Billy, Dubai

Everyone is touchy about their religion and each one thinks theirs is better than the rest. Wouldn't the world have been better if we had no religion?We are all just Humans and all the same?The debate on whether Jesus is better than Ram or vice versa wouldn't have any winners .Most importantly ,every religion sells you after life Insurance..do well here u get this...be good here you go to heaven..do well here u become a prince not a frog...can we just be what we want to be..
and for Wilson becoming someone else by name ...whats the noise about??one Wilson became rakesh..100000 rakeshs became Wilsons in the northeast...just a little game ...serious and dangerous...so leave it all to the ones who want to play it..rest eat drink be merry and live ur life

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haris, mumbai

this is Love Jihad.........where is media now? when muslim do than its LOVE i am 100% sure that lady will convert to catholic... very soon after 2 years

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Sunil Raj, Mangalore

Jal gayee Teri Ab ye Shuruwat hsi bhai..

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Chandra, Mangaluru

Whatever,,,
Mr. Wilson aka Rakesh and Shobhini are the most sought persons in Daijiworld.
Surely attaining celeb status…
All the best to both.... Happy married life ahead.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Man was created from the dust and his body will return to the dust. God didn’t made slaves. Never had been Adam and eve were in slaves or were slaves. The unrighteous/unjust killed the just/righteous (Cain killed Abel. The prophecy is Jesus was righteous and just was killed by the unjust and un-righteous) Adam and eve were just a male and female. God made them male and female and blessed them (here the blessing is the most important) and they became husband and wife so as to have genealogy. We are not slaves or servants we are all friends. In the clear terms now we have house helpers, assistants or servants. In the centuries past were also there were servants, helpers, assistants however they were called as slaves. There were terms and conditions an agreement to adopt a slave or a servant.
Even today in many of the houses in India we have servants, assistants helpers who are treated worse than the slaves of the past.
Jesus abolished bonded/agreement slavery.

I quote: John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. Unquote.
Here Jesus specifies servant means bond-man or bond-women. Bond means there is an agreement and that agreement should be accomplished by his master. It is an improvised method which we have presently similar to an employee having an agreement to an employer.

Before Jesus we are all equal/friends

In the kingdom of heaven we are all partakers/inheritors.
Our God will not treat as we are servants or slaves. We are all friends to Him.
He created us in His Image.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Dear vedaasthuthi Udupi,

We are going back to 2000 B.C.

You tell me how many Indians are knowing their own date of birth.

I can accept illiterates.

OUR LEARNED ARMY CHIEF DOESN'T KNOW HIS DATE OF BIRTH TILL HIS RETIREMENT AGE.

I don't want to go to Politics in the matter of my faith. However, from the 20th century if we go through how many Hindus know their own date of Birth. An Army chief an example of how a learned man that too a Hindu and a Army Chief's controversy in the date of birth.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Dear vedaasthuthi Udupi,

Will you please give me exact date of birth of your gods and goddesses?

Kindly elaborate.

There is nothing to fool any Christians about the birth of Jesus.
Every Christian knows December 25th is not the exact date of birth of Jesus Christ.
No Christian scholar has so far able to find out the exact date of the birth of Jesus Christ. December 25th was the approximately calculated date by the Humans.

JESUS WAS IN HEAVEN PRIOR TO HIS BIRTH TO THIS EARTH AS A HUMAN. THE CHRISTIAN ERA C.E. WAS CALCULATED APPROXIMATELY AND ALL THE HUMANS OF THIS EARTH ARE RELYING ON CHRISTIAN ERA/GREGORIAN CALENDAR.

FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION GOD HAS NO DATE OF BIRTH THAT IS THE REASON CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS COULDN'T FIND OUT THE EXACT DATE.

Now kindly don't repeat what i am saying.

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joe, mlore dxb

Love is blind! Both are not matured yet! wilsons pain , bajrangis gain !! wilson knew exactly whom to approach... for bajrangis it was an open invitation. they took the easy way out and converted him! This is a wake-up call for christians ... wilson will realise soon his foolishness to convert as Hindu. He shouldn't have. Both shouldve followed their own religion. Anyways happy married life.

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Judith L, Mumbai

It is time for our community to introspect why Wilson got scared of the bajrangis and converted. Why did he not approach his community for help? What the diocese has to say about this? What the religious swamiji of udupi has to say about this incident does he support such a crime done by bajrangis?

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sam, world

Dear vedaasthuthi, udupi

The answers for each of your questions are quite lengthy, so I will be brief.

"how chritianity started"
Christianity is the fulfillment of the Old Testament. People who follow Christ are called Christians. The Bible is a book that describes God's plan for the salvation of humans.

"where and how divinity of Jesus was approved"
Christ's divinity was accepted when he was alive! Are you familiar with how Jesus uses the phrase "I AM" and do you know what this phrase means? There are many such examples in the Bible that describe the divinity of Jesus.

"bible(old,new,john,mathew)"
The Bible is comprised of two halves. The first half is known as the Old Testament (Old Covenant) and the second half is known as the New Testament (New Covenant).

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Vashal, Mangalore

Is it not Love Jihad by Bajarangi's?Why this Double standard?Any way best luck for new couple.

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Jayaprakash Shetty, UK

Couple of points
1. One Christian boy converted and we can see the rage here, so what should Hindus do when so many have been converted?
2. Regarding caste-I have seen it in Christians and muslims. This is not only in India but worldwide. I have seen some Pakistanis mistreating an Ahmadiya a so caled Low caste muslim. Also we know how sunnis are butchering Shias, kurds and Yazidis. Mike Tyson and Mohd Ali are just 2 examples of black Christians who left Christianity because of racism. We know how blacks are put to death in name of criminal justice in USA by all white juries.

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sam, world

Jayaprakash Shetty, UK, there is no rage here. The issue is aptly stated by mohammed ansar, byndoor who wrote "Hum karo to conversion, Tum karo to gharvapasi"

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Dear Jayaprakash Shetty, UKSaturday, September 13, 2014

Couple of points
1. One Christian boy converted and we can see the rage here, so what should Hindus do when so many have been converted?

MAY BE YOU ARE NOTICING ONE HERE. HAVE NOTICED PREVIOUS BLOGS OF DAIJIWORLD?!

For your kind information I am quoting one from the Times of India here:

Church turned into 'temple' after 72 Valmikis reconvert to Hinduism
Eram Agha,TNN | Aug 28, 2014, 12.32 AM IST
CHRISTIANS WERE TERRORIZED AND FORCIBLY CONVERTED AND UN-HOLY RITUALS CONDUCTED BY THE FUNDAMENTAL HINDUS.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
A small request!
Kindly share the birth day of jesus(the son of god) ,where and why the present b’day is approved and celebrated than jan 5 !!
We will start from the date of birth and see whether people are fooled to celebrate the wrong day since centuries!!
If you remember me saying about ‘council of nicea’, and constatine , please do go through it and will be helpful for you to understand the above request !!
Dhanyavad

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sam, world

vedaasthuthi, what is your concern regarding the birth day of Jesus? Don't we keep a day in remembrance for a person who is important and who has a special place in our hearts? If the date is something you find issue with then can you tell, if Aug 15 would be of any significance to people born prior to 1947?

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Reba, Mangalore

Appreciate your witty broadminded comments. I am sorry to read that there are still some old narrow minded people who are dividing Christians in the name of caste. Kudos. Hats off to you.

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Dev, Mangalore

By birth Varnas are assigned more than the works they do as contested by many.
Why Karna got his training in 'shasthras' by Parashurama who was a brahmin?
Why Parashurama is not a Kshathriya for doing so?
Why Karna was not Kshtriya but called 'Soothaputhra' by learning the vidye according to your claims?
Why Parashurama cursed Karna for lying to him about his varna?
Only those people who are enlightened saw a Brahmin in a Shudra than the present Vedanthis.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Dev, Mangalore
Pranam...
Make some time to go through vedas dear to clear your doubt about 'Varnashram Dharma'!!
You have to follow what is relative & which supports the vedic life and reject caste based discrimnation!
I am a follower of VEDAS and please share your opinion on vedas after going through varnashram dharma, as you know the highest authority is given to VEDAS in hinduism!
Dhanyavad

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Concerning to Slaves i shall discuss to you later. Be prepared to it.
-Take your own time on slavery part(u are well aware of it) dear and not only this we have many more ..!!

Now tell me.Do the almighty gods and goddesses perceive only Sanskrit and doesn't perceive other languages?!
-Kindly share your source for the above wrt to Vedas , ll be helpful in resolving this.

If gods and goddesses perceive all other languages why then in the poojaas are performed only in Sanskrit. Why not in my mother tongue Konkani.
-Kindly share the source

Do gods and goddesses perceive Konkani or they put an excuse
- First you have to clear me regarding gods & goddesses , where it is mentioned, what book, then we will see!!

What it concerns to gods being a old or a new language???!!!
-Same as above
Dhanyavad

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Judith L, Mumbai

The court had already said they were legally married so bajrangis could not have done anything. Wilson, should have approached his community in members for help and then has a community he would have got support becos alone I understand it is difficult to fight these people with destructive minds and actions but as a community they could be taught a lesson. still it is not late for Wilson.

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Shabz, Mumbai

Bajrangi Love Jihadis!!! hahahha Chaddis will be chaddis blaming other castes and they are the real culprits for all fights in the name of religion!!! Ban the communal hindu Groups then see the changes in the country!!!

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Sheikh, Mangalore

Ache din aagaye for Wilson..It is love jihad or Love Bajrangis,.

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Jyothi, Mangalore

I am happy that they are persevered in their decision but sorry to hear about the force to conversion into Hinduism. Each one is free to choose and live their Religion. it doesn't matter of any Religion to live in love.

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Hi Sam

You got the answer for yourself...
If you want to be a teacher (mouth)..be brahmin...
If you want to be a farmer (feet).. be Shudra....
As on today, in Hinduism, do you heard anywhere any objection for a shudra in teaching profession and brahmin in peon's job... Sometimes, you will find them in office...!!!
I must thank you for giving an opportunity to elaborating the true meaning of Varna (Caste)...
I hope you too help me in spreading this true message for the benefit of all.... as it grows brotherhood than hatredness...

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore
Pranaam , namasthey brathru..
After reading your comment felt good that people have started showing interest in reading authentic hindu scriptures to know more about hinduism!!
Let adarniya sam,world address the issues in our scriptures(he has to reveal his source for the issues he likes to raise) and i will try my best to clear his doubt wrt 'vedas'
Later i will address some of my doubt about his belief!
"Satya meva jayavthey"
Dhanyavad

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Dear vedaasthuthi, udupi

It seems some are repeatedly spoiled the true positive meanings of Hinduism...

This is the way, they try to convert innocent Hindus, as inquisition is no more possible...

The first shloka of Ramayana "maa nishaadha prathisthaam thvamagamaha...." has 2 meanings...

All Kalidaasa shlokas also have many meanings... But all those are positive meanings... Sam is trying learn about Hinduism not with positive intentions, that is the problem...

But I really appreciate Hindus for being patient (while others criticizing) and meantime respect other religions (even though lots of issues do exist there too). That is their GREATNESS...

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sam, world

RSRB I think you are creating a new form of Hinduism :)

The Gita shows Krishna describing how the 4 classes are formed and that he is the creator of this system. One doesn't automatically become a brahmin because one believes it! Krishna put a system in place and one can see an example of this in the Mahabharata. Let me show you an excerpt from Mahabharata Book 13 (Anusana Parva), Section XXVIII.

"Sakra of great fame once more appeared before him and addressing him, said, The status of a Brahmana, O child, is unattainable. Although thou covetest it, it is impossible for thee to obtain it. O Matanga, by coveting that very high status thou art sure to be destroyed. Do not, O son, betray such rashness. This cannot be a righteous path for thee to follow. O thou of foolish understanding, it is impossible for thee to obtain it in this world. ... If born as human being, he is sure to take birth as a Pukkasa or a Chandala. ... Passing a period of one thousand years in that order, one attains next to the status of a Sudra. In the Sudra order, again, one has to wander for a long time. After thirty thousand years one acquire the status of a Vaisya. There, in that order, one has to pass a very long period. ..."

Why the long time periods to become Sudra, Vaisya, etc.? If you say "If you want to be a teacher (mouth)..be brahmin...", then why is Bhishma warning Sakra that becoming a Brahmana is unattainable?

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam,world
FYI ,vedas do not support caste system !
Kindly share your source sam!
Bhagavad Gita… one of the sacred scripture of Hinduism does not differentiate between human beings.
Krishna clearly explains that those indulging in religious rituals were Brahmins, those working for the protection of our boundaries… Kshatriya, those involved in business and trading… Vaishya and the balance Shudra taking care of menial jobs!
Bhagavad Gita does not create a disparity between any of the stated forms of Labor! All are to be equally respected. As per Bhagavad Gita it is not the origination that counts… but the conduct that is important! Every human being must be judged by ones conduct and not the family background… the roots one is born into!
Krishna states that One may be born a Brahmin yet, indulging in trading! One may be born a Vaishya… yet serving the country on the front! In the house of God… there never existed a disparity. All were equal. Bhagavad Gita… all the 700 shlokas (verses) contained therein contains truth and only truth! Bhagavad Gita is the embodiment of truthfulness.
Thanks for exposing your ignorance of krishnas teaching!
Dhanyavad.

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sam, world

vedaasthuthi, the Vedas mention the caste system. The other texts Puranas, Bhagawad Gita, Manusmriti, Mahabharata, Ramayana, etc. support it. If " All were equal", then why did Krishna create the caste ? Why not create a casteless society? If there is no "disparity between any of the stated forms of Labor", then why does Bhishma speak those words in Mahabharata Book 13 (Anusana Parva), Section XXVIII ? When Karna attends the swayamavara ceremony of Draupadi and picks up the bow, why does Draupadi say "I am a king's daughter, and will not wed with the base-born." and why were the Pandavas disguised as Brahmins? There are many such examples, will you like RSRB create a new form of Hinduism?

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam, world
Pranam ..
Hinduism doesn’t need forum dear,
Quoting some manipulated verses, disrespecting, mocking things without knowing whether the source is authentic or not doesn’t change the true facts!! Arise these types of healthy discussion in any forum.
Dhanyavad

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sam, world

vedaasthuthi, why do you say that I am "Quoting some manipulated verses, disrespecting, mocking things".

I have given the Hindu scripture and verses for you and everyone to check. Why should I mock Hindus? Non-Christians are also loved by God, like us Christians and even though you do not believe in Christ, you must realize God still loves you.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam,world
Pranam..
Now , if your intention is similar ,than there are lot of misconception about testament & also confusion over exact birth date of jesus, but I don’t want to address things here !! because I want to believe that indeed “every path leads to him” and “world is one family” !
Dhanyavad.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam,world
Pranaam..
"man can never get enlightened if he thinks that his religion is superior than others" How does one get enlightened? and how can an enlightened person know if he or she is enlightened?
- How do you ( as a christian ) attain enlightenment ?
After your reply to the above question.,I will answer how one following the path of vedas guides to attain enlightenment.

"vasudhaiva kutumbakam and this teaching are found only in one faith." The Bible teaches we are all descendants of the first man and woman (Genesis). We are all one blood and thus your presumption that vasudhaiva kutumbakam if found in only one faith is not true.”
-There is no proof for Big bang Theory(so it is called theory not a fact) nor adam & Eve story, so relating “vasudhaiva kutumbakam” concept to adam & eve story is not the answer ,so you are misleading here with adam & eve ,also why the people of earth divided into believers(one who believe sin jesus) and non believers as per your own bible but we belive in “SARVA DHARMA SAMBHAVA” .We believe that every path leads to him and what about you!!?
Cont..
Dhanyavad

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam ,world
Cntd…
“Another common accusation is to point fingers at the Christians with regards to killing of Protestant, Catholics, etc. Why do these occur? Does the Hindu faith answer why humans harm one another? We know the answer to this question i.e. "Original sin", an answer you do not want to hear.

Rather than get into a theological discussion, the simple fact is, we sin on a daily basis an no matter what we try (puja, yoga, etc.), they all fall short”
-Original Sin( You mean before existence of jesus people were sin less) You are wrong in this, I think you have not read about KARMA concept which can be proved logically,
I think you believe in ‘fate’ not karma which is the core of abrahmic concept because there is no free will and everything predestined, Fate means that there are no choices in life. On the contrary, karma means that there are choices in life. You have the right to choose the good and bad karma. But in fate, there is no choice of learning these lessons of life. Karma is related to the soul whereas fate is not. So’ original sin’ is not the answer for human hurting fellow humans but karma which you don’t understand !

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Do the almighty gods and goddesses perceive only Sanskrit and doesn't perceive other languages?!

If gods and goddesses perceive all other languages why then in the poojaas are performed only in Sanskrit. Why not in my mother tongue Konkani.

Do gods and goddesses perceive Konkani or they put an excuse.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Does God permit to have slaves? Are the slaves descendents of ADAM & Eve?
Sanskrith is the oldest language as the oldest script found is of sanskrith!
May i know here did you find the gender difference on almighty ?
Dhanyavad

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Dear vedaasthuthi, udupi,

Concerning to Slaves i shall discuss to you later. Be prepared to it.

Now tell me.Do the almighty gods and goddesses perceive only Sanskrit and doesn't perceive other languages?!

If gods and goddesses perceive all other languages why then in the poojaas are performed only in Sanskrit. Why not in my mother tongue Konkani.

Do gods and goddesses perceive Konkani or they put an excuse.

What it concerns to gods being a old or a new language???!!!

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Concerning to Slaves i shall discuss to you later. Be prepared to it.
-Take your own time dear and not only this we have many more ..!!

Now tell me.Do the almighty gods and goddesses perceive only Sanskrit and doesn't perceive other languages?!
-Kindly share your source for the above wrt to Vedas , ll be helpful in resolving this.

If gods and goddesses perceive all other languages why then in the poojaas are performed only in Sanskrit. Why not in my mother tongue Konkani.
-Kindly share the source

Do gods and goddesses perceive Konkani or they put an excuse
- First you have to clear me regarding gods & goddesses , where it is mentioned, what book, then we will see!!

What it concerns to gods being a old or a new language???!!!
-Same as above
Dhanyavad

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sam, world

vedaasthuthi, prior to Jesus people were not sinless and neither do we believe in fate or karma. As per Christian doctrine, humans are responsible for their actions alone and do not inherit or transfer their sins on another.

Original sin results from an action that took place at the garden of eden. There were no 10 commandments at this point in time :) God wanted man to be fruitful and multiply (no concern about over-population) and live happily in this Garden. God places one condition i.e. not to eat from the tree of knowledge with a warning (Genesis 2:17) which man breaks. How difficult is it to obey 1 condition? As per the Bible, Satan deceives Eve by speaking in a little truth mixed with lies and she and Adam decide to eat the forbidden fruit. From this point forward, humans inherit a fallen nature and experience death just as God predicted. Humans thereafter no longer need Satan and begin to succumb to the vices we know today as wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.

Karma may give you an answer to choices. But the question for you is - what is "good" karma? If a murderer kills 2 people and saves 4 people, is the net balance 2 people saved? If humans use this method to accumulate positive net balances, does that imply they are godly? Do the Vedas address the vices I mentioned above and why are they there and why does the human succumb to them?

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sam, world

vedaasthuthi, you have asked a good question i.e. How do you ( as a christian ) attain enlightenment? The question was posed to kuldesh because enlightenment is part of the Hindu belief. But if you are asking if christians attain enlightenment, then you have to tell us what is enlightenment.

I am glad that you understand that Big Bang is a theory. However I will disagree that Adam and Eve is simply a story. The Bible we Christians believe is the word of God. The contents within the Bible were passed down through both oral and written tradition as was done in most ancient cultures. If needed one can examine various records mentioned within the Bible and compare them with history. One can also examine the prophecies within the Bible and compare them with the actual events.

I do not believe there is any misleading in my comments at all. God created the first man and woman and we are all descendants of these humans. Unless you believe humans evolved from apes :) If vasudhaiva kutumbakam teaches we are one family, then how did this family originate?

Your next question enquires why the earth is divided into believers and non-believers. The answer vedaasthuthi is "choice"! God gives man free-will, without free-will one cannot choose to love another person and experience love in return. To love God, you must be free to do so. Unless you believe Good made us robots and demands we love him. Hence the idea of force conversion doesn't make sense. You cannot force someone to love you!

For your last point "every path leads to him". Can the path led in wickedness and a path led in righteousness lead to God? Is there any distinction between living a godly and ungodly life? Should we choose one over the other?

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam,world
"I do not believe there is any misleading in my comments at all. God created the first man and woman and we are all descendants of these humans. Unless you believe humans evolved from apes :) If vasudhaiva kutumbakam teaches we are one family, then how did this family originate? "
God created the first man and woman- Proof please ,
so i mentioned there is a diffence between theory and Fact!
Rahi baath man evolved from apes is also a theory and i did not consider vasudhaiva kutumbakam are the people who believes in Vedas but we believe all the people in this planet are one family without considering their belief/faith etc etc.
But you jumped on saying that we too have a similar concept that is adam and eve(so you mean to say adam & eve childrens continued!?) which concludes the same as vasudhaivakutumbakam and again you are saying god has given free will to belive in something but if that free will chooses other than jesus then he will be sent to hell?
Is this you call as “the world is one family” (condition if he only believes in jesus ,aadam & Eve !!)
FYI - the biological closest relative of humans are chimpanzees!!
Dhanyavad

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sam, world

Dear vedaasthuthi, udupi

"God created the first man and woman- Proof please" Then kindly explain how are we one family :) Does this family include rats, mongoose, cockroaches, lizards, etc.? vedaasthuthi, I can give you verses from the Bible that show that God created us and we are of one blood, but that might not be an answer you want to hear.

You mentioned "i did not consider vasudhaiva kutumbakam are the people who believes in Vedas but we believe all the people in this planet are one family without considering their belief/faith etc etc." OK, are you aware that vasudhaiva kutumbakam is taken from the Hitopdesha and Panchatantra? This saying is not found in the Vedas, Mahabharata, Puranas or Manusmriti. However, I still think this phrase is very similar to the Christian concept that we are of one blood.

You have posed another good question "god has given free will to belive in something but if that free will chooses other than jesus then he will be sent to hell?" The simple answer if you dont want to go to hell is believe in Jesus and follow him. This is not as easy as it sounds. :) Humour aside, you stated "karma means that there are choices in life. You have the right to choose the good and bad karma" Why does the person as per Hindu belief go through the karmic cycle? Why don't you say God has given free will to believe in something, but if that free will chooses bad things, they will never attain moksha? Why is moksha important?

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam,world
Pranaam..
Let me explain how Hinduism/vedas guides to attain enlightenment. There is one verse in Sanskrit :'' Dhyanatamani pashyanti kayachidatmanam atmana.''
Meaning : the meditation refines the intellect and expands it to realize the supreme soul that dwells in every being.It is meditation which can lift one from the mundane existence that is Prakriti to attain one's true Self that is Purush or the inner consciousness which is nothing but the manifestation of the Divine self(enlightenment)!!
dhanyavad

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Dear sam, world,

Go ahead, I am reading your comments. Wonderful.

And they shall know the truth and the truth shall triumph/find victory.

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

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Wilson Dsouza, Dubai marina

Now it's time for the truth. Time has come.. Lord jesus will reveal the masks of people.. Now see what happened on this month.. Its me the same guy who married hindu girl.. Now we are happy.. God blessed us by giving one child.. But my question is to all the people out there where are you people now who were very happy to comment in someone's life.. They can't even protect their community girls only. They are giving sexual harassment to their own community girls..

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Shridhar, Mangalore

The simple solution for this kind of Inter-Religious marriages is to go for court marriages where bride and groom are free to follow the religion of their choice... If you really love each other why the religion should come in between your marriage...

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

sam, world

Yes.. You can change the profession..
If you want to call it as a caste, it is up to you....!!!

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sam, world

@RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore
"If you want to call it as a caste, it is up to you"??

Bhagawad Gita 4:3 says
"According to the three modes of material nature and the work ascribed to them, the four divisions of human society (varna/caste system) were created by Me. And, although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the non-doer, being unchangeable."

Rig Veda 10:90:12
"The Brahman was his mouth, of both his arms was the Rajanya made. His thighs became the Vaisya, from his feet the Sudra was produced."

There are many many more examples. Do you still want to believe that "You can change the caste if you change the profession" are the teachings within Hindu belief?? Still trying to pull wool over the eyes?

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam,world
kindly go through my reply to adarniya vantage point and prem about varna/jati!!
Dhanyavad.

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kuldesh, bangalore

mr sam.again you are confusing the shloka.lord krishna is mentioning about the division of labour in creating a society.he did not divide the humans but the tasks to create a functioning society.
in puranas kings(kshatriyas) gave rishis(brahmins) thier daughters hand for marriage and vice versa.the great sage valmiki who was dacoit before wrote ramayana once he shun his bad path and enlightened.labour is divided and not man.same way no one is brahmin by birth,anyone can become brahmin if he follows the rigorus procedures mentioned in vedas and can become a brahmin.dronacharya was a brahmin but he used to fight in wars which was kshatriyas job.same in case lord parashuram(avatar of lord vishnu).caste sytem is created by man for his self interests.but in these days bcoz of large scale inter caste marriages in hindu society caste is slowly declining which is a good sign.

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sam, world

kuldesh, parts of my responses to vedaasthuthi as well as RSRB address your comments. I agree that that people like Valmiki, Dronacharya, etc. did tasks that were not part of the Varna system in which they were born. I am not sure if caste will decline within Hindu belief. People will definitely take advantage of certain benefits associated with caste in return for votes by the generous government :) Caste is intrinsic to the Hindu belief and removing caste means reinterpreting the sacred Hindu texts and creating a new Hinduism.

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sam, world

vedaasthuthi allow me to address some of your concerns.

"vasudhaiva kutumbakam and this teaching are found only in one faith." The Bible teaches we are all descendants of the first man and woman (Genesis). We are all one blood and thus your presumption that vasudhaiva kutumbakam if found in only one faith is not true.

Another common accusation is to point fingers at the Christians with regards to killing of Protestant, Catholics, etc. Why do these occur? Does the Hindu faith answer why humans harm one another? We know the answer to this question i.e. "Original sin", an answer you do not want to hear.

Rather than get into a theological discussion, the simple fact is, we sin on a daily basis an no matter what we try (puja, yoga, etc.), they all fall short.

The same issue can be seen in your blaming the westerner. Do you think Indians are any better? Hasn't the Indian subcontinent seen vast amounts of bloodshed even before Christianity appeared. Do we not harm our own kith and kin today?

The Bible already addresses this by saying that, there is none who is righteous before God and all have sinned which is why Christ came down to reconcile man with God. The punishment we truly and justly deserve for our actions was taken by Christ on the cross and it is only he who offers the free gift of eternal salvation for those who want to follow him.

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kuldesh, bangalore

mr sam,the man can never get enligtened if he thinks that his religion is superior than others.even if he is a scholar in his relegion he could not get the enligtenment and he cant be termed as scholar if he cant undertsand the simple fact that all humans and all animals and birds came from the lotus feet of one almighty who is called by different names.the tragedy of the humans is that they fight against each other for the same god who is called by different names.i think the most stupid creature in this earth are humans.animals are far better than humans.

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sam, world

"man can never get enlightened if he thinks that his religion is superior than others" How does one get enlightened? and how can an enlightened person know if he or she is enlightened?

To a certain extent, I agree that humans "fight against each other for the same god who is called by different names". But this is where the honest seeker must make the effort to search the truth. Truth never contradicts and can be verified. Superiority of religion may give a person a sense of pride, but in the end Truth is what matters.

Kuldesh, let me ask you, what if you followed a belief all your life (e.g. theory of evolution, dosas are the best meal, etc.) and were told it was true and you found it to be false in your search for truth? Would you still hold on to the belief you grew up with or would you go towards the truth even if it implies worldly rejection? As you go towards the direction of truth, do you think fightings will cease even when the truth stares in your face? Should the truth be bent?

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kuldesh, bangalore

mr sam,
i have billions of reasons to believe my religion is superior.that does not give me the right to criticize other religions.

i never believe even my own religion without questioning it.\ and verifying it to check weather it is the true source or not.whether it has been copied from other source or not.whether any human contamination is in it or not etc.this is the way a truth should be searched and understood.
truth need not be propagated or forced or opposed as no can destroy the truth and in the end truth only prevails.god is not such weak that he requires a human of flesh and blood created by him which cant even survive without his support to reveal the truth.each and every human knows that there is only one almighty who is all powerfull,compassionate,and creater and destroyer of this universe.some will call him lord mahadev.some will call him lord allah and some almighty the father.what difference it makes as everything is one and the same

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sam, world

@Kuldesh, again I state Superiority of religion may give a person a sense of pride, but in the end Truth is what matters AND Truth never contradicts. Why is this important?

You said "each and every human knows that there is only one almighty who is all powerfull,compassionate,and creater and destroyer of this universe.some will call him lord mahadev.some will call him lord allah and some almighty the father.what difference it makes as everything is one and the same"

Let me illustrate the problems with truth between the beliefs of Islam and Christianity. Hopefully this will illustrate my point. Islam believes in Allah, while Christianity believes in Yahweh. Islam denies the death, resurrection and divinity of Jesus, while Christianity believes in the death, resurrection and divinity of Jesus. Can both Islam and Christianity be true simultaneously?

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam, world
Namasthey..!!
Don't get offended dear , If we go through the pages of history then there are many things due to which humanity suffered!!
Are you really interested in addressing the concept of VEDAS & Bible here ,If yes then please reply ,lets see what are the loop holes we need to address in both the concept!
PS:I am not here to prove anything!!
Dhanyavad.

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sam, world

Go ahead vedaasthuthi and I will try to respond to your concerns. Hopefully the administrators will post my comments. Some of my posts went missing :)

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear sam,world
Pranam,
same here , most of my replies to you are missing!!
I wanted to know that did you go through history of chritianity ,how chritianity started, where and how divinity of jesus was approved ,bible(old,new,john,mathew) if yes then it will be helpful for both of us!
Dhanyavad

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frank, dxb

BD selfish new logo conversion by BD.. wats new name called banjargi jihad ..?

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prem, moodbidri

Wilson, You are a looser.
You asked help of Bajragis and they happily helped you in this matter.

In future, God forbid, if you fall sick, go to same Bajarangis for help and see if they will help you.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

I quote one comment of Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore Wednesday, September 10, 2014

YES BRITISH CAME AND CONVERTED SEVERAL PEOPLE TO CHRISTIANITY AND YOU ARE ONE OF THEM....... Unquote.

Wilson was forcibly converted to Hindu by the British???!!!

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Nancy, Mangalore, Dubai

Super Mr. Joe Gonsalves. you have commented absolutely right.

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sam, world

"How can BD ask/force Boy to get converted to Hinduism" Because they can! When reason fails, then threats emerge and for a people who are ignorant and insecure, the best weapon is to intimidate and threaten others to submit. Christ and the apostles had already forewarned that we Christians would have to pick up their cross and follow him. Didn't Jesus receive threats and go to the cross? Weren't the apostles, early church and subsequent followers throughout the centuries threatened and martyred? BD is one among the many who have persecuted Christians and many more will come as prophesied in the Bible. Yet the message of Christ stands firm and we must still love those who hate Christ and share the gospel as Christ taught us. Pray for both the Christians and non-Christians.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Heavy Rain.
Wilson is Main.
Sobin has no Pain.
Beautiful girl is Jain.
Loves Wilson to Gain.
Both have one Domain.
Bible Abel killed by Cain.
U.S. senator John Mc Cain.
Solemn marriage to Remain.
Jamaican Sprinter Bolt Usain.
B.D forcible conversion in Vain.
Now what do you say Mr. Flavian.
God bless you, wear karimani Chain.

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Langoolacharya., Belman/Washington,DC.

No Dukramaas for marriage party Josephaam???

You Sounded like US Nepham Bomb in Your pyramid...

...JH...

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Alben, India

What was with the crusades?. They were not christians?. Did they loose the cross and pick up the sword ?

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sam, world

What were the crusades? The crusades began with the retaliation when the muslims (Umayyad Caliphate) conquered the then lands of the Christian Byzantine Empire and the Visigothic Kingdom. It is no different from any other armed retaliation occurring due to territorial conquest e.g. the Chauhan Dynasty (Prithviraj Chauhan) retaliating against the conquest by the Ghurid Empire (Muhammad of Ghor).

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Dear Alben, India,

Show me one word Crusade from the whole of the Holy Bible and the Christians did not wage war in the name of Jesus or specifying scriptures as a source to wage war.

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ALWYN, CANADA

Christians are born to help others, carry cross and take the burden, humility and give everything even we have little that is what christ thought us and we continue to do every corner of this world. God will give this couple wisdom to do right things to grow in the life of life. GOD BLESS THOSE WHO REALLY HATE OUR SAVIOUR TO LOVE OTHERS, PEACE BE UPON THEM. BY FORCE PEOPLE CAN SCARE THIS BOY BUT IT IS A MATTER OF TIME THESE BD GANGSTERS WILL LEARN HOW EVIL THEIR MIND AND GOALS ARE. LIFE IS SHORT AND NEVER NO WHAT IS STORED IN OUR LIFE. IN SECONDS LIFE CHANGES A

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El, Mumbai

hi there was & also is ...caste system in Mangalorean Christians..namely TO BAMON ( Brahmin) TO CHARODI, TO GAUDI....

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Dear El, MumbaiFriday, September 12, 2014,

In the Holy Bible there is nothing of Bamun or Brahmin Charodi and Garodi or Parody Gowdi or Rowdi specified as castes in the scriptures.

You cannot promote your caste systems to Hindu caste systems.

Man was made from the dust and to the dust he will return.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

Corrrected message:

Now: You cannot promote your caste systems to Christian caste systems and there is no caste systems in the faith of Jesus.

(before:You cannot promote your caste systems to Hindu caste systems).

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
pranam ,
As you said there is no caste system mentioned in holy bible like wise there is no caste system in mentioned in our scriptures too!!
But these evil system were started by powerful people for their selfish purpose!
i don't want to go out of topic while replying to this ,when time comes we will confront on slavery etc etc!!
Dhanyavad

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Nayeem, Mangalore

I totally agree, if it is visa versa they would have called love jihad or maybe given new name.
Certain group of our great country is cancer .......

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Judith L, MUMBAI

All said and done our community should concentrate on quality rather than quantity only those who really believe and accept Christ teachings should follow Christianity. For other who convert to other religions for convenience should be let go we can concentrate on other major issues and help build our community and make it more qualitative, vibrant and help each other to meet our health, education, housing, employment goals these leave aside such minuscule matters.

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Mango, Mangalore

What an irony this fool seek help from BD instead of police.

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Proud Indian, Kulshekar/Mumbai

Had it been vice versa so faar so many people would have been in Hospital. All these Dals & Senes are meant for thod/phod only. In the picture one can clearly make out how happily the girl is walking with her husband without any fear. You fools please grow up.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Vintage Point ,Prem & all DW readers
I am not sure what people really understand to mean when they say “caste” is part and parcel of either India or Hinduism. The Portuguese Casta is one concept(The Portuguese concept of Casta does not apply to India or Hinduism). Jati also known as community is another concept. Non-hereditary Varna another concept!
Jaati means a classification based on source of origin. Nyaya Sutra states “Samaanaprasavaatmika Jaatih” or those having similar birth source form a Jaati and can be divided into 4 groups
Udbhija -coming out of ground like plants)
Andaja -coming out of eggs like birds and reptiles
Pindaja -mammals
and Ushmaj -reproducing due to temperature and ambient conditions like virus, bacteria etc
Similarly various animals like cat,dog,deer etc form different “JAATI” .
Now coming back to you question about shudra,brahmin…
The actual word used for Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra is ‘Varna’ and not Jaati.
FYI ‘Varna’ means one that is adopted by choice. Those who choose to be Arya are called ‘Arya Varna’. Those who choose to be Dasyu become ‘Dasyu Varna’. Same for Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra.so vedic dharma is called ‘Varnashram Dharma’. The word Varna itself implies that this is based on complete freedom of choice .
Often mantras of Purush Sukta are cited to prove that Brahmins originated from Mouth, Kshatriya from hands, Vaishya from thighs and Shudras from legs of God. Thus these varnas are birth-based. However nothing could be more deceptive.
Lets clear this misconception, the actual description for Brahman,kshathriya,vaishya and shudra are explained below.
Those involved in intellectual activities have chosen ‘Brahmin Varna’. Those into defense and warfare are ‘Kshatriya Varna’. Those in economics and animal rearing are ‘Vaishya Varna’ and those involved in other support functions are “Shudra Varna”. They refer merely to various choices of professions and have nothing to do with any Jaati or birth ,
KANAKADASA , a born sheperd who saw UDUPI KRISHNA and became the highest Brahmin!! Is an eg for your question (shudra can become brahmin too!)
So its clear that any one can chose ‘varna’ according to his/her choIce!!
Now ,If you ask whether shudra or kshathriya or vaishya can do pooja in a temple then the answere is ‘Yes’, as you see now a days most of the communities have their own temples where they personally do pooja (eg billava community),
People these days are slowly rejecting this evil based caste system which are created by powerful groups for their own selfish purposes.Hope one day this evil system ll be vanished from the society and people start to follow the real ‘Varnashram Dharma’!
Hinduism must be admired for not defending even worst practices like slavery and racism that has been halmark of Arab and Western culture for major part of history. Even today Arabs refuse to honor Indian Muslims because they feel Arabs

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Shridhar, Mangalore

We Hindu's can give so much intellectual arguments about Caste system or Jati.. or whatever you may call...but we fail when we can not all sit together and have a simple meal without bothering about our castes... here I am not just talking about Priestly castes but all the Caste Hierarchy...

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prem, moodbidri

If Wilson is influenced by Hindu religion and converted as Hindu, then I appreciate him.

If for a girl he converted to other religion, not an issue but not appreciable. Because, usually it is bride accepts her grooms family name/surname or his religion.

If he converted for the pressure from Sanghees or Bajrangis, then shame on him.

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Judith L, MUMBAI

the story stays girl is 18 yrs then how come police did not give protection. The boy should have taken community help instead of releneting to bajrangis.

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Judith L, MUMBAI

This is only the beggining for this boy since he is forcibly converted now he will have to bow every time to the girl, her parents and bajrangi demands.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

There is no caste system in Christians. Some are called dalit Christians and it was not prevalent time immemorial. This was done by few years back by few of them to obtain government funds and recognition not otherwise.

PROTESTANTS, NEW LIFE, PENTECOSTS ARE ALL DENOMINATIONS AND NOT CASTE. MARRIAGE IS POSSIBLE AMONG EACH OTHER WITHOUT ANY OBSTRUCTIONS AND HINDRANCES.

Syrian Christian, Roman Catholic are all they follow their guru in Syria and Rome in Italy. These are not castes.

THE RSS FUNDOOS WANTED TO DEVIATE THEIR CASTE SYSTEM TO OTHER FAITH PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PRESERVE THEIR CASTE SYSTEM AND PROVE TO OTHERS AND IT IS WORTHLESS.

Shivalli Brahmans are most high caste, Rao and GSB are lesser than Shivalli.

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Precci, Mangalore

He is 21 she is 18 its still long way to go hope it will work together lets wait & watch for time being ...... lets hope they will change their mind in coming up years...

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Annie Colaco, Mumbai

Sam,

Their policy is - Thum kiya tho Chamathkaar, Hum kiya tho Balaathkhaar. All these Dals are ...........

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naWfAlL JaAnN, Bajpe

Mr.Annie Colaco
Hum Kiyatho Balathkar nahi
LOVE JIHAD..........Kehthe hey Log
Kya Duniya Hey yaaar

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JNB, Bejai

It is a good idea to make fools to FOOL.

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Albert, Mangalore

Married couple must be enjoying their honeymoon. But jobless religious minded idiots are making big noise!!

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christine, manglore/kuwait

In marriage love or proposal, willingly couple knot than only can lead successful life,
marriage is not a two days game Just married who know about feature how will be, without building relation cannot be strong, uptown comes, they have to build life, staying together recognizing the weakness and strength, happiness or sad, understanding, adjusting and experiencing each other than only come to know what relationship or marriage covenant is.
Many foolishly in blind love married and broken, living life of hell. wish this not happen with them and regret later. May God grant them enough knowledge, understanding and wisdom, keep them in patience in the time of trouble, to lead a good, strong and long married life.
They are too young, need support. Now already married. Our comments, guidance, knowledge or gossip is not use for them, so instead of disturbing, its better wish them, encourage them to live good life.

all have freedom to choose how they want to live life,religion,and why here they urged the boy to convert to Hinduism. if he wanted to convert will fully than before asking he was done that

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Pramod, Kundapura

if he doesnt reconvert then u r fool

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Annie Colaco, Mumbai

Pramod - There is no re-conversion. For us we believe in only one God.

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vannu, mangalore

yes i agree in Muslim and Catholic the education is given to the children of the their faith. It is not there in Hinduism because it is done only by upper caste of Hindu's. and they have kept the others out of all these knowledge

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Pramod, Kundapura

if boy has lost his religion why are you heated up? if he was given threats then police is there to handle it you need not worry mr religious mind..

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annie colaco, mumbai

Lol

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simple, bangalore

Ravi, Kavoor

Have you ever heard of
H Y P O C R I T E S ?
They are called BDs in Karnataka.

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N.M, Mangalore

this is uneducated bidhi bajrang dal style - trishul cum lathi talwar jihaed!

BD is an organization filled with semi literate, goons and criminals who have no understanding about Core Hinduism.

They are the isil or talibhan faction of Hinduism.

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lorry, udupi/abudhabi

daiji world please post news after one year of their marriage life

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Roshan, Dubai

it is the every individuals right to be or not to be in any kind of religion. No one can and should force them. Parents blessing is important to live long happy life. We are living in a society where we respect each other and depend on each in one or other way. Its better not to comment whether what they did right or wrong, but to with them better life together ahead irrespective of religion.

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cyril mathias, udupi

Indian Constitution allows any adult of any caste to marry any boy or a girl.A boy marrying a girl is no news.i am curious to know to which caste the boy must belong?.If he is converted as a brahmin,let us all support and encourage such inter caste marriage.

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

cyril mathias, udupi

There is caste system in Hindus..
Whatever is only professions...
You can change the caste if you change the profession....
In Gokarna Naatha temple, Mangalore, you see a rolemodel system....

What about RC & Protestant??
Wht about Sunni & Shia???

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Vantage Point, mangalore

@RSRB ...sunni shia or protestant or catholic is ideological difference same like...in Hinduism where we have shaivism..and vaishnavism....But brahmin or shudra is not a ideological difference but "Birth difference"...A sunni can become shia or vice versa same with catholic and protestant...can a shudra change to brahmin...or brahmin to shudra...???

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Vantage Point, mangalore

I gave several examples in this news of changing the caste, as caste is nothing but profession...
Still are you asking same question?

By the way, you mentioned Shivism & Vaishnavism... But I have seen Hindus going to both temples, have both idols at home, keep both names to their kids like Shivarama....

By the way, can you give good example of Sunni converted to Shia or RC converted to Protestant??

My question remains here again regarding Dalit Christians...
Why they are stil called Dalit, even after changing the religion?
What will be their surnames?
I mean D'Souza? D'Mello? D'Costa? D'Silva?
Why there is hesitation to marry Dalit Christian?

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Vantage Point,manglore
I am not sure what people really understand to mean when they say “caste” is part and parcel of either India or Hinduism. The Portuguese Casta is one concept(The Portuguese concept of Casta does not apply to India or Hinduism). Jati also known as community is another concept. Non-hereditary Varna another concept!
Jaati means a classification based on source of origin. Nyaya Sutra states “Samaanaprasavaatmika Jaatih” or those having similar birth source form a Jaati and can be divided into 4 groups
Udbhija -coming out of ground like plants
Andaja -coming out of eggs like birds and reptiles
Pindaja -mammals
and Ushmaj -reproducing due to temperature and ambient conditions like virus, bacteria etc
Similarly various animals like cat,dog,deer etc form different “JAATI” .
Now coming back to you question about shudra,brahmin…
The actual word used for Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra is ‘Varna’ and not Jaati.
FYI ‘Varna’ means one that is adopted by choice. Those who choose to be Arya are called ‘Arya Varna’. Those who choose to be Dasyu become ‘Dasyu Varna’. Same for Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra.so vedic dharma is called ‘Varnashram Dharma’. The word Varna itself implies that this is based on complete freedom of choice .
Often mantras of Purush Sukta are cited to prove that Brahmins originated from Mouth, Kshatriya from hands, Vaishya from thighs and Shudras from legs of God. Thus these varnas are birth-based. However nothing could be more deceptive.
Lets clear this misconception, the actual description for Brahman,kshathriya,vaishya and shudra are explained below.
Those involved in intellectual activities have chosen ‘Brahmin Varna’. Those into defense and warfare are ‘Kshatriya Varna’. Those in economics and animal rearing are ‘Vaishya Varna’ and those involved in other support functions are “Shudra Varna”. They refer merely to various choices of professions and have nothing to do with any Jaati or birth ,
contd...

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Cntd….
KANAKADASA , a born sheperd who saw UDUPI KRISHNA and became the highest Brahmin!! Is an eg for your question (shudra can become brahmin too!)
So its clear that any one can chose ‘varna’ according to his/her choice!!
Now ,If you ask whether shudra or kshathriya or vaishya can do pooja in a temple then the answere is ‘Yes’, as you see now a days most of the communities have their own temples where they do pooja (eg billava community),
People these days are slowly rejecting this evil based caste system which are created by powerful groups for their own selfish purposes.Hope one day this evil system ll be vanished from the society and people start to follow the real ‘Varnashram Dharma’!
Vantage point, manglore
May I know what ideological difference you mentioned between shia/sunni or protestants/catholics ?
Lets analyze and see whether its true!
Awaiting your reply.
Dhanyavad

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sam, world

"You can change the caste if you change the profession" ??? - RSRB, can anyone in Hinduism become a Brahmin if they wanted to? Can a low caste Hindu start officiate temple ceremonies? Also can a Brahmin become a low caste member of Hinduism if they wanted to? The whole notion of changing caste based on profession is lip service and words to pull wool over the eyes.

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Prem, mangalore

There is cast system in every relegion.....In Konkani Catholics......we are following the same cast system, our ancestor were......Bramin....Gowdas,....Charudies,.....khathriyas.....sc.st etc....

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stan, dubai

I am Bramin Christian. If I convert to Hinduism which caste I am entitled to go. Do they take me in Bramin Caste???

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Anil shetty, udupi perdoor

Wilson, Wish You Happy Married Life.

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alex, mangalore

''What will you gain if you win the whole world and lose your soul'' converting to other religion only to get married isn't a great thing . Best is the boy or girl marry the one from their own community for Xian conversion to other religion means faith change and soul loss.

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Jayanth, Bangalore

Many are claiming as though this guy was dragged out and converted. No, he got involved with a hindu girl just 18 so her parents have every right to demand the marriage according to their traditions and customs. By obliging, now girls parents are happy and their happiness is important for the successful married life. Only Jealous Secular commentators are unhappy.
Many fundamentalists here just wanted girl to be converted and cut off from her parents.

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Krishna, Malpe

Mind blowing answer madam. Thank u.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Lets keep aside how hindu people were living in society!!

By reading your comment i pity on you and your hatred towards one religion without knowing the basic teachings of it!
Commenting on BD's/goons work would have been appreciated but your comments clearly shows your inferiority complex on the path you are following !!
Hope you would refrain commenting next time as above.
PS:I have been reading your comments on women rights and appreciate your thoughts !!
Dhanyavad

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lawrence, abudhabi mangalore

Ek chotisi baath kisika samaj me nahin aaye.ye love ke liye nahin jeene ke liye kuch bi karega.agar wo ladki ko cristian bana letha B.D R.S aur baki sab unko maar dalenge.isliye ladkene apna dhimak sahi ladaya.aaj sabke saamne hindu bangaya kal kaun poochnewala he wo RAM ko Poojtha he ya JESUS ko.what an idea sirji.SHADI MUBARAK HO WILSON no RAKESH.

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Ajay, Mangalore

Why they haveto marry a second time. Once they are married they are married for ever. They cannot be bachelors. Marriage has become a joke for some. May God bless them and them be happy. Beware of people who make disturb you in the future. Both of them have no experience.Think before u act

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Raghav, mangalore

And we live in the 21st century and dream of becoming a superpower one day..hahahahha

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Vivil Naman, Mangalore/Bangalore

When I read this Incident the following questions come to my Mind. Can any one answer me?

1. This News does not give the details of wilson's whereabouts. It just says they met each others relatives house. Any one knows Where this Wilson is from?
2. This News says that they Married according to Christian Law... Now the question Where was their Christian wedding? Who solemnized it?
3. For a Catholic Christian to get married a Non Christian in the Church, need to get Permission( Dispensation) from the Bishop of his diocese where he belongs to. Has he got it?
4.Is he real Christian or ONLY bears a Christian Name.
5. Is not this an forcible conversion which is against the law of our country. Now why Police is quiet without arresting the people who have forced Wilson?

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victor, mangalore

This is called as trishul prema matantara....Definitely BD goons forced the boy to convert or compelled to convert for safety of his life coz he cant live being married to a hindu under BD's threat....Thank god girl didnot convert to christianity or else it would hav been big news in national media....Only people can convert to hinduism the otherway is dealt with threat

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Aubb, Kuwait

Legal action must be taken again BD activists, and others who interfered in the personal matter of individuals and converting a Christian to Hinduism by force, and threats.

Christians should unite and challenge this evil phenomenon head on, without wasting time.

Matter must be taken up to the Home minister to stop moral policing and interference in the personal matter of any individuals.

Jai Hind.

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Peter Lewis, Kalmady/k s a

Bajrang Dal this is too much.

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Sam, Udupi

wow....if it would be vise versa...like girl converted to Christianity than there would be a grt fight by stupid bj dal...nd now wen thy have converted guy to hindu its a great deed by them....wat a third class thinking.....shame on u guys who support all these bull$$it's.....if love for each other is true then i dont think religion has to do any thing in between them...no conversion necessary frm christn to hindu or vise versa....this shows that bajrang dal ppl are uneducated brats...pity on u guys...

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Vasudev Bhat, Rayee/Roma

Dear RSRB, my father was Brahmin and people consider me as Brahmin and even today they call me Bhatre. my caste is inherited and religion is also inherited...in your case too...now the point mentioned by you put yourself and ask yourself same question to you and answer. it is very clear what you feel same thing others feel.

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Annie Colaco, Kulshekar/Mumbai

Ambrose,

Bajrang Dal must have given him life threatening. Hence the poor boy had no choice but to change his religion.

It is by force not by choice.

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ajay hubert, mangalore

great foolishness Wilson....

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christine, manglore/kuwait

They married according their desire, I wish them happy long married life. May God bless their marriage, What God joined let man not separate in them.
( I feel they too young don’t know much understanding and knowledge. but I am not against them too)
They can allowed to follow their own will, religion and live together in love. love has no religion.
Why this BD made forcible conversion?
When willfully without force converted than creating lots problems, attacks and now is this not forcible convert?.

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Dhanraj BLR, Bangalore

How can BD ask/force Boy to get converted to Hinduism??(not sure here Boy converted as per his dicretion or due to force) when they themselves have warned him against converting his girl to christainity!!!! Is this not the act of pseudoism?? Its like 'Tum Karo tho atyachaar magar main karu tho Chamatkaar"...God save this land!!!

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Charles D'Mello, Pangala

RSRB

Is it necessary that one has to follow any religion..?? Is it necessary to be a good human being one has to believe in God..??? If these religions and Gods are coming our way to be good human being, who loves others as he likes to be loved, then I think all these religions and Gods are nonsense created by cunning human beings to ruin harmony.

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Nancy, Belman

Why are you making noise? why cant you go Jammu Kashmir? Let them do-write what they want and you do your work. You are no one to tell what others must do.

And conversion-marriage-publicity, ultimately these 2 individuals have to live their life and exactly after few months or after one child they will come to know what is wedded life.

Most of us say, if love is there nothing comes in between but in actual all customs/traditions/culture will come in mid way of their life.

Hope and pray that should not affect much in these both's life and may there be understanding/sacrifice and adjustment between them.

All the very best.

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Nancy, Belman

Ghar Vapasi.....

then why leaving Hindustan and putting Tent in other countries?? Why they cant work in Hindustan? Wah re!! they can act/live as they want. But others should not!!!!

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Dinesh, Mangalore

SHHHHHH!!!! Lot of noise here. Please maintain silence and let the newly married couple enjoy their honeymoon!!
Those who still want to make noise sitting at home, should go to Kashmir and help our brave armed forces in evacuating flood affected victims!!! Let your bravery come into good use!!Thank you.

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N.M, Mangalore

@ rambo feku will go and rescue them single handedly.

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Af, mangalore

In this case some one may be threatened him to convert,
if he really loves her he would have married by law.
there are hundreds of such couple in around society keeping religion faith alive.

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Judith L, MUMBAI

It is the opposite of what you are saying Mostly Christians are well off and nobody converted by force or money. neither the Britisher converted . Pls. read the history properly before blabbering. It is quite evident from this story who are really converting people by force.

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A.M Shaikh, Dubai, Belapu, Kaup

Wilson,
Very good act in front of BD goons. keep it up Jesus help you.

WISH YOU A LONG AND HAPPY MARRIED LIFE.

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Ambrose, Vijaypura

Shame on you Mr Wilson for deserting your roots, who have made you what you are today. Ungrateful to the core!

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Jayanth, Bangalore

At 21 this guy must be still in final year of college if he is studying and jobless..this love is just hysteria. I think educated and smart christian girls wouldn't have fallen for this guy.
Anyhow Langoor ke muh mein angooor

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ZAMEER, UDIPI

bride Mashaallah beutiful "pyar ke liye kuch be karega" result wait and see 2 SHADI - WILSON SHOBINI / RAKESH SHOBINI MUBARAK HOO

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Raj Amin, udupi

Welcome back to sanathan dharma...
Wish u happy married life Rakesh and shobhini...

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Dear Intellectuals,

May please clarify following points:

(a) Is it compulsory to follow religion just because our parents followed it?
(b) We are attaching a religion to an infant child. Is it not force? Did child ask for it?
(c) Will you agree to keep the children away from religion till they attain an age of 18 and then give options?

These doubts keep coming to me always, hope someone will clarify it without any prejudice...

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stan, dubai

I agree with his comments. But just give your preaching to Bajrangdal/culture/religion...

They are always making noise about
others who accept the faith as they like.

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stan, dubai

correction

But just give your preaching to Bajrangdal/Ramasena They are always making noise about
others who accepting the faith/culture/religion/dressing as they like.

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vellano1, Mumbai

STAN, no need to teach BD that atleast! No hindu kid is ever asked to read geeta/holy scriptures, accept dharma, or any special programs! (except Brahmins, who give Janivara to their kids), they r not even taught how to pray! just going temple, and folding hands, infront of every elder , godly person is all that they r taught.. rest its enjoyment!..

however, holy communion, (be it boy or girls),altar mass worship, sunday compulsory mass, madrassa education, Namaaz! are followed in other faiths! disgaree??

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sam, world

RSRB, here are responses to your questions with more questions :)

a) No it is not compulsory to follow religions that your parents followed. God has given everyone free will. But how will you respond when that free will is taken away because one denomination calls it "forced conversion", while the other calls it "ghar vapasi"? Why the hypocrisy, double speak and threats?

b) If the issue is that we are attaching a religion to the child and it is force on the child, then why do we give birth to a child in this world? and hence why do we give birth to children?

c) Should a farmer take care of his farm or should he let the plants in his farm grow in the wild? Hence should the parent teach the child matters related to God or not?

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Jude , belman

Many catholic girls doing love marriage with other religion boyes and converting to their religion.i will ask one question to all catholic girls who doing this.if your love is so puree, idol,sacred than Jesus love.ask u r boy convert to your religion.if he not ready and ask u to follow his one.means it's a LOVE JIHAD OR GAR VAPASI OR TIMEPASS.wake up.god bless

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Raj Amin, udupi

Agree with you bro...

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Hamdan, Udupi/Dubai

Other part of story missing that the guy was forced to convert.

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R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

Leave controversies about conversion aside, I ask you...
Suppose a Guy or Gal converts...
1. What difference does it make it to him/her or the society at large?
2.Dooes it change the 'behavorial pattern' of the converted?
3. Does any 'organ' of the converted change or gets better?
4.Does the 'thinking process' or the blood group change?
5. Do his/her parents or even the lineage change?? he may have new friends but do the 'old' change?
6. Is there a change for any better? No... A temporary solution taken resort to to encounterthe 'circumstances'he/she find themselves in! these 'circumstances' may change any time..any place!
therefore in this present era not much importance should be attached to all these gimmicks.
Pure Love is above 'Conversion'and all such related gimmicks.
To tell you my own story:
1.Loveena never asked me to convert during our hey days.
2. To tell you really 'religion' was never in our mind those days!
3.The 'elders' had though and somehow managed a wedge like the parents here tried unsuccessfully.
4. Only that I was left with was a 'broken heart' and with a fluency to speak Christian language!!

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Dev, Mangalore

Rightly said R.B.
1.I personally know One GSB married a Christian girl after converting, but has Ganesh Idol in his car & house.
2.A Christian Boy marrying a GSB girl without converting her in a church & she celebrates all Hindu Festivals including Deevali & Onam.
Both the above are from my family.
Both couples have their own share of problems just like any other couples.
What Matters is How they manage their LIFE.

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anil dsilva, adyar-mangalore

Hey John liked ur comment... the true is there is no proper and safe place for B.DALLS in the western countries..

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Hamdan, Udupi/Dubai

Dear Bro Suresh, Mangalore,

According to BD its "SANATHAN JIHAD".

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McQueen, Mangalore

leave them alone, and let them figure out life for themselves, as someone else has said too. religion wont feed them

its too young an age to get into wedlock. marriage will be an eye opener.

if there is understanding between them, then they can have a happy married life.

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Suresh Shetty, Mangalore

A complete CRIME PATROL episode.
Climax: Bajarangi enters into scene.
Who are they ?
Villain or Police.... bull##it they are uncultured citizens of India who pretend to be the follower of Lord Hanuman. Idiots know only to play around which is none of their business.

Converting is not a sin nor crime. But converting is " Loosing yourself".
You loose your faith in God, loose faith in parents & finally loose yourself.

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Nitin, Udupi

Love Jihad from BD!!!!

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shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

Who is funding moron BD?...

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Some people here are talking as if they took up the religion by understanding what it is......

Unfortiunately they have taken their religion by birth & trying to prove that is the best just because it is came to them by their parents...

If they love so much to parents religion, then why not love parent's parent's religion, and their parent's parent's parent's, and so on...

People ready to pardon those who forcibly converted their forefathers enmass without reason.
But when BD does it to ensure the married life is smooth for the couple, you have no appreciation..

If they are

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

RSRB,

Put a break to your blabbering - I am telling you this, irrespective of what your religion may be - please study history of religions in India.

Study who introduced Vedic System to India and study what method of worship tribes in India were following. Do study how objects of their worship like Sun, Moon, Earth, dead souls or even a piece of rock projected as deity by the tribes was transformed into Indra, Varun, etc.

Do study who introduced caste system saying Brahmans came from the head of Brahma (hence are qualified to study/preach holy scriptures), Kshatriyas from the hands (hence are warriors), Vaishyas from the legs (hence are wander doing trade) and Shudras from legs (hence are doing service like cleaning, etc.)

Don't hallucinate being under a belief that India was originally a Hindu nation ! If ancient tribes could be converted as Hindus, so they can chose to be Jains, Budhists, Sikhs as well as Muslimis and Christians.

You have no right to criticize just Muslims and Christians just because they don't affiliate to Hinduism ! Justify why Jains, Budhists, sikhs, or other groups had to be created breaking away from original Hindu fraternity ! Study why Baba Ambedkar sanskratized thousands of Mahar community followers to Budhism hurt bu the discrimination they were treated with.

(I am away for the rest of the day, will discuss all of you toss your arms at me in reply to this comment, at a later time)

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

RSRB,

One more thing I left out - Why did a Basavanna, a Brahmin and high post holder at the royal court of his time, had to abandon his position and create a sect Lingayats ?

Ghar-Vaapasi ? For who ? Christians and Muslims only ? Why not you Hindus to your original tribal belonging ? Ponder young man.. ponder..

You are hypnotized to such an extent that no Mahaveera, Gautam Budha, Jesus Christ, Mohamad Paigambar, Basavanna nor even Sai Baba could reach out to your rotten hearts !

Frogs you are who think Hinduism is the oldest religion - there was no religion at all ! If at all you can't come to terms with this truth, at-least do not castigate others who understood this and let them leave in peace !

Hypocrites ! Utter hypocrites who celebrate Ghar-vaapasi of other but do not know their own roots !

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KKR, Mangalore

Lydia Lobo, you can’t make Hindus fool by typing all irrelevant quotes ..now days in digital age We Hindus irrespective of our cast have an access to all our scriptures and we very well understood now our scriptures never endorsed castisam as quoted by some western interests..so you cannot make Hindhus ULLU now by quoting castisam..

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Lydia Lobo, Kadri

You are talking about castes in Hindus...
I did a deep study and without that it would not make me to respect the Hindu religion more than my "so called religion by birth".....

Let me quote something from "Mahabharatha", where Dharmaraya has to solve the problem as follows....

A gang of 4 robbers belong to Brahmin, Kshathriya, Vaishya & Shooddra were caught and brought to court for legal action. How Dharmaraya solves it is amazing... What punishment he gives to each is fantastic...

Dronaacharya was born to a brahmin but he was excelled in archery and become Kshathriya. He was one of the commander in Mahabharatha Yudhdha...

Nowhere in Hinduism tells bahmin's children should be brahmins ..... and similarly others children need to follow the respective caste...

When 9th avathar of Vishnu born as Gauthama did not like to be a king. He wanted to be a monk. The religion not only allowed for it, later considered him as one of the Gods. That much tolerant is the religion.

Hindus have no hesitation in taking food in the house of Christians... But when one of our Hindu friend brought Tirupathi Laddu, some of the Christians did not even touch it. What is wrong in taking a Laddu at least as sweet? Jesus did not teach this.. then who taught this???

Hindus do not mind worshipping any Gods... Some temples in South East Asia, I have seen Jesus idol in Hindu Temple...
Can you show me any such church which has mention of "Geeta" or "Quran"... I hope you will...

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Lydia lobo ,
I doubt on your source...
Are you serious?

May i know where did you get these infos!!? coz it will be helpful to clear all your doubts about
Bharath 's history/vedas/vedic system/caste system(which you mentioned about brahman,kshathriya,vyshya,shudra) etc etc ..mean time let us try to discuss the other two great religions(about chritisnity in specific and share your thoughts) & how it came in to existence..!!
Kindly do not post false info , if you are not sure about it!!
Dhanyavad

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vedaasthuthi, udupi

Dear Lydia lobo,kadri
Lying is old trade of an idle brain dear!!
Reading history is well and good, but you should be biased when commenting!!

Are you ashamed of the country from where you are ?
Does it matter if you believe in some faith and working abroad for livelihood is punishable or get cheap remarks?
You might have not read about this "The world is one/my family" ie vasudhaiva kutumbakam and this teaching are found only in one faith.
Did you read these events which is well documented - killing of protestants by catholics torture and murder of heretics and witches by ''God's people''?
Isn't it true that white westerners invaded the continent of Africa and eradicated cultures and imposed christianity on them forcefully ?
why there are numerous creeds in christianity if Bible is an official holy book for all christians ?
Still there are few more...!!
Dhanyavad

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Ajay, Mangalore

The point Lydia was asking was, what was the belief system in India before Hinduism came to India in the real historical sense, not mythological. There where tribes in India living and practicing a certain way of life, before Hinduism(vedic religion) came to the country 5000 years ago form central Asia.

I hope it clarifies.

I know you answer would be to say that Vedic religion is native to India which is the Sangh Parivar propoganda.

But you ought to know what historians world wide do not share that view of Sangh Parivar and history as it is taught by eminent historians world wide shows that Vedic religion came to India from central Asia and was not native to India.

When you say Ghar Vapasi to Hinduism then you display ignorance of the history as it is scientifically known.

Ghar Vapasi should mean back to our tribal and animistic belief roots which was the religion or the aborigines of the land.

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kuldesh, bangalore

mr ajay before hinduism is the world there was no concept of world order
or traditions and no guide or holybook for the mankind to have a respected and moral way of living.thats why the issue of what was there before hinduism like man wandering naked, no concept of family and relation is a non issue as humans were just evolving from thier ancestore who are apes.a complete human is different from apes.

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Lydia Lobo, Kadri

I asked some clarification already, anyway will type for you again, as you need not have to waste searching for it...

(a) Is it compulsory to follow religion of parents just because our parents followed it?
(b) We are attaching a religion to an infant child. Is it not force? Did child ask for it?
(c) Will you agree to keep the children away from religion till they attain an age of 18 and then give options? Till then give expsure of all religions to the children....

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Jayanth, Bangalore

Hello Lydia
1. It is a myth that there is no casteism in Chritianity and Islam especially in sub continent. Leave India, Even if you check Pakistani muslim matrimonials you can see castes and subcastes mentioned like Rajput/Rana.
2. Sects and offshoots from a old religion is common in history, If basavanna is there then Martin Luther is also there.

There is no perfect religion which can be accepted by all 7 billion people in this world, so using this argument all preachers must stop claiming that their faith is perfect.

This guy did this second marriage in hindu customs so that he can bring some relief to the parents of the girl.
Now dont claim girl is independent above 18 etc...even parents have some rights.

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sanjay, shivapura

Wait & see. In a year or two entire thing will be reversed. Because the other party is silent operators.

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Mukesh, Mangalore

God Bless you both. Live long life.

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Narayanan Laxmanan, Udupi

"Meanwhile, activists of Bajrang Dal who too had arrived at the court premises allegedly WARNED the girl and the boy against conversion to Christianity, and URGED boy to CONVERT to HINDUISM"

Now.. who is forcibly converting whom??

Shame on you Bajrangis.....
You Follow monkey.. n throughout your life u will be monkeys...

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Sowmya rai, Mumbai

She left everything for love non issue!
He left his religion become big issue!

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Joseph D' Souza, Mangalore

Sowmya Rai, Mumbai
His conversion to Hinduism is also a non-issue here, since this is his personal right.

The issue here is the role of the so called Bajrangi goons who warned the girl against embracing Christianity and forcing the boy to become Hindu. They were happily married and the boy himself had issued a statement saying he does not expect his lady love to become Christian and nor did anyone in Christianity object to it. In fact there are umpteen number of cases where non of the non-Christian partners have changed their religion. So the question here is about the pharisaic mentality of this fringe group. Shenava as an advocate has gone against the constitution and he should not be allowed to practice law as he is biased and unworthy of his profession

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Sowmya rai, Mumbai

Joseph, am not seeing any panic or fear in either boy or girls face!! looks like most of comments here influenced by ego like my religion best then others! thts it

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Joseph D' Souza, Madanthyar

Sowmya Rai
If this comment projects YOUR mental status then I have no comments. But if you think others are thinking like you then you are mistaken. No commentators who criticized the BD has said his or her religion is better of worse.

This in not about religion but about issue of social justice and respect to ones freedom

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Sowmya rai, Mumbai

Joseph D' Souza, ..Any sensible person can clearly make out after reading all the comments ..what I said was correct!

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sam, world

If catholic girls want to marry non-catholics, it is their free choice, but they should be prepared to face the consequences just as Mr. Rakesh and Mrs. Shobini will have to face their decisions. There is no point in crying over spilled milk. Also Catholic boys need to be taught by the Church to become Men. Christ did not come down and go to the cross, so that future generation of disciples would become pansies. How many of these boys or even men take Christ seriously? Do they know the price he paid on the cross?

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John, Kulur

These BD's should be sent out of this country to fulfill their conversions.I observed that he girl looks like a christian. I think both look vice versa.

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maxy, kinnigoly/mumbai.

may be a great bold reported precedence lead by RAKESH.live EXAMPLE & roll model for those leaders(religious)now to come forward & bless the couple &raise the toast in public felicitation as they preach & don`t practice inter religious/community harmony.
tell me now. which leader will take a lead in this.
surly,no one since they are worried only about no.s.
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M.R NAZAR, BYNDOOR

Best acting by Mr.Wilson , Bajjarnggi dalla ko ullu banaya

wish u happy married life..... God bless them

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Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

M.R NAZAR, BYNDOOR
I agree with your comments.

Quote:

Best acting by Mr.Wilson , Bajjarnggi dalla ko ullu banaya

wish u happy married life..... God bless them.

Unquote:
We wish them all the best.

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RSRB, Kundapura / Signapore

M.R NAZAR, BYNDOOR

Agar Rakesh fir convert ho gaya tho Ulloo BD huwa...
Nahin tho? Aap sab log Ulloooooo....!!!

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KKR, Mangalore

she left her parents..he left his religion ..TRUE LOVE seems to be winner here..god bless you both!!

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Amita,

well done congrats both of you.You the best lovers. love and live and face the society.

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Rudolf, Mumbai

Nice to see a smart young couple happily married, but life is not 'easy' as portrayed on celluloid and in novels!!!

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AA, Doha Qatar

WA ONJI PORLUDA JODI... MADE FOR EACH OTHER... KUSIT BALULE... "JATHI JATHI YENDU KUGADERE THAMMA... JATHIYALLI YENU ADAGIDE NAMMA KARMMA.".PORLUDU ASIVADA MALPULE.. SADA SUKOTU EPPADU... YENNALA HRDYATHUBINA ASIRVADA NIKALEKU.....

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Ajay, Maangalore

Wilson and Shobini are really bread minded people.

The BJD people who have caused the commotion by interfering in their private lives are illiterate buffoons.

And the educated people who support the actions of BJD they are probably worse.

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Rita, Germany

These Young People did the right Thing.proof of their love got married each other without forcing the other to convert.And again BD.Why should other People mix in their affair when already married.They may not find difficulties in their life now but later when children ,functions are there to celebrate then arise the discussions.But they have decided and will also may shoulder it.Third Party should not make more Problems.Let them livee their life.They are happy and we wish them all the best.

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abu haroon, karnad Mulky

don't understand ..is that boy so clever or BD are fools?

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zain, mangalore

Of course BD are fools...lol

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Gerald Dsouza, Riyadh.

Bride is beautiful.

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Vicky D, Dubai

Convert aagtheera?

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IshwaraA, Dubai

After invasion by Mugals & Britishers many Indians converted from Hindu religion, some out of fear or some for benefits.
Hindu religion never believed in conversion, In fact they were quite negligent about their own religion until other religions showed them path of holy war..
God bless the couple

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Chandra, Mangaluru

Dear Eshwarappa,
British were ruling erstwhile India for more than 200 years. By forceful conversion India could have been predominant Christian Country today, but it is not so. Still Christians are less than 2% in India. We have received many good things from British. You have seen the administration of our Desi Leaders during these post Independent years. I want to add that thousands of Indians have settled permanently in UK, USA etc. Can you reply why, dear Mr. Eshwarappa?

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Vantage Point, ma

Lol...what are you doing in a occupiers country...lol...

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jeevan, mangalore

Wish you happy married life...
As it is true love I feel conversion ( boy / girl ) is not required at all in this case..

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Abdul Jabbar, Mangalore

Now u r talking sense Mr Jeevan...One more thing..

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Vasant Raj, Mangalore / Abudhabi

What ever...the boy has joined his Original cast....

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Anitha, Udupi/USA

Vasant Raj, you are worst than Bajrangi.

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veera pinto, mangalore

Vasanthraj
U gave up cast to earn money leaving ur country.

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Kudla first, mangalore

Mr. RSRB
Your comment should be sent to comedy nights with kapil ..m sure he will make a good script out of it ..:p
waise who gave u such feku gyaans ??? deserves to get best feku of the year :p

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Allan D'souza, Udupi

Unless you learn to start typing in small letters your sentences look ridiculous and pathetic.

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Rems, Qatar

Hudugigaagi jaathi bittu yellara kannige mannu haakuva naataka yestu dina maadiyaanu ? Kaadu nodabekashte.

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Clifford, Mangalore

Love Jhiad under BJP government at centre and they are fighting against love jhiad in their assembly elections!!.

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rehna, Mangalore

Bajrang Dal Guys learn from Wilson a lesson. Love has got no Religion,
cast or creed. Wilson converted into Hindu. Why did you not stop this. Tell your Mutalik to learn from Wilson about love

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Jaya Shetty, karkala/dubai

I am hindu bunt.I am regular visitor of Attur church.For pray religion not required.

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vellano1, Mumbai

mukaleg marl maare!! trouble makers these Bhajarang Dal!! what they achieved, by saving one number or adding one in Hindu population? his family will still practice faith.. and after some days, when he gets bored, she will have to start going to church anyways! see, there is still no approval from her family anyways!

why does BD take as if its savior of masses? educate the girls even before they fall in love..tell them problems associated with inter-religious marriages.. prevention is better than cure! but once if they decide to move on... just let them live their life!

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Suresh, Mangalore

This is "LOVE ZIHAD" Bhajrangi style. Or shall we call it "Prema Zihad" . No it should sound more desi like "Amulya Prema" since it is under the patronage of BD. You can rob,rape and murder under the blessings of BD then it is acceptable. If not then you are anti-national.
Please remember Mahatma Gandhi's words- "For some time Dictators and murders look invincible. But it is all short lived. They will fall. One day surely they will fall"

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veera pinto, mangalore

Diplomatic wilson. Gud luck buddy..u got a beautiful girl lucky man. Enjoy the life..and changing rakesh just to escape from these bull..s. we all know. Who cares u smart but let the children d souza....for more fun.

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G Z T Kunte, Udupi

Is this reverse Love Jihad OR Love Jai ho ?

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Indian, Mangalore

LOVE KE LIYE KUCH BHI !!!

ASK THE GIRL TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY (LOVE KA PROBLEM SOLVED)

STOP ALL THIS BD(SOCIETY KA PROBLEM ALSO SOLVED)

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abdulla, india

leave them alone..let them be happy..
looks like a nice couple.
help them..support them and respect them..
let them bring forth a nice generation with all moral values and help build a great society..community and a great nation of understanding.. respect.. we are all humans first...

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jenny, canada

The problem of BD was the conversion of their people to Christianity or Muslim now why are they forcibly converting vulnerable religion to Hinduism. These are hindu jihadist nothing different than isis. allow to follow their own religion and live together in love. for love has no religion.

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sam, mlore

Oh now Wilson sorry Rakesh can join RSS/BD and by default got a licence to chase cow...!!! Obe last, please clear which caste now he belong to...???

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Charles D'Mello, Pangala

As long as couple are happy, it does not matter which religion they belong to. Lets all stop interfering in their personal life.

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Ronald d, Udupi

Dear mahendra, why are you exhibiting small mind all the time resembling a fanatic.

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Vishal D Souza, Mangalore

Good decision by Wilson. He has taken a right decision at a time when there is too much expectations from Christian girls of hi-fi lifestyle & too many divorces, it's always better to find a Hindu girl & get converted to Hinduism. Nothing wrong in that. This should be an eye opener for Christian boys who struggle to find a girl in Christian community.

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R.Fernandes, Dubai

Bl##dy leave them alone. Let them live their life.
Religion is not going to feed them.

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S.S.D'Souza, Udupi

Mr. Valerian D'Souza, Udupi, I too have the same concern. The boy is a non vegetarian & the girl is from a strict vegetarian community. I just wish let there be no quarrels on food. Let them be compatible than being competitors. I just wish them a happy married life for the rest of their lives. God bless them.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai

Dear S.S. D'Souza, True!

Difference begins from food itself.
Veg lovers Vs. Non Veg lovers!

Pork lovers and Pork haters!

Loves to Drink specially for occasions.
But some loves to say we never drink!

Dress Choices!
Some loves to wear revealing and some have to cover completely!

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Shaikh Saheb, Udupi / doha

STOVE JIHAD

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Peter, Bangalore

In a same situation my friend was asked to convert to Hindu and in reply he told girl's father to convert him to Brahmin.
Chapter closed.

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STAN, DUBAI

We all are Hindu's and all are brothers there is no need to divide with religion. This is the statement given by our Ram sena chief,RSS chief... now what happened why the objection if the girl or Boy want to marry without changing their religion??????

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S.S.D'Souza, Udupi

Mr.Jay Rai, the monkey troop is funded to do so. They are spoiling the name of the God Hanuman. Hence forward call them MONKEY TROOP, which suits them best or else PEEPING TOMS.

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Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

JEEYEGA MAREGA, LEKIN SAALA LOVE K LIYE KUCH B KAREGA!

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Ashwin , Mangalore

Great job Wilson rakesh.. You've made all us Christians very proud.. Keep up the good work..

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Elias Cutinha, Arva / Nagaland

Unemployment Problem. Unemployed Youths are ready to take benefit in others personal life in front of public and media.

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jimmy noronha, bellore/Lucknow

It is going to be complicated as the children will face problem. The memory is as deep as love is, and if the daughter comes of marriageable age, poor child is bound to face trouble to say the least.

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Sudhakar Poojary, Kadeshivalya/Dubai

He is true lover. Wish you all the best for their future.

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mohammed ansar, byndoor

Hum karo to conversion

Tum karo to gharvapasi

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Cynthia, Moodbidri

Wilson must be converted, just to fool those uneducated rowdy bhajarangis, It is a forced conversion!! I'm pretty sure Wilson will still praying to Jesus Christ. bravo Wilson didn't desert your love and kill/tossed her into river...

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Rajesh, Mangalore

BD please practice what you preach!

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Dodanna, Mangalore

Hope and trust,rss sponsored ZEE channel will telecast this love jihad story.

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mohammed ashraf, ampar mudubage

As per my own think don't follow religion if anyone already fall in deep love(not by force).happy to seen the couple's. I don't like to see any couple's dead body in the river.enjoy the life.

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Peter, Bangalore

Mr Wilson converted to Hindu fine , But which caste now ?

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Peter, Bangalore

Caste is the profession in Hindus.
Not supposed to come by birth...
It is by choice of his profession..

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stan, dubai

Caste is the profession in Hindus.
Not supposed to come by birth...
It is by choice of his profession and say that's why I will not my name so that no one will come to know which caste/ religion I belongs to.

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prabhu, mangalore

dont worry about caste...there are loads of hindus without any caste

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Mohsin Ahmed abu dhabi, Moolur

we can call it thrishoola jihad.

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Ronald, Mangalore

I thought BD's main objective is preventing the conversion. Now i see they are only involved in conversion.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi / Mumbai

Bajrang Dal always loves to do and follow what they hate most in others.
They objected Catholics schools and accused that they preach Bible,
but seized all the opportunity of teaching Bhagwad Gita & Yoga

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Saleel, Kudla

LOVE LOVE JIHAD

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Mohammad Nazeer, Dammam Saudi Arabia

I Think Wilson his very Clever he just acted to made foolish for Bajranj dal Coming Sunday Wilson & Shobhini Both will be in church there is no history Man was converted to other religion for Love

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Brahamanda, Ujjere

So Wilson's lineage has gone a full circle. Hindu > Christian > Hindu ie , forefather > Wilson > Rakesh.

Jokes aside, I am not sure what the procedure is to become a Hindu. In my opinion, he simply stops his christian faith. But realistically why would he want to do it. I am sure he was and is comfortable with his christian faith and now becoming a Hindu, Muslim or Sikh, what is the purpose?. I strongly believe that BD should not interfere in these affairs. It should be the family and mostly the individuals who should be able to decide.

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Christopher DCunha, M'lore/AUH

Should we call this Hindu Love Jihad???

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P.Lobo, Mangalore/Kuwait

Not Hindu Love Jihad my friend, this is called BANGIS love jihad because 31% only with BANGIS.

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saffron conversion, mangalore

This is called as "saffron conversion"

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Wilson D'souza, Mulki Bus Stand/Mumbai

"Better to Think for Long Run.. before Act"..
Here is Mumbai many of I know.. Catholics girls are married to Marathi, Gujarati, Sindhi, Punjabi, even in Muslim community..because most of Non-Christian guys are well qualified , holding good position in the company that our girls thinking about.. which is very much true, BUT.. Non-catholic guys are thinking only X-point of view on Christian girl.. other wise nothing is compatible within them like Religion, Food,(Veg, Non-Veg) Place of worship, Culture, Traditions,Even Language Accent, Standard., even sometimes Qualification..etc..
Look at Japanese, Chinese, they never marry out of their community because of cultural issue, if they do.. it is 1 case in every 100 Million..

I personally know.. most of them divorced within 12 months with one kids within that short period.

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Anonymous , Mangalore

Conversion to Christianity is made a big thing! Conversion to Hinduism doesn't matter? This is a case of forceful conversion by BJ.. But no one to take action.. This is what happens during BJP rule..

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oswald lobo, mangalore

yes BD always complaining that Christians are converting other religious people but what happened now? This is an act of coercion.

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Dev, Mangalore

Nobody Can Enforce anyone to follow any religion unless it is their own choice.
The boy here was wiser to save unwanted trouble from third party goons.
Now will they force Saif, Sharukh & many more actors do the same?

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Guys, hold-on...

This is known as "Ghar Vapasi"
The groom Wilson's ancestors are Hindus, hence this is known as Ghar Vaapsi...

Those Muslims and Christians in India must acknowledge that their ancestors were Hindus. What is wrong in it? Why to feel shae in it?
By the way, I have no hesitation in saying so...

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Jacob Mendonsa, Bangalore

RSRB/Kundapura/Singapore

Who told U that all Muslims in India were converted from Hindus. Read history books of Early Civilization to know from where Muslims rulers came to India, before commenting.

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Joseph D' Souza, Mangalore

Mr. RSRB
What you are talking is absolute bull%$it.....Who was your ancestor? If you believe in the theory of evolution, then monkey is your ancestor. So please go back there...

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

Joseph D' Souza, Mangalore

Be practical...
No need to go too beyond at once.
First let us go back 1000 years before....
Then enjoy sometime as Hindus...
If you like, continue...
Otherwise, free to go back till you want to climb a tree....:-):-)

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Pereira Robert, mangalore

@RSRB,
you have no hesitation by saying so, that's true. By the way u have hesitation in writing your name. Which religion you are belong to?
Don't fool the public by hiding your real name?

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sam, world

According to the theory of evolution, at one point man descended from apes i.e. our ancestors were apes. Thus by your Ghar Vapasi logic, we should go and inhabit with apes and mate with them.

How does that sound Mr. RSRB?

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P.Lobo, Mangalore/Kuwait

Mr. Sam not we BUT only RSRB, because he want the "Ghar Vapasi".

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S.S.D'Souza, Udupi

RSBS, religions apart, scientific studies of human DNAs show that mankind is originated somewhere in the North Western Africa. Now, I want to know, if you were ready to accept the fact that you are of African origin, so does the entire mankind?

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stan, dubai

Ghar vapasi means Some one from Kundapur staying in Singapore coming back to Kundapur. This is not Ghar vapasi

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S.M. Nawaz kukkikatte, Dubai

RSRB you proved that your beloved BD religion doing forcibly ghar wapasi and playing with innocents married couple with "threaten treat" shame on you.

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RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

S.M. Nawaz kukkikatte, Dubai

If interested, BD welcomes you too, as Mr. Uththam Raj Kukkikatte..!!!!

Just kidding....
I know you are not interested as of now..:-)

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Amith, Udupi

RSRB

You should be shoved back into the same place where you came from

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a s , mangalore

BD have no right to interfere. boy should not have converted

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moshu, Mangalore

Love jehad... all the best

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Achhu, Mlore

This is short term, just to escape from Bajarang Dal.

Remember my say.

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FRANCIS, PANGALA

THERE IS A OPTION TO PRACTICE RELIGION AS INDIVIDUAL LIKES. EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE. BOTH CAN PRACTICE DIFFERENT RELIGION, IT IS ONCE OWN RIGHT

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Prakash, Mangalore

It was said Money is the root of all evil....I'd say it was Religion!
Dark are the days when the law starts being dictated by a bunch of religiously perverted Thugs.

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Achhu, Mlore

Please ask Mr. Muthalik's opinion about this.

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Chandra, Mangaluru

Mr. Muthalik should have been the Chief Guest!!!

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Benjamin, Mangalore/USA

"Pyar kiya tho darna kya".. lekin looks like love couple get scared of some bad people in society

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Anita, Udupi/USA

We Christians are only showoffs & we have no unity in our community. Does Bajrangi's have the guts to convert any Muslim boy?

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wil, Canada

u r right..we just talk talk...blahhhh blahhhh...no courage do anything...

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oswald pereira, bendore

Pyar Kiya lekin dhar gaya BD se bechara.

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robert dsouza, kallamundkur

christain never become hindu,may be followed,but in his heart he never betray christ.

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JOSSY DSOUZA/Mercarahills, Mangalore

WOW! Really a great move.Thanks BD for the support.I am happy for this couple.After all we all Hindustanis and Hindutwa is the core religion of our country.I want to thank Mr Jagadish Seneva(My school mate) and Leaders of BD for helping this couple.I welcome this move with open heart.Jai ho

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Ronald, Mangalore

There is no doubt both loved each other. She lived with him in his house and did not budge to the pressure of her parents. Similarly he is also ready to do anything for her. Does not matter he got converted or she got converted. As long as both live peacefully in love then it is fine. Good to see that there was no pressure or what so ever by boy's parents to the boy.

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Wilson, Kinnigoli

ppl who always bark about forcible conversion without any base r openly doing forcible conversion. what a foolishness. I liked wilson's act of not insisting shobini to get convert to Christianity even after their wedding in May. thats what called his respect on her faith. n they were happy with their life. but these bajarangis have no other work than poking their nose in others personal life. eventhough wilson also acted foolish by converting. when he can accept d gal in her own religion, gal should also accept him in his religion. n they shud hav complaint against these bajarangis instead of converting.

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Well Prakash, Bangalore

BD forcibly converted the Christian boy into Hinduism. Ache din aye hai...hahaha....

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sam, world

Persecution of Christians is not new and has been prophesied in the Bible. Christ himself went to the cross and the apostles and subsequent followers all had to face death for their belief in Jesus. But in Jesus we are saved and have the promise of eternal life. See Romans 8:35-39 "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written: 'For your sake we face death all day long we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.' No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

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Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

The Girl looks awe some
The Boy looks dread some
No wonder all this sarco some ...

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Vincent Rodrigues, katapadi/Bangalore

This may be a beginning and many may follow with the active motivation of RSS/BJP.

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Ravi, Kavoor

This is utter bull%$it... how can these BD activists force anyone to convert? These r the people who r ready to attack when people get converted to either christianity or muslim religion. And now no one to speak against them?????. They should be questioned????

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HENRY MISQUITH, BAHRAIN

Love and live ..not love and die .. Love is not just a matter of 2 days , it is a life long process and if you do not choose correct partner at correct time , then rest of your life will be wrong. Congrats to u both....

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V Pereira, Udyavara, DK

No comments regarding the "conversion" part but certainly happy for the young couple. May God bless them.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi / Mumbai

This kind of marriages are not uncommon.
That's why Love is called blind.
But to be frank,I prefer and advice, our children to marry within the community.
Inter-cast couple usually face difficulty during children's upbringing.
Discords, not necessarily crop up due to inter-cast marriages, if nature is not compatibility then discord takes place.
Anyway wish happy married life to newly wedded couple.
Their successful life is more important than our caste concerns.

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MYB, Mangalore

Soft victim..

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For Justice, Abu Dhabi / Ubar

It proves only he loves her heartily but the conversion is absolutely forcible as he is unable to leave her which the BD got miss use of it.Fekugiri rocks again...

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RODRIGUES, UDUPI

Congrats....Wilson and shobhini....
I don't know why BD creates problems for new generations . thats why the software companies never investing in Mangalore

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sandeep , UAE

Best of luck couples, Rakesh (Groom) shave your substandard beard, be gentle man not jungle man. Keep your wife happy life long.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

I quote from the daijiworld media network news:

Meanwhile, activists of Bajrang Dal who too had arrived at the court premises allegedly warned the girl and the boy against conversion to Christianity, and urged the boy to convert to Hinduism. Unquote.
IT IS A REAL THREATENED CONVERSION STORY AND IT IS HIS STORY.


Hindus have done conversion.
Muslims have done conversion.
Buddhists have done conversion
Christians have done conversion.
History is evidence to this effect.

When bjp functions in the state or in the central we can see this kind of blah, blah, blah….
I recall the same tricks the RSS and VHP have done in UP, Meerat a few days before. Christians were threatened to convert to Hinduism.

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OLIVER, Brahmavar-Udupi

Utterly sad.!!!

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Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

Wish you happy married life Rakesh and Shobhini, good to see being Hindu couple to avoid confusions and Jain couples are convinced by Rakesh to continue in his accepted faith(Hindu) now, keep his promises to their daughter..jai hind

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Manglaore

Hindu man in christian name is Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

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Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

Thum Kare Tho Chamatkar
Hum Kare to Bhalatkar ...

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Pramod Suvarna, Derebail / Mangalore

sir , we salute you

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Naveen D'souza, Mangalore - Kuwait

WISH YOU A HAPPY MARRIED LIFE.

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Farooq, mangalore

Wilson...you shouldn't have converted...

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habibulla, Mangalore

Love jihad???.happy married life rakesh and shobini :-)

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S.M.ASHFAK, doha/udupi

This type of action is called Hindutva Prema SaGgharSa !!!

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Shaikh Saheb, Udupi / doha

What if it was other way around.

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Jacintha, Mangalore

Shaik saheb,
It would be called love jihad or forcible conversion.

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vivian, mangalore/Dubai

wer the people who wer talkin about lov jihad now.

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RDS, Mangalore

Is this love jihad by Bajrang dal?

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sandeep, dubai

Now,No anti conversation law for Bd ?

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Krishna, Malpe

'Ye baat kuch hajam nahin hue' marriage is OK, but why conversion? Forcible conversion does not last long. anyway God Bless the couple.

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Sundari Ashoknagar, Mangalore

Ini jaathi budpe yelle appen budpe ellanji bodedin budpe. Yaan erenla nambuji.Meese bannaga desa thojuji panondither enna ajji.

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HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

Congrats Rakesh Wilson, without love we are birds with broken wings.....stay happy with Shobhini.
Love Aaj kal,Love in tension, Love Express, Love mein Ghum, Love birds,Love possible, Love u crazy girl,Love kichdi, Love u Hamesha, Life ki toh lag gayi.... Love ka the END....Laaga chunari mein Daag!!

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Ahmed, DUBAI/MANGALORE

This is a perfect example of Love-Jihad. Well done Bajrang Dal

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Peter, Udupi

No comments....Constitutional rights

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Vishal Gopal, Mangalore

Whose Constitutional right? of BD to force conversion?

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Roshan P D'Mello, M'lore

You love being married & will soon be annoyed for the rest of your life.

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shaan, mangalore

LOVE JEHAD

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Stevan, Udupi

Wishing you both a Happy married life.

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M.Sadiq Mulky, Mangalore /Al Jubail

When they got married and had no problem, because their religion was love.Now what BD guys did was LOVE JIHAD OR STOVE JIHAD!!

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ashok shetty, shirva

What is the title for this conversion???

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For Justice, Abu Dhabi / Ubar

So finally Bhajarangis succeeded in forcible conversion of Rakesh from Wilson...Great achievement/Achhe din...

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Alwyn, mlore

congrats to the couple !!
someone had to take the extreme step to save their love life and secret marriage..
in this case the boy dared to do it..
i hope the bajrangis don't follow them anymore and let them live in peace..

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Dominic Duming, Mangalore

Matches are made in Heaven and in Haven there are no religions.

In future if any Hindu girl coverts to Christianity, let BD say as I said, "Matches are made in Heaven Haven there are no religions".

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S.M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, Dubai

I must to say it is "forcibly conversation" by BD. they allegedly warned the girl and wilson their married life, actually wilson didn't want to convert but he worried and than convert

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khan, mangalore

Made for each other..made both the families live happily..

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jp, dubai

this is not a big issue, love is blind. and now in this century it will happen like this only. good atleast they got married. god bless you both

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harish, dubai

Be happy bajarangi

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Avinash, Ksd/Bluru

Good chance for secularists to blast Hindu groups!!

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George Monteiro, Nagpur

This is Ridiculous. Strong ANTI CONVERSION LAW is NEEDED

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Francis, Moodbidri/Dubai

Ek kumkum ka naam buss HINDU ban gaya !!

See the difference in converting people into other religion!!! in one day be became HINDU!!!,

Whereas if other religions person want to convert in to Christian its takes several years!!!

Clear double standard from BD, they can convert people in to their religion not to others, hypocrites !!!

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jerry, mangalore

Life is not so easy as dreamed.
too young to get marry..

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jay rai, mangalore / dubai

these bajrang dal. Are the posy stupid people alive on planet earth. boy loves girl n girl loves the boy. There only one god. People have given names. and bajrang dal acts funny. They dont let people eat beef. But beef is the first thing these morons want when they are at a bar drinking. funny stupid idiotic guys.

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Ashley, Mangalore

Does the act of threatening and then getting them married in Hindu tradition by the Bajrang Dal not amount to Forced conversion? Would it not be surprising that the girl was not asked by the boy to convert from Jainism and this impacts Hinduism? guys wakeup
Why are we stuck on the same crap yet?

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fiza, dubai

love ke liye sala kuch be karega ...good job guys

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WASIM, UDUPI/DUBAI

TRISHULLLLLLLL JIHAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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rash, Dubai, Kundapur

This is which love jihad?

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K, Mlore/ Portugal

Why has the BD interfere in everyone lives? They were living happily so what's the issue ... The older gens have to learn to adapt to the younger gen. He had not asked the girl to convert .. People are so Hippocratic. Grow up people .. Live in peace and let other live their life in peace too.

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KGSHENOY, Mangalore

Good luck to you both and God bless.

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Thousif, Mangalore\Riyadh

This is love jihad. Now 100% sure that BD are behind in the love jihad.BD came to court premises and warned boy to convert Hinduism. where is law now

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Peter, Bangalore

Wilson ne BD ko ullu banaya !!

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JOHN R LOBO, Kaikamba/Dubai

21 and 18...Love is blind.....But marriage is EYE OPENER.

Do they know responsibility of marriage...?????
To them everything is green....Soon they realised.....!!!!!!

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Ivan, Mangalore

What a non-sense by bajrang dal activists????? Now they forcefully converted to Hinduism then what we call this act…

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masif, Manglore

Good Idea Mr.Wilson
Just change the name for marriage that time u not get trouble from any organization

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sid, mangalore

i guess every one should leave them alone now !

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RIYAZ, GANGOLLI

wahh...this is not love jihad...?

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Sadi, Mangalore

Love crusade or Love Trishool or Love Jihad????

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Preetham , DXB

Wish you happy married life

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steven, dubai

Religion should not ruin someone's love but true love should seen by others that's the union of the marriage. All the best.

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Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

Pics: Everyone is in doubt,confusion,uncertainty except Newly Married Couple..Happy Married Life..

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ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

TRISHUL -JIHAD started!!!!Now Shobini is an Jain and her husband is Christian but BD turned table and converted to FORCED HINDUISM!!!BD should be booked for the atrocities against newly wed couple but SANGHIS must say otherwise!!!

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Amith, udupi

Now What Cheddis have to say about Love Jihad ??

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