CHALLENGE TO TAKE A PROPER STAND FOR THE RIGHT CAUSE.

    MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    sir, aap toh yahin shuru ho gaye, to harvest my soul! LoL.. merry christmas to you... :)

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Sir, your Hindi-English is hard for me to understand. If you can write in English, that will be greatly appreciated.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Sir, you were hugging those downtrodden in Kolata, by speaking in english is it? You dont relate to Rajbhasha of HINDI! and how can you call yourself Indian and savior of the masses,sir? but anyways, I will write in English henceforth.. :) ..so , how is the snow in your region of US!

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  • Vayudha, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Mr. Mathew, I would like to point out that the schools and hospitals are run by the missionaries but it was the Hindus who provided the land and the money for it. The agenda of the missionary is to get into the thick of society in the guise of education, health and help and process souls for harvesting. There is nothing wrong with Jesus, it is the Christians and their zeal to proselytize that is being hurt. What is wrong in making forceful conversion a crime. Why is it only the missionaries are affected with it. We have to end this conversion and missionary work. Going forward the government or the citizen of India will start education institutions and hospitals. The missionaries can work there if they want to help without any right to the asset or right to state that 'they' provided education and health to the people.
    If Jesus lives, good for him. I am sure the Christians have killed him several times.

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  • STK, Dubai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear Ramesh & Morel,
    U R Right All r deviated from faith, I am not Comparing any religion ...All religion teaches goodness...because of some foolish,selfish people community gets bad name...My appeal is simple and state forward..
    Because of some politician and goondas society get worse...please don't put oil in the fire because violence will spread and it will effect innocent peoples of the society....
    If the person from any religion makes crime don't try to save him...we all should unite to fight against those evil from our society irrespective of religion..

    Thank you....

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear, killing of innocent is regarding humans killed by another human wihtout any valid reason.
    And your question is good. killing of an animal for food is ok otherwise its also a crime. if you are aware that killing of calf, milk producing animals is also prohibited.

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  • vincent rodrigues, 43/1 promenade road,frazer town,b'lore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Any conversion is wrong and illegal if it is without the concent of the person proposed to convert.

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    U will get translation of all books in any language read and understand

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    I am curious to know what is the contribution of RSS, SS, BD, HJV, VHP for obc,sc,st upliftment?

    Who are they to call themselves as saviours of Hindus. When their track record is against these people. They dont even support reservation for obc/sc/st.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    NM, dont worry about them..atleast these can follow religion,earn,live..you take care about your weaker sects..look at them,poor people..cant practices their faith, dont know when they are killed..cant go anywhere,

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    N.M, Mangalore..When one Hyderabadi 15 minute specialist want to smash 80 cr people including lower..upper..left ..right we need someone to save us!!because we know pseudo seculars never come for rescue!

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    everybody supports reservation to SC/ST, for the treatment meted out to them!... and it is also a weapon used against "conversion"! the moment they go to any other religion, talking of class bias, they will cease to have that "dalit Status"!! ... "religious resevationS" are not leagl under our constituion!!... today SC/STs are luckiest, that they have all the best facilities, nO fees, or less fees for education, seats resevrved for studies and jobs in public sector!... lot has been done for their upliftment, THANKS TO B R AMBEDKAR! COngress just defeated him in elections and never let him a be a law maker, thanks to Jawahar's jealousy!!

    Jawahar lal is called "PANDIT" ..whereas highly qualified BRAmbedkar was not even called that!...

    why opposing resevration? well, otherwise, muslims who have been rulers in this land, or christains in this land will also ask for reservations! and it was proposed by congress YSR, TRS and all.. but constituional hurdle wont let that happen!... all OBC caste leaders, like Siddu, Lalu themselves dont want to give "OLa eesalati".. from allotted OBC resevations to muslims? why? why create a new resevarion pattern, which is unconstituional? ...

    Yes, after sometime, reservations should go off! But now is NOT the time.. and also it is also not a time, to introduced new reservations!

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    And BJP has made records in choosing their leaders, without caste reservations!! when a party president was not even heard of, they made a Dalit sit there!... take all leaders, the most are OBC, backward or Dalits in BJP!! ... women, backwards, dalits are equally represented in CM, cabinet and everywhere .... and a commonetr can to raise to that level!

    if at all in future this country sees a Muslim PM, that would be ONLY from a fold of BJP kind of parties!! rest all want to use muslim votes, and serve their own family!

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  • pradeep, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Bouncer !

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  • STK, Dubai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear All,
    Islam is a religion of peace, Terrorists are not Muslims, name is not enough to be a Muslim,you should follow hadith and quran,if any muslim does terrorists act that doesn't mean that all Muslims are terrorist..suppose if any one rapes a girl...are u considering his whole community as rapist...No Right...

    My humble request to all my brothers if have any doubts go and read quran...u will not find any verses of quran which quotes violence.....Please don't spread communal violence ...Live Happily and let others....

    Thanks... u r true brother

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  • marol, udupi

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Basically all religions are preaching goodness and brotherhood at the core. Therefore it is wrong to go for comparison and competition of religions. The duty of each one of us is to live our religion to the possible perfection and stop fighting and trying putting down other religion. Religious harmony is the need of the hour.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    STK, not to offend you..but your comments itself reveals the present reality..i read same type of comments time & again,from my brothers because they know some where they are deviated from core of the faith..thats every time they have to justify..

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  • STK, Dubai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear Ramesh & Morel,
    U R Right All r deviated from faith, I am not Comparing any religion ...All religion teaches goodness...because of some foolish,selfish people community gets bad name...My appeal is simple and state forward..
    Because of some politician and goondas society get worse...please don't put oil in the fire because violence will spread and it will effect innocent peoples of the society....
    If the person from any religion makes crime don't try to save him...we all should unite to fight against those evil from our society irrespective of religion..

    Thank you....

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  • Rima, Mangalore/Riyadh

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    ಈ ಮತಾಂತರದ ಮೂಲಕ ತಾನು ಕೊಡುವ ಆ ಲೌಕಿಕ ಲಾಭವಾದರೂ ಏನು ಎನ್ನುವುದನ್ನು ವಿವರಿಸುವಲ್ಲಿ ಸಂಘ ಪರಿವಾರ ಸೋತಿದೆ. ಈ ದೇಶದಲ್ಲಿ ಬ್ರಾಹ್ಮಣರಿದ್ದಾರೆ, ಬನಿಯಾಗಳಿದ್ದಾರೆ, ಶೆಟ್ಟರಿದ್ದಾರೆ, ಸಿಂಧಿಗಳಿದ್ದಾರೆ, ಪೂಜಾರಿಗಳಿದ್ದಾರೆ, ಮಾದಿಗರಾದಿಯಾಗಿ ದಲಿತರಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಸಾರ್ವಜನಿಕ ವೇದಿಕೆಯಲ್ಲಷ್ಟೇ ಪ್ರಸ್ತಾಪವಾಗುವ ಹಿಂದೂ ಎನ್ನುವ ರಾಜಕೀಯ ಪದ, ಇವರ ಖಾಸಗಿ ಬದುಕಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಬಳಕೆಯಾಗುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. ಮದುವೆಯ ಸಂದರ್ಭದಲ್ಲಿ, ಪೂಜೆಯ ಸಂದರ್ಭದಲ್ಲಿ, ದೇವಸ್ಥಾನ ಪ್ರವೇಶದ ಸಂದರ್ಭದಲ್ಲಿ, ಹಬ್ಬ ಹರಿದಿನಗಳ ಸಂದರ್ಭಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಹಿಂದೂ ಎನ್ನುವ ಶಬ್ದ ಸುಳಿಯದೆ ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಬ್ರಾಹ್ಮಣ, ಬನಿಯಾ, ಪೂಜಾರಿ, ಗೌಡ ಎಂಬಿತ್ಯಾದಿ ಜಾತಿ ಸ

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dinesh Poojary, your feed back please

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Rima, did any of the cast harm you or your belief? We have respective leaders and laws to take care in case of any discrimination! Can you answer my question? if cast discrimination was only the reason behind conversion activates then why similar activates going on in Buddhist populated countries even Dalai lama raised concern over the issue last year!!

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  • Francis, Moodbidri/Dubai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    You forgot how many daliths has been converted to Budhism last year? its in thousands.

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  • sunill, bangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    mr francis ,
    lord buddha is 9the avatar of lord vishnu.there is no much difference between hinduism and buddhism.dali lama also recently spoke against commercial conversions.

    conversions should be out of will and not commercial.

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    The KHANgress supporters have no moral right to comment. Their leaders have converted themselves to meet their own vested interests and fool the gullible Indian public.
    Rajiv Khan converted to Roberto and then reconverted to Rajiv 'Gandhi'. Antanio Maino converted to Antanio Maino KHan and then later reconverted to Sonia Gandhi..Similarly Raul Vinci Khan & Bianca Vinci Khan converted to Rahul & Priyanka respectively. The best thing is to strictly implement 'Anti conversion law' .

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  • mohammed , kuwait

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Mr. Ramesh, People are converted to Hinduism. What would be his or her caste (Kula, Gotra)? There are many castes in Hinduism. Is the person given same respect as the upper caste people (Brahmins)? Can he have food with upper caste people or go to temple? How the person will be treated after he has been converted?

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  • marol, udupi

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Convert from BAD TO GOOD and not from one religion to another. Religious conversions without GOODNESS is waste.

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    There is name for this place. Its called HEAVEN. Which is permanent unlike this temporary life in temporary world. Right :)

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  • Babu Bhaiya, Bangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Ache din agayere baba. Muje koi convert karo aur mera 15 lakh dedo re baba.

    Ye Raju biriyani se chicken nikal, aur veg biriyani la.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    Chicken ka koi chhota sa haddi mila tho use bhi biryani se nikalna bhulo math !

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  • Shafi, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Making communal divide ,spreading hatred are bread &butter of bjp/ss/bajrandal/vhp .You can not stop them unless they re convert to GOOD HUMAN BEING.

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  • sudarshan, ganjimut

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Ramesh S. fantastic explnation.

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    How come 200 people converted together, one or two person converting i can understand. it's a force conversion now vhp has been exposed, they stopped electricity and water and also got threatened for their life. in video if u see u can see while they were converting they were covering head with cap. in heart they are muslim, that's enough.

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Let all the indian Hindus working in the gulf countries be converted as muslims. If not let them all packed home as GHAR WAPASI

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  • Kudladaar, Manglaore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    No doubt, these rss affliated communal groups financed by bjp will planning communal clash all over INDIA i/o of development. In front hand they are with one face and rear side they are with their communal mind real face.
    Seems they will not complete their tenure in central govt.
    Seems INDIA moving towards national disaster.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear Mohammed, Hinduism never tried to convince any one or tries to convert any one..we believe more than logic/proofs/evidence (as propogated by people like ZAKIR NAIK), its the acts of people who follow a faith matters more..when i come out of mandir & i should feel calm/blessed, not filled with anger to throw stone/kill others..we worship unknown power,sun,moon,stone,tree,animals..the notion of everything created for our enjoyment bringing doom for human race..its proven, thats why nature conservation,global warming initiatives,peta like institution working..people who see us should feel that he can find solace in my religion, we welcome him...logics dont work in faith my brother, there are uncontacted human tribes in AMAZON jungle who nothing know about our religion..what you think they will go to hell??

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  • Sheela, Mumbai, UAE

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Well thought and said..

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Ramesh S.
    Nicely stated points !

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  • Vantage Point, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear
    Ramesh S...
    No religion teaches its followers to stone idols or other place of worship or spew hatred on others....Do you think act stoning or burning of hundreds of church or masjid or temple act of devout people ...if that is the case would you justify BD vandalism of other religious place
    ...Coming to conversion hinduism too believe in converting others...recent incidents has proved it.... brother why you worried of amazon jungle....even in dense jungle of India tribals were following their own customs not related to any religion until recently...what is Vanavasi kalyan yojana doing there, they are not going to hell right....???
    Islam says if any group of people like tribals who are unaware of Islam they dont go to hell...I dont know about views regarding other religion....
    Coming to saving animals or PETA...I think most of religious scriptures speaks of animal as a food including vedas ,quran ...etc..
    How can you part with PETA...?PETA is also against exploitation of cow for milk ...would you stop drinking milk....
    Coming to conservating nature...I think all major religion scriptures speaks of it...I think we need not specify it...If vedas speaks of it is good and we should appreciate..

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Allah says: “So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to Allah, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned(about Islam): ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in Allah’s sight are all of His servants.” [Quran 3: 20]

    For us its just convey the message. No threaten, No agenda, No need anti conversion law.

    Islam does not need people or percentages. Its we who need Islam.

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  • kiran raj, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    what a wonderful development!!!. I think this govt also goes to history the way it is functioning

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  • n ameem, manglore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Y this people taking tension abt bring ghar vapasi .better to make population more.

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  • T. Siddiqui, Delhi

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Come on India,just grow up....
    I think we have other imp issues to discuss . Wat about the issues of corruption,price rise,women security..etc which bjp government promised to resolve???!!!
    Kya aise ayege ache din!!!!

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  • Anamika, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Why RSS and shiv sena doesnt go back from 800 years and just limited to it...coz if they go further past there are huns,kushans,scythians,greeks,aryans....from where they got their religion.....Even those who brought Islam and christian to wider part of India are not semetic in origin ...Modern India is a cocktail of genetics and religion...coz we dont have particular similarity as Indian genes...
    If we move east we have mongoloid genes...if we move north west we have genes similar to afghans or iranians.....if we move south or some tribal pockets we have peculiar genes limited to south......if we move to some tribes in central India...they have austroloid genes...In between there are semetic genes and genes similar to european people.....in Island of Andaman of nicobar we have negrioto genes...
    This is what it make modern india...The original populace where just animist...Hindu religion has it origin before it evolving here in the central asia....where it parted into iranian(old avestan) in the west and indic whic later moved eastwards...Tilak was of opinion of its origin in siberia....earliest reference for vedic religion may be goes back to 1500 b.c...before of it there were indus valley and if we move further past there are caves of bhimbetka.....still uncertain and doesnt denote it belonged to any religion...If we peak linguistically there are four major language groups in India each having its own different origin....Nowhere like in europe or middle east we can say we are derived from single linguistic group......

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Good analysis....but why so negative likes....some people finds truth bitter.....

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  • sunill, bangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    wrong analysis

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  • GANGARAM, MOODBIRI

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    PAAPA DALITHER FOOTBALL LEKKA AAD POYER!!

    NOW THEIR PRAYERS MAY BE LIKE KICHIDI, THEY KNOW HALF FROM CHRISTIAN, HALF FROM MUSLIMS AND HALF FROM HINDUS.

    BY THE WAY WHICH KULA, GOTRA, CASTE WILL BE GIVEN TO THEM? ENNA ITTI LEKKA POOJARY KORUVERA ?

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  • alwyn, mlore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    kula ittinane korper.... bokka high class brahminerna seve malpune yer?

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    BJP, SS, RSS, Bajrangi, HJV who are intoxicated by power, have gone out of control.They have become arrogant and are behaving like street side rogues.

    It appears that they aren't interested to rule but abuse and create a controversy each week..thanks to their uneducated and criminal MP's and MLA's.

    'Acche din' and 'Vikaas' have been thrown in the dust bin by these rowdy groups.

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  • Alwyn, mlore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    whenever BJP is in power they mess up everything.. they get overwhelmed and don't understand what to do with the power..
    same thing happened with yeddi government as well..
    BJP pls remember even Muslims & christians voted Modi sarkar this time just for better economy and governance..
    absolute madness and arrogance is on the show right now..

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  • Koti, Kundapura

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    World without religion would be peaceful.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Reminds of John Lennon's hit song 'Imagine' -

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    you are right stan, bhagvadgeeta to be national book, tajmahal to be tejo mahalaya etc. instead of doing their respective duties they are all around in all other useless issues.

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  • prem, moodbidri

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Election won... now let us try people forget the election agenda... let us cover Govt's failures by doing such dramas.

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    dear ramesh, Dawah/Preaching is giving knowledge about Islam to all people . You can do the same thing. Preach Hinduism to all and try to convince people with enough proofs and evidences. Its upto the people to think and decide what they have to choose.

    Islam has proper message and answer for everything. If hinduism has it also then preach it. Why threaten people that they will convert all and reconvert all. Try to convince them instead.

    Why you guys are insisting to impose anti conversion law? Its just because you dont have the courage to convince people and stop them from converting. Its clear that you cannot convince people by will but you are trying to hold people by law. Right :)

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Super Answer Mohammed bhai

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  • jagdish, Mumbai, UAE

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear Mohammed,
    I think you have good knoweledge. Bit confusion here is Daesh, Taliban and Boko haram etc also says that they Muslims and preaching Islam. But offcourse i am not agree what they are doing in reality (killing, abducting etc). Non Muslims are really confused here. Can you say something here.

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    dear jagadish, Quran says killing of an innocent is killing all the humanity. So obviously its haram and prohibited. So now you can think that if someone kills an innnocent does he follow Quran.? And if he is not following Quran then is he called a Muslim. Just a muslim name cant make one muslim.

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    just i wanted to know one answer, killing of innocent is killing of whole humanity, i agree but when we kill cow or goat for food it's an innocent too. or does it refers only to humans,i wanted to ask with zakir naik but didn't get the chance.

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  • RN, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    As you think Islam has proper message and answer for everything even Hindu’s and Christian thought’s are in same direction like they have answer for everything which eventually leads to prove their religion better then others and end up with conversion!

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  • PAM Suvarna, Karla

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    So dear brother Mohammed,
    Tell me frankly are you ok for those conversion of Muslims to Hindu at UP?
    I believe those are from will since no one has complained that its by force or sword.If you are welcome this move, its really nice to read your comment,and there is absolutely no need of any Law for anti conversion.

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    it's a force conversion now vhp has been exposed, they stopped electricity and water and also got threatened for their life. in video if u see u can see while they were converting they were covering head with cap. in heart they are muslim, that's enough.

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  • rajesh, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear Mohammed. you say with enough proof and evidences. can you please provide enough proof and evidence of your heaven and hell. Now, that apart, if an Hindu preaches good about his religion to Muslim and the Muslim is happy to embrace Hinduism,will the Muslims not bother about it?. i have heard from many sources that apostasy is a crime in Islam which is punishable with death. under the circumstances since all are given freedom to propagate his or her religion,The apostates should not be harmed right? be it Hindu, Muslim christian or any faith.

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    mr rajesh read and understand all 3 books quran,bible and vedas, choose which one better, without understanding how u will know.
    don't believe in mullas, swamis most of them are for money only.

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Milan,
    Quran can be interpreted the way one wants. You know how ISIS and Taliban interprets Quoran.

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  • Rajesh, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear MIlan, you say "read and understand all 3 books quran,bible and vedas, choose which one is better, without understanding how u will know". Mr Milan why restrict it to only 3 books? What about holy books of other religion like Sikhs, Buddists, jews, Jains etc? it will take many years to read, understand and compare all the religions of this world. What do you expect people to become after reading and understanding all these voluminous books? A maulvi, Poojari, preacher? In this competitive world, when there is no enough time to fully read and understand religion to which one is born, how can you expect people to read holy books of different religion and compare? Is that essential to be a good human being? Why there is difference of opinion and different schools of thought within one’s own religion? I have read many comments in daiji saying that ISIS , Boko haram and other likeminded groups have wrongly understood Quran, if holy books were very clear why so many interpretations. According to me World will be at peace if people live by a simple rule which goes on like this "“Do onto others as you would wish them do onto you". Good does not necessarily come from religion. Atheists and agnostics living in this world have a big heart too. They show kindness. They do charity without expecting a reward or points.

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  • mohammad, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Allah says: “So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to Allah, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned(about Islam): ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in Allah’s sight are all of His servants.” [Quran 3: 20]

    For us its just convey the message. No threaten, No agenda, No need anti conversion law.

    Islam does not need people or percentages. Its we who need Islam.

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  • Narayanan Laxmanan, Udupi

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Ha Ha.. Good Development...
    When all the Countries are thinking of Future Development...
    We are planning to run back into the past...
    n our Prime Minister is on tour around the world....

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  • jacintha, middle east

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    If anybody is getting converted or reconverted due to enticement - that means they are poor, else they will not care for enticement.

    Poor are worried about their daily needs, they do not care for religion more than their hunger. What tool do they have, other than the poverty and conversion - to sooth their hunger.

    So let them. Immaterial of the religion, if they remain human, that is more than enough. Let them get their stomach fill, let them get reserved jobs, seats and let them come up in life - on par with rest - hindus, christians, muslims, jains, sikhs, buddists or many others that India is home to.

    Fine missionaries converted them - enticing. Dictators converted them - by force. But that was india's history. Why in our epics, weren't thousands killed for supporting one or the other? Did they not belong to ancient religion? Do we live by history or do we live by the present and future? Will we undo our history? Patriotism is only after the nation was formed, and none can question the patriotism of anyone else. If some got into terror, some got into corruption, some hatched conspiracies to kill the national leaders. Whose patriotism are we measuring?

    We all are talking of power game.

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  • Stan, Udupi/ Dubai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    No body talks about development now. BJP wants the people to be in confused state always so that there wont be questions raised about its poll promises. Clever idea to keep people busy talking about conversions,reconversion, ghar wapasi etc.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    If RSS, BJP, SS etc. are serious about Ghar Vapasi then they should apply it to their own members - Muqtar Abbas Naqvi, Shahnawaz Hussain, Najma Heptullah, Asifa Khan etc. should all convert to Hinduism.

    Mr. Uddhav - nothing wrong with that, right ?
    Oh, then how will they get Muslim faces as 'show pieces' in the party ?

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  • Katolik, Bombay

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    At the moment I want to convert my movies to HD resolution, does any1 know about a good software.

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Contact RSS / VHP / BD / RAMA SENE/HJV / S SENA etc..etc

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    REVERSE CONVERSION MUST NOT STOP AT ANY COST........

    Is not Mogul / Tippu converted innocent hindus to Muslim religion ???..

    Is not British / Portuguese / Missonries converted innocent hindus to Christian religion ???....

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  • shekh, Bahrain

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    If tippu sultan converted forcefully today you couldn't have found single non muslim here.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    ..what you mean by uneducated..who said Dalit are not Hindus..we have caste system..but i can say castism in Hinduism are much better than sectism of others..atleast we are not killing each other..i am very much proud that i am walking with time when people are moving backward to the stone age..i can question ,criticize,draw a picture,dance for the song, make a film..i enjoy films like Oh my God & PK..but others are not fortunate..

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Ramesh S., seems like you need to follow the news more closely. Over the years there have been enough and more cases of Dalit Hindus who have been either killed or raped or houses burnt by upper caste Hindus.
    Please see the three fingers pointing back while pointing a finger at others.
    Acknowledge the atrocities committed against Dalit Hindus by upper caste Hindus while pointing out sectarian violence happening elsewhere.

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  • PAM Suvarna, Karla

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Dear Ramesh Bhai,
    There is no place for questioning their own religious errors, or criticism,modification or alteration only bothering about what other religion is doing,its demerits, its defects and its mistakes!!!!that's all,what a hypocrites??

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 23 2014

    No worries PAM Suvarna. I have no problem accepting/acknowledging errors, faults within my community in all humility but I also reserve my right to criticize. Any problem with that ? I cannot speak for others.
    We can improve as a society or a community or a nation only when we first acknowledge our faults. This is applicable to all communities.

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  • Mohammed, Kuwait

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    It is forcefully conversion how they will complaint they are uneducated and marginalized people, if they make complaints also no use because government is supporting for that goonda’s. So RSS choose tribal people, if they have guts let them convert city people or educated

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  • Amith, udupi

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    so you guys are going to bring your own version of moghul rule and Portuguese rule ..good development ..you should have put this in your election promises also ..coz u never delivered what u promised and you guys are concentrating on conversions and turning it into business ....keep it up guys ... convert yourselves first ..bring all non hindu MP and MLAs from your party first and then concentrate on others ..why u act secular and then do communal politics ..change your house first then change the nation ..Idiots

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    ..Dont fool yourself, debate is on forceful conversion not on willful conversion..if anybody converts willfully, who can stop them??..how can you say GHAR WAPSI is forceful, without a complaint?

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  • Amith, udupi

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Provide a ghar and a job and a status ...then call it ghar vapasi ...not converting someone into another religion...what is the use ?what will you gain something infront of god by doing it ? will you say look god i have brought you new followers now bless me ??or go infront of god and say god give me faith &courage and a good heart to feed 100 poor people irrespective of their religion ? which one is a bigger thing in front of God ?

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  • shaji, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Mr. Ramesh, are you deaf and blind. Every one knows that what bjp supported goondas are converting people to hinduism is only by force. YOu cannot and should not put force on anyone to change his or her religion. In case Moguls or British or Portuguese whould have forced Hindus to convert to Island or Christians, i dont think you would have seen a single Hindu in India. You are only blaming Moguls and British and Portuguese as you have no valid reason and you are jobless / senseless. bjp is supporting sangh parvivars unemployed people to keep them busy and gain in the politics. None should force any one to practice and change his / her religion. People are shifting to other religions on their own. Many many Hindus are converting to Budhism and you can not stop them. Better you shut your mouth and go with the time. Try to be Indian and respect colleague indians. Dont support these Sangh parivar goondas and terrorists.

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Let opposition parties make it a big issue, and then only all Hindus will come to know the true picture of Congress and its dongi chelas..

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  • Krishna, karkala

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Religion has become like a political party. Poor people can be converted to any religion by giving some incentive to convert.Once they are converted no one will care for them.
    Same people might reconvert if they get a better offer from the other religion

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  • CYRIL MASCARENHAS, KIREM/MIRA ROAD/DUBAI

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    IF REVERSE CONVERTED PEOPLE,AGAIN RECONVERTED THEN..? WHAT SENA SAYS..?

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    in America they tried to Down islam, people wanted to know what cruel religion is this, they wanted to show people that it's a religion of hatred, they started studying islam, they found there is no hatred and it's religion of peace. Many Conversion took place.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    We need to support Shiva Sena and BJP. This Abrahamic invaders have made many of our peoples as their slave. Converting to foreign faith through sword (force) or money(Service) is slave only. Saudi don't allow any expatriate(Indian Muslim or any) to purchase their land, can't do business, even can't marry their women but only become their slave by converting.

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  • gm, mlure

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    5 years of present gov't will go in this only. Oh my god what a development.

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  • Denzil Dsa, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Let all Dalits and uneducated converted Hindus reconvert. Its good for Christianity. Some of new born Christian groups converted them.Educated they know.

    I am thankful to be a Roman Catholic and if my ancestors got converted from any religion. I am thankful to them as well.

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  • Agee, Indian-UAE

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    There was no religion at the beginning... so we have right to follow the religion of our choice.

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  • Wellwisher, Manglaore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    In Maharastra shivsena na ghar ka na ghat ka. Now they have to catch bhagthe bhooth ka lang##t. Hope next term completely vanished from maharastra. From public money thackray family enjoying lavish life. Using all imported cars.

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  • Milan, Dxb

    Mon, Dec 22 2014


    it's like swapping wife to other''s wife

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    NOW ALL MAJORITY HINDUS REALIZED THE VALUE OF HINDUISM.....WHO LEFT HINDUISM AND CONVERTED TO OTHER RELIGION FOR MONEY , NOW REALIZING THEY MADE A MISTAKE......SO THEY WANT TO COME BACK WHATS THE BIG DEAL?

    ANY HOW I AM AGAINST FORCIBLE CONVERSION...

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  • mohan, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    what about the people left hunduism and join Jainism, Sikkism,Buduism and Also theree are parsians, Iranians. You should bring them back to Hinduism. Otherwise you should not call India a hindu nation.

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  • Mohammed, Kuwait

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Mr. Jeevan this is joke of the era. Forcefully no one can do conversion this one is not practical, yes we are doing dawah. In dhawa we are trying to inform about Islam, If you can do it first understand them what is Hinduism, and after convert which group you will go. If they agree you can do conversion. By goondagiri you can’t change anyone faith.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    ..how you decided GHAR WAPSI is thru goonda giri?..how decided its not as per their will..if i question you will give paarayana..but if others do it will be forceful!!..every one major, if its forceful then let them complaint..

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  • Aadil Khan, Kasaragod/Saudi Arabia

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    How can you reconvert one who is presently living and born to his/her Muslim or Christian parents? By birth he is Muslim or Christian.

    Go and reconvert their forefathers who were dead centuries ago.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Exact comment I made yesterday that if forefathers were converted then 'Ghar vapasi' applies to them only. They are all dead.
    The present generation who are their descendants have all been born in the religion. So how can RSS call that Ghar Vapasi ? For votes or for their agenda of making India a Hindu State ? Definitely not votes because we are the minority. However, it helps their offshoot the BJP in their political ambitions.

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  • anil, mlore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Shiva sena is another goonda party .What can one expect from them ?.T

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    THIS IS POLICY OF BJP ( HIDDEN AGENDA) MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO CONVERTED TO OTHER FAITHS WHO SOCIALLY BACKWARD AND SUFFERED BY THE UPPER CLASS !!

    IS ANY ONE HIGH PROFILED LEADER OR UPPER CAST KEEP ANY RELATION WITH THEM AFTER "GHAR VAPASI"

    I DOUBT !!! MAY BE THEY WILL RETURN TO THEIR OLD SLAVERY

    THIS IS NOTHING BUT EMOTIONAL REVENGE BY THE UPPER CAST OTHERWISE WHO BOTHERED ABOUT THE RELIGION !

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    SS leader's family female member married a Muslim boy ..It is better if they first reverse convert that man!

    On the serious note,MODI allegedly threatened to 'hang the boots' for conversion fiasco as Modi came to power in the PLANK OF DEVELOPMENT.Today on record Amith Sha distance with GHAR WAPSI!!!

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    what a logic? Yes, marriage is a personal thing and she married a muslim! and has she converted to Islam? did the boy ask the same? NO!! so where is the question of Ghar waapsi? kya perinje kaaka, kuch bhi bolte ho yaar!..

    Subhash Bose married a Russian, doesnt mean he was in love with the total Russia or communists! or he is little less iNdian?!

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Vellano,

    Can you apply same logic to tah poor families?

    Shanawaz's wife is daughter Sangh Pariavr's national leader!

    Abbas Nakkulu's wife also daughter of Sanghi's National leader..

    Why can't these two naam ke waste Muslman leaders should not be in the list of gahr Wapsi or revers (swing)convert?

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    this is ur problem..! you see it is marriage of religion, rather than individuals!! ... you have problem when your girls marry out or a gril never converts to ur religion upon marriage!... just "co-existence" doesnt exist!! .. if Aamir marries a Hindu, doesnt mean she has married evry muslaman... If Sunil shetty marries a Muslim , doesnt mean she is married to every hindu that, you have to get excited upon!... ...keep it indivdual choice and let the kids decide what they want to be... Like Salim Khan probably! he has a Mini India family!... let both practice their faiths!...

    Problem is, when someone takes away his girl friends, you feel it is a victory of religion!.. and then support them.. this happens in both sides of moral brigade!!...
    if the couple and their families are OK with the marriage, NO ONE.. absoultely NO ONE should ahve problem!... why on the girl, if her parents think, she has made good choice, even they can change their religion, if they wish!! ... but No one should force her or her parents to change religion!

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    What a tit for tat reply re...

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  • Denzil, Mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Okay. But I am afraid this approach wouldn't scale up well with the initial converter. So reconvert the converter and issue resolved :-) hahahah

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  • masif, Jubail

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Bal takrey Grand daughter married with Gujarati muslim Guy.

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  • masif, Jubail

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Thackeray and family were also present at the marriage reception & Takrey Family blessed the new couple of Neha takrey & Mannan,

    Political Leader kiya tho chamathkaar
    Voters Kiya tho balathkaar

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Masif It is common yaar and good trend last 10-15 days back Insa Khaleel has married Bharat ....

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  • Khan, manglore bolar

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    ohh u r till now in that matters insa and Bharat .. So what... my bro wife is x hindu .. So what big deal in it...@ jeevan

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  • jagdish, Mumbai, UAE

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    What is big deal in it........... Love is important.

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    He is a big hypocrite, anglicized his name from Taakre to Thakeray, Javed Minndad whose son is married to Dawood Ibrahim's daughter did visit his residence Matoshree when Taakre was hellbent on preventing Indo- Pak cricket on Indian soil.

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    So,, is it a victory, I married a Mlore Christian..so. What stupid commenting mate?

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    The founder of Siva Sena's daughter in-law is a believer in JESUS CHRIST.

    My personal friend Dr. P. P. Job gave her a Bible before conducting the crusade in Mumbai in 1999. There are many secret and open believers in the higher class sector of the society like the business people-movie stars etc. But the politicians are barricading the poor sections of the society to make their own decision to change their religious faith.

    Is that democracy or autocracy?

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Mon, Dec 22 2014

    Well said Shiv Sena..
    Tum Kare Tho Chamatkar
    Hum Kare Tho Bhalatkar...
    DONT STOP GHAR WAPSI PROGRAM TILL ENACT ANTI CONVERSION LAW....

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