Mangalore: Allegations against Archbishop - Raphael Raj taken into custody


Mangalore: Raphael Raj released; apologizes for statement against Archbishop

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Daijiworld Media Network - Mangalore (DV)

Update: June 4

Mangalore, Jun 4: Raphael Raj, chief secretary of Akhila Karnataka Catholic Christara Kannada Sangha, who was taken into custody on Tuesday June 3 on charges of levelling allegations against Bangalore Archbishop Dr Bernard Moras, was released at around midnight.

Raphael was taken into custody by the Bunder police based on a complaint, after he accused the Archbishop of being 'involved' in the murder case of Fr K J Thomas, rector of St Peter's Pontifical Seminary. Speaking at a press meet in the city, Raphael had demanded CBI probe into the case.

The police said that Raphael was released as holding a press meet was not sufficient grounds for arrest, and that it was a non-cognizable offence, hence no FIR was filed.

Speaking to daijiworld, Stany Alvares, president of Konkani Prachar Sanchalan, said that as per law, Raphael could only be questioned and not produced in court. "We will file a defamation suit against Raphael," he said.

He further said that the protest on Tuesday night was withdrawn as Raphael tendered an apology in writing, in which he admitted that he had levelled the allegations against the Archbishop without any proof.

 

Earlier Update: June 3

Mangalore: Allegations against Archbishop - Raphael Raj taken into custody

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Daijiworld Media Network - Mangalore (DV)

Mangalore, Jun 3: Raphael Raj, chief secretary of Akhila Karnataka Catholic Christara Kannada Sangha was taken into custody here on Tuesday June 3, shortly after he made allegations against Bangalore Archbishop Dr Bernard Moras in connection with the murder of Fr K J Thomas, rector of St Peter's Pontifical Seminary, and demanded CBI probe into the case.

Raphael Raj was taken into custody by the Bunder police after a complaint was filed by Christian Konkani leaders in the city, including Konkani Prachar Sanchalan president Stany Alvares and Konkani Sahitya Academy president Roy Castelino.

In a statement, Roy Castelino said, "The police who have efficiently investigated the murder of Fr K J Thomas recently arrested three accused, and are taking futher action according to law. In the midst of this, with a vicious motive to spark enmity between people over language issue and to mislead the investigation, Raphael Raj from Bangalore levelled baseless accusations against Archbishop Dr Bernard Moras that he was involved in the murder.

"The allegations are completely false and have hurt the sentiments of the entire Christian community of Karnataka. Immediate action has to be taken against Raphael Raj for making such irresponsible statements and against those instigating him from behind the scenes," he said.

Speaking to daijiworld, Stany Alvares said, "Raphael Raj is from Bangalore, but today he called a press meet in Mangalore and without any proof, levelled accusations against the Archbishop. Police have already arrested the accused persons in the case and investigation is on.

"He could have held the press meet in Bangalore. Mangalore is a sensitive place. There are many Christians here who speak different languages, but all of them live in harmony. The entire Christian community is hurt by the allegations. We will also file a defamation case against him," he added.

However, it was learnt that the police, after questioning Raphael, decided not to arrest him. Following this, a crowd gathered at the police station and began a flash protest demanding his arrest. The protestors shouted slogans against Raphael and strongly condemned his statements.

Higher police officials arrived at the spot, and after holding discussions , the protest was called off. Raphael is still in custody and being questioned.

 

 

Earlier Report

Mangalore: Catholic Kannada Sangha demands CBI probe into Fr K J Thomas case

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Daijiworld Media Network - Mangalore (BG)

Mangalore, Jun 3: The Akhila Karnataka Catholic Christara Kannada Sangha, Bangalore, on Tuesday June 3 demanded CBI inquiry into the murder of Fr K J Thomas, rector of St Peter's Pontifical Seminar, Bangalore. The association also demanded that Archbishop of Bangalore be taken into custody for investigation.

Fr K J Thomas was murdered in the seminary on the night of March 31, 2013. Almost a year later, three persons, including two priests, were arrested in connection to the case in March this year.

Addressing a press meet here, Raphael Raj, chief secretary of the association, said, "The murder case of Fr K J Thomas must be handed over to CBI. The priests who have been arrested are innocent and must be immediately released, and Bangalore Archbishop Dr Bernard Moras, Bangalore Cathedral Church's Fr Antony Swamy and Bangalore diocese estate committee president Ronald D’Souza must be taken into custody for investigation. We have also urged chief minister Siddaramaiah to take action in this regard."

He further said, "After investigations, it is clear that this was a murder done for property, and also it is clear that Dr Bernard Moras was involved. Soon after the murder, the Bangalore CCB took up the investigation and about 4 to 5 months back, the CM had urged the police to speed up the investigation and complete it within the next 3 months.

"There are lots of facts which have not been investigated, like Fr K J Thomas who was in charge of St Peter's Seminary was getting a low stipend for maintaining the seminary, taking care of food expenses for the students, electricity bill and other expenses of the seminary," he added.

"Fr K J Thomas had approached the Archbishop regarding tenancy for a portion of property belonging to St Peter's Seminary, so as to generate funds for the upkeeping of the institution. The Archbishop had asked Fr K J Thomas to meet Ronald D’Souza who is advisor to the estate committee for help.

"The emails of Bishop of Bangalore and the consortium of Bishops for the seminary have not been probed. Land survey has not been done to establish the encroachment that has taken place after his murder, and this angle also has not been investigated," he added.

"After a week of the demise of K J Thomas a lot financial transactions have taken place within the St Peter's Seminary premises which also have to be investigated. The personal accounts of various office-bearers belonging to St Peter's Seminary have not been investigated. The personal accounts of Archbishop Dr Benard Moras, Ronald D’Souza and other members of the estate committee have not been investigated either," he said.

"Hence the case must be handed over to the CBI and thorough investigation has to be carried out," he reiterated.

 

 

  

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  • Ajith Frank, Bangalore

    Mon, Jun 30 2014

    C. D'Souza,
    Who are you... I'm Ajith Frank from Bangalore.... What does C stand for in your name ?? You too are hiding your identity and what are you preaching to me ??? Now since I have disclosed my identity, do you know me ??? I'm sure not, so what's the point in revealing it to a senseless fellow like you....
    Here the issue is of allowing or not allowing a fanatic coward from Bangalore, who does not have the guts to hold a press conference in Bangalore ( the place where he lives and claims to have many followers) who chooses Mangalore to do what he wants, and why and how he was allowed to do so...When this is the real issue, you are bothered about my initials....

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  • AF, Bangalore

    Mon, Jun 09 2014

    Mr. Prabhu,
    The very fact that Raphael Raj, though he belongs to Bangalore, has chosen to hold this press meet at Mangalore answers your question about boasting you were talking about.... I still maintain that I challenge that Rapheal Raj will have no guts to hold a press meet at Bangalore.... Bangalore Archdiocese is 10 times larger than Mangalore diocese and still we have curbed all the problems caused by fanatics... It is You people who are a majority in M'lore diocese who could not stop him though you are so many people in Mangalore who boast a lot of big things.... First you remove the speck in your eye, before peeping into the log in your neighbor's eye....

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  • C. D'Souza., Mangalore/Kuloor

    Sun, Jun 08 2014

    Who are alvares and Castelino Mr AF. You are hiding your identity by using acronym. Do u think Mangalore belongs to Alvares or Castelino who openly say they arm-twist everyone including the new MLA. Your remarks smack of regionalism and religious fanaticism. Dont hide behind your initials.

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  • Mangalorian, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 05 2014

    Rules are equal for common people or religious leader. So I don't see any problem for requesting C B I enquiry, ps let it go for...

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  • AF, Bangalore

    Thu, Jun 05 2014

    I actually question the likes of Mr. Alvares and Mr. Catelino as to how they even allowed Rapahel Raj - A Telugu speaking fanatic having the backing of some Telugu priests, to hold a press conference in Mangalore. We, in Bangalore though we are a minority dare Raphael to hold a press conference here. He does not have the guys or the moral rights to do so, hence he had gone to Mangalore... What surprises me is that our friends in Mangalore could not resist this small time fanatic !!! Why ???

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  • PRABHU, Mlore

    Thu, Jun 05 2014

    A.F.BANGALORE.....
    YOU ARE QUESTIONING OUR ROY AND ALVERES FOR HAVING GIVEN PERMISSION TO R.RAJ TO HOLD A PRESS MEET.
    DO YOU KNOW NO ONE CAN STOP ANYONE GIVING A PRESS MEET.
    OBJECTIONABLE IS THE MATTER AT THE MEET NOT THE MEET.
    Roy & Alvares objected to the matter.
    IF YOU BOAST SO MUCH PLEASE STOP THE various attacks in Bangalore.

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  • yogi, ashoknagar

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    In democratic india everybody has got fundamental right to express his views. Nobody will above the country or the law of this country. Government will intervene into this and true should come out.

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  • Martin Gonsolves, Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Everybody has the right to express their opinions through press meet or wherever. If he is demanding for a cbi inquiry let it happen. Why most of the heads are not agreeing for cbi ? is a million dollar question.

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  • Anil, Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Here, we want accused to be punished, we want to know who is the culprit. Enough is enough, this people will give new color to this incident as "Language" forgetting we are all the children's of God.

    Let us pray for this people and ask bishop Bernard Moris with his influence talk to higher officials and hand it over this case to CBI. Not only India whole world is watching this drama. So we can not allow our nation name to be spoiled. So people pls request Archbishop or higher authorities to handover this case to CBI , lets truth come out.

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  • Sundari Ashoknagar, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Undu wah pagetha puge? Kannada Konkani pandid Raphael Raj Tamilian lekka thojuver.Athe Bhandaarkar mamu.

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  • Langoolacharya., Belman/Washington,DC.

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    People,

    God understands all languages English, Konkani, Kannada etc etc.... Why these low life's fight for language shows their stupidity and moral bankruptcy.... Most of these people have nothing else to do ... So engage in these stupidity....if they don't have anything worthwhile to do... Join politics...

    Jai Hoooooo

    ...JH...

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Excellent, very sensible comment Mr.Langoolacharya, Belman/ Washington
    Love is kind, it unites, whereas Hate divides, so sad.
    Knowledge pooled together becomes encyclopedia.
    That is the beauty of this forum.
    Hope our people, who are real treasure understand and benefit from this forum.

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  • PRABHU, Mlore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    This whole episode is just to spa rouse the feelings of language in the state specially mangalore.
    Complaint arrest release apology all a farce.
    There is no terrain for protest.
    Delhi rape case had protest all over.
    On what grounds was a case filed ,
    if wrong Roy ,Alvarez will be questioned .
    Now wait for the opposition won't take time ...see.

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  • Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    If Officials are unable to track him under FIR, there was no need for him to be arrested. It clearly shows that they had acted under influence of some unseen hands. Though making allegations against other without sufficient grounds is unacceptable & wrong, it is also wrong to arrest one for just making a Press Conference.
    Best is to give up this case to CBI or CID, and insist for a thorough investigation.

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  • Indian, Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    This Raphael Raj is a rowdy.. Any action from him will be treated under goonda act...this is passed on him when he create havoc in one of the church in bangalore. Do not believe him...Under Christ.. there is no Kannada and Konkany. We are belong to Karnataka..and Kannadigas..Please ask Raphael what language he speaks at home... We Konkani's write in Kannada, studied in Kannada...speak Kannada...

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    The worldly court is a Human court. Any Judge will see the evidence in one eye or in both the eyes. Suppose the evidence is found the case will withstand, if eliminated Human Judge cannot convict a person.

    WE HAVE THE JUDGE WHO IS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.

    NOBODY WILL ESCAPE FROM THE COURT OF JESUS.

    I quote Exodus:20:13 THOU SHALT NOT KILL Unquote.

    It is the fundamental commandment.

    Matthew 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    How many times the word of God was proved Right since Jesus gave us the truth of the Gospel:

    Matthew 5:25-26
    25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

    26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

    TODAY RAPHAEL RAJ CAME OUT FROM THE CUSTODY BY APOLOGIZING.

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  • Joe Gonsalves, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    As I see Sri Raphael Raj has tendered an apology and I have no hesitation in saying that nothing should held against Mr. Raj any more. If he has made a mistake in making any statements - the statements stand withdrawn on account of the apology.

    The matter is being handled efficiently by the crime branch in Bangalore and therefore no one has any right to level charges against Archbishop Bernard Moras. Once the investigations are over the charge sheet will go to Court and we must then respect The Court verdict.

    Joe Gonsalves

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Today or tomorrow truth will come out....

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Surely, truth will come out and it SHOULD.
    No matter, whoever he is. Wrong doer will be punished. Our people have faith in the law, let the law take its own course.
    However till then let people not give loose talk or politicize the matter.

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Here the issue is killing of very senior church Priest by insider and suspicion is on other priests with in seminary.There may lot of untold/unseen things in the heinous act of killing.No body is above law.Case should be handed over to CBI to dig out the truth.

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  • Vikram , Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    The murder happened during the BJP Government rule in Karnataka. They did not hand over the case to CBI. They also slow tracked the investigation. Since you are asking for CBI investigation now, I thought it would be pertinent to know

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Let CBI handle this case....

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  • Disha Rita, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014


    Baseless allegations by Raphael Raj against Archbishop Bernard Moras. R.Raj himself looks like Murderer. God Bless Stany, Roy sir and all who raised their voice for justice.

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  • Rohan, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Utaale re bagwaan... Utaalay
    Humko nahi... language ko utaalay
    Below verses for ignorant Christians

    Genesis 11
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    THE TOWER OF BABEL

    1 Now the whole earth had one language and one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. 3 Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar. 4 And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”

    5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. 6 And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. 7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. 9 Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth.

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  • MANU, Udupi

    Wed, Jun 04 2014


    Nice police station building.

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  • George Victor , Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    The Fight is between the Good and Evil. There is no question of language coming in between. If language is our master then we cannot accept Jesus is our master, because we cannot serve two masters.The Evil one has to expand its kingdom, because Evil has no body it uses the body of Kannada Balaga Priests body though they are in charge of Body of Christ which is the shame. The people who has faith should not be distracted. The amount of energy, the amount of money, the amount of time they wasting for the Kingdom of Devil had they invested on the Kingdom of God the heaven was sure. It very important to know who you are in Jesus Christ? where you born, where you bought up it does not matter what matter is Obedience to authorities. After long years we have The Bishop who is man of God. Who has vision, and he does as per the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. All priests are one family of the diocese. If you have problem in your family will you solve within your self or go to roads and media? the self realization has to come.

    Perhaps The Bishop Barnard Moras may be praying silently ' Father Forgive them they do not know what they are doing' Perhaps We Catholics could pray in similar tune, but the Murder is criminal offense,hence all are equal before the law. My personal appeal to all Catholics is this' Do not base your faith based on the how these priest behave, because we have only one High Priest that is Jesus' Hence encounter the Lord Jesus we will be saved. It is better to ignore the Evil one, the moment we give importance to it he will come and put wheel chair on our head and control us. Let us put all the faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Many Sheep will come within we could understand the word of God and correlate it. We will live for the Christ, our faith is based on Christ Teaching. not the teaching of the people. World will speak in different language, ' The Word' will speak different Language that is heavenly language. Let us not miss this which gives fruit.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Putturc / Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    God gives us the Light, water and air to the Just and to the Unjust.

    I quote Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Unquote.

    Dear Christians,
    Shun all kinds of allegations, accusations and jealousies among each other.
    May the Peace, love and tranquility from the Prince of Peace Jesus Christ be with you all and bless you abundantly. Amen.
    John 8: 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Putturc / Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    I sincerely, kindly and humbly urge the followers of Jesus Christ to love the Word as Jesus himself is the word of God. He was in full of wisdom and knowledge.

    John 14:14 If you ask me for anything in my name I will do it.

    Ask with Jesus and He will guide you, protect you and forgive you from your sins only if repented whole heartily.

    Language is a tool for mutual understanding and not a tool for conspiracies within. Pray in your mother tongue. Jesus knows all languages.

    There are prayer houses and mass services in separate, separate languages at separate, separate timings. The faithful can attend such prayer halls and mass services in the prescribed timings.

    God is Almighty and not limited to any one particular time, space and language. Jesus was in heaven prior to His birth to this planet earth in human form.

    There are few evil possessed humans in the society trying to divide ourselves. The work of the evil is to divide, to steel and to kill. We have to kill all such evil within our own hearts.

    Does anybody hear Christians praying exclusively in one language while performing worships?!

    I know Konkani, Tulu, Kannada, English and little-mittle Tamil, Malayalam, Marathi and Arabic.

    ALL LANGUAGES ARE GOOD IN ITS ESSENCE, VOCABULARY, GOODNESS AND IN ITS SWEETNESS WHICH IS EVIDENT ONLY WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL CONVERSE IN SUCH LANGUAGES. THERE IS NO ANY SUCH BAD LANGUAGE EXISTS.

    We have to shun all the differences and should utilize the language of love to Humans in the society.

    Don’t fall into the clutches of the vile’s of language lover’s preys.
    Try your best to learn as much languages as possible you can in this Multi-Lingual society which is ultimately beneficial to yourself.

    The Christian language is a language of Love.

    Jesus said:
    I quote Matthew 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? Unquote.
    continued...

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  • Rudy D souza & Family, Kuwait, Omzoor/ Kuwait

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Those who put allegations against Archbishop should have proof of allegations and if blind speaks without any documents should be put behind the bars. Appreciate Mr. Stany Alvares & Mr. Roy Castelino who come forward to stop the nuisance in Mangalore.

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  • Kodialda muthu, mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    What problem do you have with Raphael Raj? allow him to speak. Why are you all afraid of CBI probe? I feel he has not done anything wrong that deserves his arrest.

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  • PRABHU, Mlore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Muthu you don't deserve a Muttu for that.
    Anyone is free to speak But Not Accuse anyone by spoiling his name.
    If he has evidence let him produce it to the police or court.
    Archbishop is in place of the Pope in the state, No Catholic should tolerate Anyone speaking against him.
    No Muttu ?
    .

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Discrimination on the basis of mother tongue/local language is the worst among fanaticisms.We have seen communal fanaticism,caste fanaticism but here language fanaticism among catholics who believe in Jesus Christ whose followers are peace lovers.We have a academy sponsored by the state govt now in place with catholic as its President who is also active in the mess.My worst fear becoming true that this KKA is now made as Karnataka Christian Konkani Academy!
    Earlier KKA top functionary was actively worked for Congress party lending open support to Poojary during election.Now this language discrimination mania.....
    Hats off Roy Castelino sir.....

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  • clvie, Kuwait

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    This man is trying to divide and rule. He wants support for His language based organization which is not having any religious agenda. Here he is trying his best to help the killers and to mislead police.

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    This man has no right to put false allegations against Archbishop.

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    I think he has got the 'importance' he was after. Such matters have to be dealt with cleverly, without rush of blood.
    Some people have nuisance value....

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  • Sonia, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    My sincere request, this man should not be released from custody at all. let him propagate inside the custody. as he has caused a lot of harm to the priests and the faithful in Bangalore and now he has come to Mangalore to create problems. Looks like he is losing ground in Bangalore and wants to take control of Christians in Mangalore. Let him know, Mangalore is not like Bangalore, in Mlore, people are very united and as catholics, we all live in harmony and do not get into any language issues. looks like Raphael and his men are going to take the language issue to the grave... who is he to stop a person from hearing the mass & reading the word of God in any language..

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  • jeetendra hegde, mumbai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    What about freedom of speech now?.one can accuse anyone in democracy, It doesn't mean Archbishop is guilty. If this is the way of reaction, then there would've been lot people in jail for accusing MODI'ji of all sorts.

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Yes, you are right about criticism and freedom of speech.
    But character assassination or serious accusation? he is not a politician!
    Political accusations were there, not only for Modi but also for MMS, Sonia Gandhi and Rahul also!

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  • Donald Roche, Mangalore/Bolar

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    As per Times of India Bangalore dated April 11,2014...In the first reaction to allegations of his intervention in the probe of the murder of rector Fr. K J Thomas, Archbishop Bernard Moras on Thursday(April 10th) said he'd rather suffer than take revenge. In his letter he wrote..." May the lord judge those who accuse me falsely and ......and mislead the innocent faithful and the general public." ...." I want the truth to come out in the interest of the church, the Seminary and the Archdiocese. Let the truth prevail and set us free."
    Here I find (by seeing Photographs of R.Raj) Raphael Raj' is adjusting his ears for hearing properly. That means he gets wrong information and he misleads people. Some miscreants teaches him to go against Archbishop of Bangalore.

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  • Naveen, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    R.Raj accuses Bishop about the seminary property. But he should know the canon law, Bishop is the final authority and head of the diocesan property.

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  • Vivs, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Where was this Raphael Raj so far?
    Why he didnt call any press meet in Bengalore? Why he came to Mangalore?
    Who is backing him and funding him?
    Mangalorean Catholics dont support Akhila Karnataka Chistara Sangha and Rapheal raj and his team..Raphael Raj should stop this type of false allegations.Mangalorean Catholics live peacefully and dont want anybody coming from outside and preaching.

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    kannada should be given its rights..

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Prabhu Mam,

    Mai Bass Konkani sodchive?
    Goa'th portughees aselle munn, konkani vuleithelya lokak vistaar konkani rajya jaonk naa mu?
    Chook konachi?
    Parihaar kithen?

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  • VOICE OF THE DESERT, BANGALORE

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    what is this majority or minority in Christianity.

    Christians are to be counted by hearts NOT BY heads.

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  • maxy, kinnigoly/mumbai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    wHat tamasha you all are seeing today is a result of `head count` & NOT BY `HEARTS COUNTS`.
    REALLY SPEAKING IF WE GO BY HEART COUNTS IN OUR CATHOLICS NOT JUST 2 GROUPS AS YOU MENTIONED THERE WILL BE SEVERAL SECTS/LEVELS IN CATHOLICS WHICH ARE OPENLY NOT ACKNOWLEDGED BY CHRISTIAN LEADERS, AND LEAD TO DALIT CONVERTED CATHOLICS TO LOOSE THEIR CASTE BENEFITS GIVEN BY GOVT. OF INDIA.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    ..Majority minority not accepted in Christianity..but religion wise (Hindu,Muslim,Christian)majority minority acceptable!!..i pity on people who complaints about ooch-neech in Hinduism but it is worse in other religion..But rarely highlighted..even people dont hesitate to blow up people of other sects..

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Scriptures quote, Brothers should learn to settle their disputes among themselves than going to court for justice.
    However murder and character assassination is serious crime.
    Declining moral values are reason for such tragedies.

    Shepherds should do their job seriously.
     

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  • juliet Mascarenhas, Bejai

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    How and why did he land in Mangalore when the case is going on in Bangalore.His supporters in Mangalore also should be taken into custody.

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  • juliana, udupi

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Why there cannot be an amicable solution to this problem? Is it necessary for each one to come under scrutiny for this unlawful deed of some land mafia as it appears?

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  • Rohan Pinto, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    These are just hand full of goondas in the name of Kannada Catholic sanghas fuelled by external fanatic Kannada elements They don’t have any morals or ethics in their life Since they are minority around Bangalore churches when compared to Tamils & Konkani Catholics, they create all sorts of evils in order to show their presence. These groupism should be banned from the Catholic Churches

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  • Joe Gonsalves, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    It is a matter of great regret that when the matter is being efficiently handled by the department of law and order, why should some one make allegations against Archbishop Bernard Moras who has nothing to do with the crime.

    As it is Archbishop Moras has sufficient number of problems and why should any one try to multiply them.

    Hope better discretion prevails in the minds of all concerned and that we leave the judgment in the hands of those who are to judge.

    Joe Gonsalves

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  • NS, Mlore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    If just a press conference allegation can cause arrests like this many people should have been inside by now.
    But wait... our Home Minister has direct interest in this case. Hmmmm...This is called Jungle Raj.

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  • George A. Borromeo, Angelore, Mangalore, India

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    A person has all right to call a Press conference. But if it creates a rift between inter or intra Communities, then it is not fair. We all heard there is a mistrust and enmity between Kannada speaking Catholics and Konkani speaking Catholics in Bangalore, why bring this up in Mangalore ??? The persons who are behind this episode should desist from fueling enmity amongst Catholic Christians.

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  • NS, Mlore

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Also from the other news from this portal...looks like the issue is not between Konkani & Kannada. It is Tamil, English & Malayalam. I don't think it makes any difference ...but still.

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  • Lancy David P. Cutinho, Mallikatte

    Wed, Jun 04 2014

    Local Konkani muscle power at first glance reflected as if worse than Kannada politics.

    Should not have arrested our Bangalore guest despite his narrow minded allegations. Who cares his bias attitude against our Archbishop ?

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Tue, Jun 03 2014

    Instead of wasting others time, please hire a lawyer to prove the innocence of three people in the custody.
    Every dog has a day...!!!
    It is better and easy to count my sins instead of others....

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  • Henry Sequeira, Kateel, USA

    Tue, Jun 03 2014

    The Akhila Karnataka Catholic Christara Kannada Sangha is now asking for CBI enquiry why? It is too late. They thought they would be able to cover up. Now they are caught with their hand in the Jar. Iit is a delaying tactic. This Sangha supports the activist’s priests. It is silent about the role of these Kannadiga priests and laity in the murder case of the rector in this press brief. Some of them are in custody now and reaping what they sow since many years in and around Bangaluru.

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  • maxy, kinnigoly/mumbai

    Tue, Jun 03 2014

    how backward a sect maybe(if people think so...?)you can fool all of them part of time& part of them all time but not all of them all the time.so, now time has come to provide them that authority of which they were deprived for so long.

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  • Prabhu, Mlore

    Tue, Jun 03 2014

    Looks like Raphael Raj has been trained by CBI,FBI, or GESTAPO
    HE SEEMS TO KNOW WHO MURDERED WHOM , WHEN , WHERE AND. HOW.
    Can ask Mody to rope him into Cabinet.

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